Correct, thats the plan unless anything else happens between now and then!
Then Sunday only musters 1 diagram, the Crewe start/finish as it stands.
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TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc
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Then Sunday only musters 1 diagram, the Crewe start/finish as it stands.
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ojb_455850
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Thanks. That Sunday Crewe start/finish (1W00/1V70/1W60) will probably be 67010+HD07 then! Hopefully there won't be anymore unwanted chaos for the rest of the week... though I highly doubt that'll be the case.
Is the one set in use from Crewe tomorrow, definitely doing the ECS to Manchester, to form 1V33 ?
ojb_455850
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Yes. 67010+HD07 planned to do 1V33/1W57/1V46/1W65 tomorrow, I believe anyway...
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Thats the plan yes, gets it back to Crewe to do the diagram from there on Sunday.
ojb_455850
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67013 now on set HD04, was seen passing through Abergavenny on 1V91.
Welshguy1048
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Morning
Can anyone help with a list of which loco - is with which set please ?
Thank you
Dave
Can anyone help with a list of which loco - is with which set please ?
Thank you
Dave
67015+HD01
67013+HD04
67025+HD05
67008+HD06
67010+HD07
Other 2 are out of use without a loco.
Welshguy1048
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Welshguy1048
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Afternoon
Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
Thank you
Dave
Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
Thank you
Dave
FrodshamJnct
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Loco 67015
Welshguy1048
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Topological
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Is there any sense of when we might have 5 sets out again?
I note that 1W11 was a 3-car 197 again today, leaving just 2-car for 1W12. This was the same yesterday. I am watching nervously with a need to use these trains next week.
I note that 1W11 was a 3-car 197 again today, leaving just 2-car for 1W12. This was the same yesterday. I am watching nervously with a need to use these trains next week.
5 have been out since this afternoon so its planned to be normal again.
Although it does require 5 from 5 for now.
Topological
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Thank you. Fingers crossed for next week then
ojb_455850
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That didn't exactly last long... 1V33 is 197021 vice 67013+HD04 which failed on prep!
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What's the plan for tomorrow and Sunday?
TIA
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Topological
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1W61 is going to be cosy. They seem to have borrowed a 197 from 1W20 as well as that is going north as 2 carriages. If that stays the same then both the 17:30 and 18:30 south from Manchester will be 2-car 197s.
I know TfW are not responsible for Manchester commuting, but there needs to be some mechanism to encourage TfW to get more carriages onto these trains, especially the 17:30. The 18:30 is at least capable of being 2-car south of Shrewsbury.
I know TfW are not responsible for Manchester commuting, but there needs to be some mechanism to encourage TfW to get more carriages onto these trains, especially the 17:30. The 18:30 is at least capable of being 2-car south of Shrewsbury.
18:30 from Manchester will be swapped in a Mk4 at Crewe on the way up.
All diagrams are planned to run as booked Saturday and Sunday
Topological
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Thank you for the update, that will be a very welcome relief for people. Hope they are able to make the swap ok.
ojb_455850
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67020+HD04.
Yes, loco swapped since this morning.
FrodshamJnct
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Today’s plan:
TFW 67 & Mk4 Diagrams
Expected as - Subject to Change
Saturday 11th April
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D1 - 67029 Set HD07 (Loco MAN end)
*After Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.18 CRE CS - MAN 06.19)
1V33 06.27 Manchester - Cardiff 09.50
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.20
(5K65 ECS 22.36 MAN - CRE CS 23.22)
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D2 - 67008 Set HD06 (Loco CDF end)
*Via Styal*
(5V37 ECS 07.16 CRE CS - MAN 08.09)
(5V37 ECS 08.30 MAN - CRE 09.10)
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*UNIT* 197110*
1V37 09.40 Shrewsbury - Cardiff 11.37
1W59 12.53 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Swansea 20.46
(5V50 ECS 21.11 SWA - CDF CS 22.32)
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D3 - 67020 Set HD04 (Loco CDF end)
(5W13 ECS 04.08 CDF CS - SWA 05.10)
1W13 05.39 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.45
1W61 14.53 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.52
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D4 - 67015 Set HD01 (Loco CDF end)
1W55 08.54 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.43
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.13
*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.08)
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ojb_455850
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Topological
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So this would now make it 2 sets in Cardiff tonight?
Will 1V50 need chopping back to CDF to allow for the usual issue of not having two sets (the ECS, plus the 18:30 from Manchester) arriving into Cardiff at the same time to go onto Canton?
MP393
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It’s always been the case on a Saturday, diagrams have always had the Swansea run, and V62 run, both as Mk4s.
Topological
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I never travel Saturdays, but two arriving back at Canton at a similar time is the reasoning given for the 16:30 not running through to Swansea any more.
MP393
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I know, it is an odd anomaly but they both run as Mk4s on a Saturday and arrive at a similar time, I can only imagine there’s a couple less unit diagrams on a Saturday so there is less going on at Canton thus making it easier to accept than in the week.
Had an amusing experience yesterday - after planning my travel based on what should have been Mk4s, and checking on RealTimeTrains that it actually was, when I turned up at the station the screens were warning of a 3 car train with no first class and reduced catering. Though the train diagram showed 5 coaches.
Fortunately RTT was right and they were wrong which was a nice surprise after the less welcome one.
How is the catering done at the moment? The buffet counter was closed but people were being served from a trolley next to it. It looked as if people in first class were being served something from the kitchen though.
I've never been sure what they do on weekends - the TfW information doesn't seem to suggest anything different to weekdays, but then it also claims that there is zero catering in standard class so I don't trust it very much.
Fortunately RTT was right and they were wrong which was a nice surprise after the less welcome one.
How is the catering done at the moment? The buffet counter was closed but people were being served from a trolley next to it. It looked as if people in first class were being served something from the kitchen though.
I've never been sure what they do on weekends - the TfW information doesn't seem to suggest anything different to weekdays, but then it also claims that there is zero catering in standard class so I don't trust it very much.