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Boulby Freight line - Errosion plan

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I've not seen a post regarding this; what are people thoughts on the future of the Saltburn to Boulby line due to erosion?

An article online on The Northern Echo website, questioning what the plan is to prevent erosion:
Fears have been expressed about the potential impact of coastal erosion on a “vital” railway freight line in East Cleveland.
The Saltburn to Boulby line serves the potash mine at Boulby and the British Steel site at Skinningrove, both major employers in the area.

While the majority of the route is some way inland, it hugs the coast at Huntcliff, Saltburn with only a coastal path, forming part of the Cleveland Way, separating it from the sea.
At a recent Redcar and Cleveland Council climate and environment scrutiny committee, members warned of “cliff instability near rail assets” and questioned officers over the approach being taken.

They also called for better communication with the likes of Network Rail, which maintains rail infrastructure assets, suggesting a “structured forum” should be established with the body and other interested parties to develop current and future strategy...
 
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Not seen a post regarding this.
What are people thoughts on the future of the Saltburn to Boulby line due to erosion?
An article online on The Northern Echo website, questioning what the plan is to prevent errosion.
The sources all seem to be local politicians who do not appear to have any expertise in geology or civil engineering. There is no comment from NR or from any specialists.

I am no engineer either, but it looks to me, having walked in the area around Warsett Hill several times, that moving the line a few hundred metres further inland would be straightforward enough apart from the expense. The reason the line was built so close to the cliff was to allow it to follow the contour lines around Warsett Hill rather than cut or tunnel through it. Moving the line inland would require either a substantial cutting or a tunnel. The land that would be required is currently in use as grazing fields so I suspect the main cost would be the civil engineering works rather than the land. It would presumably come down to the question over whether the line is useful enough to justify the costs.
 

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The sources all seem to be local politicians who do not appear to have any expertise in geology or civil engineering. There is no comment from NR or from any specialists.

I am no engineer either, but it looks to me, having walked in the area around Warsett Hill several times, that moving the line a few hundred metres further inland would be straightforward enough apart from the expense. The reason the line was built so close to the cliff was to allow it to follow the contour lines around Warsett Hill rather than cut or tunnel through it. Moving the line inland would require either a substantial cutting or a tunnel. The land that would be required is currently in use as grazing fields so I suspect the main cost would be the civil engineering works rather than the land. It would presumably come down to the question over whether the line is useful enough to justify the costs.
I've walked that coastal path many a time, and I've always wondered, where the line is at its closest point to the sea, what sort of rock is the cliff formed from? Is it less susceptible to erosion!?
 

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I wish Farcebook wasn't so difficult to search...

A few weeks ago someone was commenting about this issue and they had spoken to Network Rail and their comment was that they had no concerns in the short/medium term (5-15 years) but beyond that it was likely some intervention would be required. Of course I now cannot find this post nor who made it...
 

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I wish Farcebook wasn't so difficult to search...

A few weeks ago someone was commenting about this issue and they had spoken to Network Rail and their comment was that they had no concerns in the short/medium term (5-15 years) but beyond that it was likely some intervention would be required. Of course I now cannot find this post nor who made it...
Good to know they have faith in it for several more years.
 

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Is there any info on how long the reserves at Boulby will last?
Isn’t it in the plan for a conveyor system from Boulby to Middlesbrough in association with extending the life of the mine? Or is that somewhere else?
 

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Isn’t it in the plan for a conveyor system from Boulby to Middlesbrough in association with extending the life of the mine? Or is that somewhere else?

That's Woodsmith Mine, different project.
 

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Is there any info on how long the reserves at Boulby will last?
It's a little hard to say but there was a piece in the BBC last year that indicated decades or even centuries of reserves of rock salt which is one of their main exports:

Opened as a potash mine, the rock salt was produced as the miners pushed through the deposits to get to the fertiliser product.

Although the facility now mines a different fertiliser - polyhalite - Boulby still produces hundreds of thousands of tonnes of rock salt.

The exact amount it produces varies, depending on how harsh a winter the country is experiencing.

According to National Highways, about 215,000 tonnes of salt is used on average each winter on motorways and major A-roads.

The good news for drivers and pedestrians is that there is no shortage of rock salt available at Boulby.

According to Mr Edwards [ICL Boulby Chief Geologist], "we have resources to last us many decades, if not centuries".


And that's just the rock salt side, they make the money these days on polyhalite (like the Woodsmith Mine will if it comes off) and they report having plenty of that on hand as well:

Recent Discoveries​

Our exploration geologists have identified and are continuing to discover an abundance of polyhalite reserves, our new multi-nutrient mineral that we have now turned our attention towards. Our polyhalite is safe to mine and is present in sufficient quantities to invest in the development of its efficient extraction. So far, we have an estimated 1 billion tonnes of polyhalite resources, some of which we are currently mining, making ICL UK the sole producer of polyhalite worldwide.

In 2017, we reached a landmark of 1 million tonnes of polyhalite mined at ICL Boulby and we’ve got big plans to come. We’re the only ones mining it globally and with our expertise, we plan to mine 1 million tonnes per year by 2020.


Judging from the dates given that's probably from some years ago but I can't think of a reason to think that their estimated reserves are particularly far wide of the mark!

Reckon Boulby will be in operation for some time to come yet, at least as long as it's economical to do so. After all I believe that there are technically centuries of reserves of coal in Wales, Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and elsewhere but it's not economic to mine it so down there it stays...


Also Skinningrove Steel facility to consider.

Indeed, it doesn't generate huge flows of traffic but normally a couple of trains (ish) a day of steel slab and empty wagons the other way (of course once upon a time that slab came from much more local steelworks, but these days it's Scunthorpe I think). I don't think any final products are exported from there by rail, that all goes by road.

On a typical day the branch sees fifteen or so freights Monday to Saturday (usually nothing on Sunday or maybe one or two). Crag Hall S.B. on RTT will show the traffic serving both the mine and the steelworks. It's a reasonable flow of traffic to be honest! Whether it's valuable enough to spend a lot of money on cutting into the side of Warsett Hill sometime in the future to pull the line back from the edge of the cliffs I don't know...
 
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