Abbey Wood to Folkestone via Stratford

[DynamicSpirit]

I'm looking up fares to get from Abbey Wood to Folkestone central, for which I would expect the most sensible route would be Elizabeth line to Stratford, then HS1 to Folkestone - but there appears to be no ticket available for that.

The tickets showing on Brfares.com (https://www.brfares.com/!expert?orig=ABW&dest=FKC&rlc=NEW&period=20260301) are grouped into three routes:
00130 NOT VALID ON HS1 - which I assume means, via London Bridge
00133 +HS NOT STRATFORD
00226 NOT LONDON/EBBSFLEET

What do those routes mean? My best guess is that 00133 means you can change at Gravesend then Ebbsfleet and HS2 from there. As for 00226 - the only route I can imagine that avoids London and Ebbsfleet would be to change at Rochester then Dover Priory - which would seem a very slow route. Are there really no tickets that allow you to make the journey via HS2 from London or Stratford?

Out of curiosity, I looked up Abbey Wood to Dover (https://www.brfares.com/!expert?orig=ABW&dest=DVP&rlc=NEW&period=20260301). Despite being a very similar journey, that seems to have a much more sensible set of tickets available:
00000 ANY PERMITTED - so this would be via St Pancras or Stratford
00130 NOT VALID ON HS1 - so the via London Bridge one
00226 NOT LONDON/EBBSFLEET - presumably, via Rochester, which makes a lot more sense for Dover.

 

[Man of Kent]

I'm looking up fares to get from Abbey Wood to Folkestone central, for which I would expect the most sensible route would be Elizabeth line to Stratford, then HS1 to Folkestone - but there appears to be no ticket available for that.

The tickets showing on Brfares.com (https://www.brfares.com/!expert?orig=ABW&dest=FKC&rlc=NEW&period=20260301) are grouped into three routes:
00130 NOT VALID ON HS1 - which I assume means, via London Bridge
00133 +HS NOT STRATFORD
00226 NOT LONDON/EBBSFLEET

What do those routes mean? My best guess is that 00133 means you can change at Gravesend then Ebbsfleet and HS2 from there. As for 00226 - the only route I can imagine that avoids London and Ebbsfleet would be to change at Rochester then Dover Priory - which would seem a very slow route. Are there really no tickets that allow you to make the journey via HS2 from London or Stratford?

Out of curiosity, I looked up Abbey Wood to Dover (https://www.brfares.com/!expert?orig=ABW&dest=DVP&rlc=NEW&period=20260301). Despite being a very similar journey, that seems to have a much more sensible set of tickets available:
00000 ANY PERMITTED - so this would be via St Pancras or Stratford
00130 NOT VALID ON HS1 - so the via London Bridge one
00226 NOT LONDON/EBBSFLEET - presumably, via Rochester, which makes a lot more sense for Dover.

National Rail Enquiries suggests using Contactless/Oyster between Abbey Wood-Stratford.
An alternative routing would be to change at Strood and Paddock Wood.

 

[Crithylum]

Changing for DLR at Custom House would be my recommendation. It also avoids the long trek from Stratford main to International.

 

[greaterangrier]

Given the change in NRCOT to state that Abbey Wood-Paddington must be treated like a tube line, try the U-Zone Priced fares, and buy the relevant zones you would need.

As these zones cover a large geographic area and could cater to destinations such as Wembley Central in Zone 4, they have been offered with routes PLUS HIGH SPEED and NOT VALID ON HS1.

Out of curiosity, I looked up Abbey Wood to Dover (https://www.brfares.com/!expert?orig=ABW&dest=DVP&rlc=NEW&period=20260301). Despite being a very similar journey, that seems to have a much more sensible set of tickets available:
00000 ANY PERMITTED - so this would be via St Pancras or Stratford
00130 NOT VALID ON HS1 - so the via London Bridge one
00226 NOT LONDON/EBBSFLEET - presumably, via Rochester, which makes a lot more sense for Dover.

Things have gone wrong. Abbey Wood to Dover is valid as follows:
✠ ANY PERMITTED: Dover - Canterbury - Faversham - Strood - Dartford - Abbey Wood, only.
✠ NOT VALID ON HS1: Dover - Canterbury - Faversham - Strood - Dartford - Abbey Wood, only.
NOT LONDN/EBBSFT: Dover - Canterbury - Faversham - Strood - Dartford - Abbey Wood, only.

Speak to Southeastern customer services and they'll probably get this changed - clearly it is nonsense to have 3 routed fares but only 1 valid route. I'm not sure there's a clear-cut solution here.