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Kings Heath to Selly Oak easement

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dracos

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I see the new Camp Hill line has so far led to two new easements, neither of which I understand :)

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701516 Passengers travelling from Kings Heath to Selly Oak can travel via Kings Norton or Birmingham New Street. This Local easement applies in both directions.

What is special about this one station on the Camp Hill line, and the one station on the cross-city line?
Both stations (and all the other stations between Birmingham New Street and Kings Norton on both lines) share two routeing points - "G02 Birmigham [sic] Group" and "Barnt Green".
While the Routeing Guide section A states: "Some origins and destinations have more than one common routeing point. The permitted route is the shortest of the alternatives", the Routeing Guide section F does not say the same, stating: "If there is a common routeing point, the permitted route is the shortest route or a route which is longer by no more than 3 miles. Also permitted is the route followed by direct trains to and from the common routeing point if the journey is made on those trains." (my emphasis)
So that latter says to me that going via either Kings Norton or New Street should be fine, and indeed the National Rail journey planner will happily give you journeys from e.g. Pineapple Road to University via either Kings Norton or New Street, with the same ticket. (It will also give you journeys from Kings Norton to Kings Heath or Selly Oak via New Street (going up one line, down the other), but interestingly not Kings Norton to Pineapple Road or Bournville...)

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701515 Passengers travelling from Pineapple Road, Kings Heath and Moseley Village to Droitwich Spa, Bromsgrove Kings Norton, Camp Hill can travel via Bromsgrove and Kings Norton or by changing at Birmingham New Street. This Local easement aaplies [sic] in both direction

https://enrgbrowser.com/easements/701515/2026-03-06 says this is actually implemented to Droitwich or Hereford, and I don't know what the "Camp Hill" reference means. So this easement is actually, if I understand it right, "Passengers travelling from Pineapple Road/Kings Heath/Moseley Village to Droitwich Spa or Hereford can also travel via Birmingham New Street"? Which makes sense. And the journey planner does also offer via New Street for eg Pineapple Road to Bromsgrove or Great Malvern.
 
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I see the new Camp Hill line has so far led to two new easements, neither of which I understand :)

Firstly:


What is special about this one station on the Camp Hill line, and the one station on the cross-city line?
The easement isn't actually needed for travel from King's Heath to Selly Oak, and if a journey planner is working correctly, it won't even see the easement for such a journey.

It's valid via King's Norton because it's the shortest route, and it's valid via Birmingham New Street because of the common routeing point rule.
https://enrgbrowser.com/easements/701515/2026-03-06 says this is actually implemented to Droitwich or Hereford, and I don't know what the "Camp Hill" reference means. So this easement is actually, if I understand it right, "Passengers travelling from Pineapple Road/Kings Heath/Moseley Village to Droitwich Spa or Hereford can also travel via Birmingham New Street"? Which makes sense. And the journey planner does also offer via New Street for eg Pineapple Road to Bromsgrove or Great Malvern.
It's not uncommon for the text to make no sense.

However, it doesn't matter what the text says as journey planners purely look at the actual data.
 

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It would be nice to know whether a ticket from University/Selly Oak/Bournville to Camp Hill stations would be valid via both Kings Norton and New Street (useful to know in the event of disruption) but ticket office staff don't appear to have been told.

The risk of encountering revenue protection is too great to gamble.
 

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It would be nice to know whether a ticket from University/Selly Oak/Bournville to Camp Hill stations would be valid via both Kings Norton and New Street (useful to know in the event of disruption) but ticket office staff don't appear to have been told.

The risk of encountering revenue protection is too great to gamble.
I had a quick look at some diagnostics; Bourneville to Pineapple Road and Five Ways to Moseley Village are the two 'extremes' and both are valid via either route.
 
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