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Unusual deployment of resources within marginal time (Trivia)

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GordonT

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I know that opportunities will be much more restricted since "Balkanisation" but are there any examples left within any of the TOCs where a form of traction performs a "filler" journey on a route such a type would not otherwise be used during what would otherwise be unproductive time?

My memory goes back to the early days of when BR Scottish Region was rebranded ScotRail under Chris Green and you got odd but sensible things such as Euston-Glasgow Central 87s and coaches starting back from/extended to Ayr, HSTs from Inverness to King's Cross starting back at Elgin etc.
 
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I know that opportunities will be much more restricted since "Balkanisation" but are there any examples left within any of the TOCs where a form of traction performs a "filler" journey on a route such a type would not otherwise be used during what would otherwise be unproductive time?

My memory goes back to the early days of when BR Scottish Region was rebranded ScotRail under Chris Green and you got odd but sensible things such as Euston-Glasgow Central 87s and coaches starting back from/extended to Ayr, HSTs from Inverness to King's Cross starting back at Elgin etc.
Well, at one point the entire Edinburgh to Aberdeen service was more-or-less entirely resourced through "marginal time" working!

A mixture of HSTs to/from London, one to/from Leeds and the daily XC service. (1985 timetable).


You also had the Aberdeen-Plymouth starting back from Elgin in at least one timetable period (1984?).

Glasgow QS to Edinburgh Express services formed of through HSTs to/from London, slotted into the srandard timetable.

Initially a Perth-Kings Cross HST (1982), which later became the Highland Chieftain (1984). Don't remember any starting back at Elgin though. The Sunday southbound ran via Elgin and Aberdeen for many years, as the HML was shut until the afternoon on Sundays into the 1990s.

The Edinburgh-Penzance HST was extended back to start from Dundee in 1983 and ran as an morning all stations (bar two) stopper within the regular interval timetable. The return from Plymouth did the same in the evening.

The Royal Scot as you mentioned, starting back from Ayr, running effectively a high-quality Ayr to Glasgow morning commuter and and evening equivalent back (though I don't think the return working was the Royal Scot service).


Probably a couple I've missed.

Examples did exist on other regions, but I think the Scottish Region/ScotRail possibly had the largest number of examples?
 

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Northern (or WYPTE?) used a GC 180 on a morning Halifax-Leeds peak extra pre 195s.

Before GA's "mass extinction" an EM set worked a morning Yarmouth (or Lowestoft?).
 

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EMR run a Sunday morning Derby- Nottingham regional train service (via Long Eaton and Beeston) operated by Intercity stock (usually a Class 810) as a positioning move from Etches Park to Nottingham to form a London-bound services.

Edit: sorry that might not be entirely within your question!
 

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Northern (or WYPTE?) used a GC 180 on a morning Halifax-Leeds peak extra pre 195s.

Before GA's "mass extinction" an EM set worked a morning Yarmouth (or Lowestoft?).
Similar back when Northern ran the Barton services, there was a time when the first train of the day was a TPE 185 which would work a regular TPE service when it arrived back at Cleethorpes.

Pretty sure it was a Yarmouth train which was ran using an East Midlands 158.
 

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Northern (or WYPTE?) used a GC 180 on a morning Halifax-Leeds peak extra pre 195s.
....and during - and immediately after COVID - it ran through to/from Hebden Bridge three times per day during the off-peak. IIRC, this was largely to maintain GC crews' route knowledge for diversions in the event of Dry Cough Jn-Greetland Jn being closed....but it was very enjoyable having a first class ride into Bradford and back. ;)
 

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Arguably LNER's 1N00 0808 Darlington to Newcastle is an example of this, the set then goes on to work a Newcastle to Kings Cross service, and in the original timetable plan it simply came off Heaton later to work that service.
 

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The early morning XC 170 working from Bristol (as far as Gloucester at least - after that it’s on familiar territory).
Although it’s the same TOC, an IET (albeit only a 5 car) working the 06.57 Bath - Bristol stopper is hardly doing what it was built for.
 

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The early morning XC 170 working from Bristol (as far as Gloucester at least - after that it’s on familiar territory).
Although it’s the same TOC, an IET (albeit only a 5 car) working the 06.57 Bath - Bristol stopper is hardly doing what it was built for.
Is this the random XC that once a day does Bristol-Stanstead?
 

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The East Mids 158 was diagrammed to do the first Lowestoft from Norwich and then the 0757 Liverpool however it wasn't unknown for other workings to covered, particularly towards the end of Sprinter workings - in 2018 EMT units worked on hire to Lowestoft, Sheringham, Yarmouth and Cambridge regularly.
 

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Do Northern units have a tiny presence between Carlisle and Dumfries or is it 100% ScotRail these days?
 

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A few years ago now but First Great Western used the Night Rivera sleeper stock and loco to operate a Penzance to Plymouth and return service in high summer.
 

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LNER are about to get another:


At the moment there's a Sunday morning ECS from Doncaster Carr to Lincoln via Newark - from the timetable change next month it'll run in service from Newark to Lincoln, with a London connection possible out of the 09:03 from Kings Cross to Edinburgh.
 
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