Good stuff.
think it occurred previously also
5 Road, like 3 & 4, were modified and extended as far as physically possible in the original SWT 10 car plan. The buffers on 5 being very close to Shacklegate Jn. That said they can all accommodate 10 cars each, but there is an authorised walking route from 1-4 sidings that crosses 5 road at it's Southern end to access the crew block etc,. which when left clear, still allows for 10 car to be stabled in clear (both ends) on 5 road.
The bowsers have been busy for donkeys years at Waterloo, as you'll be aware I'm sure, but 701's will be new in that context obviously. The only potential problem is that there use to be a restriction that prevented bowsers topping up on platform 19, which I believe was pretty narrow in places, which was used regularly by 458's on the Reading road, and at the time (without p20-24) the timetable prevented many of the 2Cxx'x being moved lower down to 17/18 etc. Things may well have changed since?
It has not been "one railway" since the whole lot was privatised in 1996 ! That is when the rot really set in which had the "one railway" split up into around 30 different private companies. Hopefully some of this shambles will be sorted out by Great British Railways, but don't hold your breath.
Pretty high odds of both loos going out of action on a 701/0 if it is due to a full waste tank or empty water tank. After all there is nothing to say one loo will be used more than the other. So, once one loo is out of action, the second loo will suffer up to double its usual use and quickly go out of action as its tanks are probably close to needing emptying and/or filling anyway.
I am noticing it on 730s as well.
Certainly up to very recently the 701s could not be refilled with a water browser on platforms. It was mentioned many times internally that it would be very useful if that could be changed since there are a couple of water browsers at Waterloo, and pretty much every 701 in service will end up at Waterloo many multiple times in a day. It was that they could only be refilled at depots. However I have been told they have now begun using the browsers at Waterloo, which is very handy. The issue is, like you mention, one toilet being locked out means the other is used a lot more than usual which uses up way more water. Having both toilets locked out so regularly is not a good look at all, but going forwards it should happen much less, since the water levels in the toilet being insufficient was *by far* the most common reason why a toilet automatically locked itself out of use.
Why only 2 toilets on a 10-coach train?
rare sight of 458s at Kingston - presumably so they can use the bay platform (Rounders only running between Kingston and Barnes - through platforms busy with Windsors and Readings as well as Sheppertons, which are all 701s
I have seen both out of action more than once. I make a point of observing the status as they seem to be out of order quite a bit.
That is correct yes. They are working the shuttles to Barnes via Richmond as well as Barnes-Windsor, since the 701/0s obviously can’t use the bay platform at Kingston, and there are no 701/5s in service currently.
The 701s are used on metro services in and out of Waterloo. The priority was to design the train with as much room (standing) as possible, so it was decided that only two toilets would be fitted in a 10-car, and only one in a 5-car unit. Every toilet on a 701 is an accessible one.
It was an automated announcement and on the CIS display.
Could have none like the Elizabeth line and southeastern 707s to name a few
058 is back in service today on the Reading line, currently working 2C32, next working 2C35.
Currently showing as allocated to 2U52 1653 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on RTT
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And shows as working 2U45 1533 from Waterloo beforehand.Currently showing as allocated to 2U52 1653 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on RTT
Realtime Trains | 1653 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo | 07/04/2026
Real-time train running information for 1653 departure from Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on 07/04/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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701 023 is also on the 15.33 Waterloo to Windsor. For some reason, probably to do with the data feed, RTT isn't picking that up on the unit number search.Currently showing as allocated to 2U52 1653 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on RTT
Realtime Trains | 1653 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo | 07/04/2026
Real-time train running information for 1653 departure from Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on 07/04/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Finally we hit the 75% mark for the 10 car units in service…….
And only in last couple of weeks hit the 50% by vehicles when exceeded 375/750
Strange that the units entering traffic recently are below 030
Far from unusual on EMR/Avanti, presumably because of some (over) simplification of delay code look-up table.
There's only four above 030 to go. 040 has been at Farnham a long while unless it's moved not publicly allocated. 032 only moved back to Wimbledon last week, 055 was the most recent "delivery" and 045 the second most recent. 023 in contrast was the oldest delivery 28th Jan not already in passenger service.
Correct. For Network Rail delay attribution purposes delays or cancellation due to the operator putting different stock to planned is similar enough to be grouped under the same code. In this case the stock is put elsewhere entirely rather than a slower train causing a cancellation. The RTT description focuses on the slower train than planned. The passenger facing system has due to "a fault on a train" rather than "train fault". At a scan think it might be 007 that failed. The 17:53 to Dorking is a frequent candidate for this as it goes empty to Wimbledon depot straight afterwards allowing whatever due to run it to instead run the rest of the diagram of the unit which failed.
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701520 & 701522 were both visible today at Clapham but both had separate 701/5 partners. Anybody know which ones they are as 528 & 529 were in their usual place?
