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New Belmond train in England & Wales

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Maurice Turner

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Looks as though there could be some test runs starting tomorrow from Eastleigh Arlington

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And now cancelled.

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Has been reinstated, departing at 1145.
 
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tfw756rider said:
Is a schedule up?
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Monday:

Realtime Trains | 1V00 1548 London Victoria to Haverfordwest | 23/03/2026

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Tuesday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z65 0512 Haverfordwest to Llandrindod | 24/03/2026

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Realtime Trains | 1Z66 1352 Llandrindod to Pwllheli | 24/03/2026

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Realtime Trains | 1Z67 2226 Pwllheli to Barmouth | 24/03/2026

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Wednesday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z72 0954 Barmouth to Machynlleth | 25/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z72 0954 departure from Barmouth to Machynlleth on 25/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z73 1444 Machynlleth to Oxford Up & Dn Passenger | 25/03/2026

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Realtime Trains | 1Z74 2248 Oxford Up & Dn Passenger to Honeybourne Staff Hut | 25/03/2026

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Thursday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z75 0550 Honeybourne Staff Hut to London Victoria | 26/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z75 0550 departure from Honeybourne Staff Hut to London Victoria on 26/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Looks as though the first outing since repairs (at Brodies Hamilton) has finished ontime at Victoria.

Next trip, starting 15:48 today from Victoria, is as per :-
BillStampy said:
Monday:

Realtime Trains | 1V00 1548 London Victoria to Haverfordwest | 23/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1V00 1548 departure from London Victoria to Haverfordwest on 23/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Tuesday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z65 0512 Haverfordwest to Llandrindod | 24/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z65 0512 departure from Haverfordwest to Llandrindod on 24/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z66 1352 Llandrindod to Pwllheli | 24/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z66 1352 departure from Llandrindod to Pwllheli on 24/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z67 2226 Pwllheli to Barmouth | 24/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z67 2226 departure from Pwllheli to Barmouth on 24/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Wednesday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z72 0954 Barmouth to Machynlleth | 25/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z72 0954 departure from Barmouth to Machynlleth on 25/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z73 1444 Machynlleth to Oxford Up & Dn Passenger | 25/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z73 1444 departure from Machynlleth to Oxford Up & Dn Passenger on 25/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z74 2248 Oxford Up & Dn Passenger to Honeybourne Staff Hut | 25/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z74 2248 departure from Oxford Up & Dn Passenger to Honeybourne Staff Hut on 25/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Thursday:

Realtime Trains | 1Z75 0550 Honeybourne Staff Hut to London Victoria | 26/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 1Z75 0550 departure from Honeybourne Staff Hut to London Victoria on 26/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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gazthomas said:
Interesting to see that they're not doing the Barmouth to Tywyn and return "shuttle" now
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Looking at RTT for Wednesdays going forward, the first services in each direction are terminating at Barmouth, both using Platform 2, and then returning to where they came from.

Presumably to allow the Belmond to remain at Barmouth and save all the hassle of that shuttle.
 
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I saw it leave Victoria this afternoon with all ten coaches in the formation. First time I have seen coach 99104 at last in action but had a door out of use sticker.

I gathered these are test runs with Belmond staff being given a chance to break em.
 
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Peter Sarf said:
gathered these are test runs with Belmond staff being given a chance to break em.
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Still going strong this morning on its way to Machynlleth, where I will be passing in a couple of hours, touch wood. I wonder if the crew have been told to open and close all the doors a few times at each stop?!
 
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chrisjo said:
Still going strong this morning on its way to Machynlleth, where I will be passing in a couple of hours, touch wood. I wonder if the crew have been told to open and close all the doors a few times at each stop?!
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Which locos are they using, the Class 97s?
 
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Peter Sarf said:
Seems that 66748 was left behind at Shrewesbury when the 97s took over to take the Brittanic Explorer into ETCS land.
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66708 came from Bescot, and once the Britannic had departed for the Cambrian, it went and coupled up to 66748 and towed it back to Bescot. Quite why 748 needed a chaperone, is anyone's guess.
 
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50032 said:
66708 came from Bescot, and once the Britannic had departed for the Cambrian, it went and coupled up to 66748 and towed it back to Bescot. Quite why 748 needed a chaperone, is anyone's guess.
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Had 66748 failed?
 
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Peter Sarf said:
Seems that 66748 was left behind at Shrewesbury when the 97s took over to take the Brittanic Explorer into ETCS land.
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That's normal for any charter train on the Cambrian. The 66 (or whatever) is left at Shrewsbury and then it's just either two 97s or a 97+37 on the Cambrian (a 37 behind a driven-from 97 is allowed, although I did actually see a 37 driven at Machynlleth in 2022, but of course under possession on the 197003 drag night).

The last time a 66 went on the Cambrian was in 2023 I think, in the Welshpool and Newtown areas, but that was on its own, under possession at low speed (due to of course being non-ETCS-fitted), for track renewal work. A 56 also did the same thing.
 
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MotCO said:
Had 66748 failed?
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Generally, as others have said, non ETCS locomotives or units are not allowed to venture onto the Cambrian (West of Machynlleth iirc ?).

It might be that a driver had to come to Shrewesbery to relieve the driver of 66748 - I do not know how many hours 66748s driver would have been driving for ?. So maybe not a failure but a light loco from Bescot but that seems a bit excessive.
 
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Maurice Turner said:
After each tour, why does the Britannic Explorer return to Eastleigh?
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I wonder if it has a special cleaning and internal maintenance regime that is better handled at a separate location to normal carriage cleaning depots. Those moneyed blanks are high demand and, usually, low consideration.
 
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