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Is that a 12 month slippage? Previous statements were late 2027 / early 2028.
Were the previous statements ever anything more than hopeful estimates? Arguably it's already slipped several times anyway.

In 2019 it was hoped trains would be running by 2021(!) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-47853916
The Portishead branch line shut in 1964 but is now part of a project which aims to reopen the line to passenger services by 2021.

So it's always a bit of a 'how do you feel' question about stated opening dates. As this is the first appearance of the scheme in an actual document measuring delivery, I'm minded to take the Dec-28 date as the 'original' opening date for this scheme.
It's possible that services will start earlier than Dec-28 but there will be some final snagging that means final project closeout does not take place until then.
 

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Were the previous statements ever anything more than hopeful estimates? Arguably it's already slipped several times anyway.

In 2019 it was hoped trains would be running by 2021(!) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-47853916


So it's always a bit of a 'how do you feel' question about stated opening dates. As this is the first appearance of the scheme in an actual document measuring delivery, I'm minded to take the Dec-28 date as the 'original' opening date for this scheme.
It's possible that services will start earlier than Dec-28 but there will be some final snagging that means final project closeout does not take place until then.
Indeed, maybe Dec 2028 has been chosen as a worst case scenario type. Hopefully with lessons learned from Project Speed on the Okehampton line, it will be earlier than that, especially if machines such as Balfour’s NTC is used to lay the Pill > Portishead section.
 

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The work required could probably be done within a year, that's the civil engineering, the track formation and laying of the track plus the installation of the signalling equipment. However, it would require agreements with the current freight operator(s) and very carefully scheduling.

This also assumes any problems don't upset or delay the schedule.

In practice, these projects often take longer because it apparently costs less by doing it more slowly.
 
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By 2028 there’s a vague chance there might actually be some stock available to run the service!
 

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By 2028 there’s a vague chance there might actually be some stock available to run the service!
True, but 37 year old diesels, which by then will be few years since last refurb, is not exactly the image of glitzy everything new.

OK, it's a step up from current no service, although the suggestion that peak hour trains will be just 3cars once an hour is not going to impress someone moving to Portishead from London
 

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True, but 37 year old diesels, which by then will be few years since last refurb, is not exactly the image of glitzy everything new.

OK, it's a step up from current no service, although the suggestion that peak hour trains will be just 3cars once an hour is not going to impress someone moving to Portishead from London
So - do we wait for an as yet indeterminate time for new trains to be ordered, then another as yet indeterminate period while people scratch their heads while trying to get them to actually work or do we get on with doing what is practical (and within the constrained budget) now?
 

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Notices have now gone up in Portishead on the roads near the site of the station, saying work will start in the second week in April and will take 18 months which should take us till October 2027.
 

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Some of the more speculative discussions about possible services are now in this thread:
 

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Today marks the 'official' network rail start date or works. Topside buildings at Pill will start demo, work to create work compounds on A369 prior to the major rework of the roads by the new Portishead station.
 

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Pill station was still very much intact when I passed it yesterday. The January 21 edition of Rail claimed that it had already been cleared!

Sad to lose an original building, but it’s fairly mundane as station buildings go.
 

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Local paper reporting that work on removing the old track and preparing the trackbed from Portishead to Pill will begin on 5 May.
 
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Local paper reporting that work on removing the old track and preparing the trackbed from Portishead to Pill will begin on 4 May.
Link to North Somerset Times article: https://www.northsomersettimes.co.u...stage-portishead-line-works-cause-disruption/ (my bold)
The next stage of construction for the rebuilding of the Portishead to Bristol railway line is set to begin soon.

The work will see the old railway along the disused line removed and the area prepared for new track to be installed.

It is set to take place from Tuesday, May 5 until August this year, with Network Rail working from Monday to Friday between 7.30am and 5.30pm.

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The work will see old sections of track and tree stumps removed to create space for the new railway line.

Network Rail will also put up fencing, remove old track equipment, and reprofile culverts and ditches.

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The line is expected to reopen in 2028, after main construction on its restoration started earlier this year.
 

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Lot of the old track has already been lifted when they cut back lot of trees. Guess they’ll finish off what the council started before Xmas
 

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Just cycled from Portishead to Pill the majority of the track has been removed on the Portishead side of the M5 although most is still in place on the Pill side. Work going on one of the bridges into Portbury Dock
 

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Just cycled from Portishead to Pill the majority of the track has been removed on the Portishead side of the M5 although most is still in place on the Pill side. Work going on one of the bridges into Portbury Dock

Yeah the hump bridge is closed till June to strengthen it. Presumably the docks are going to use it heavily now they have car parks on the other side.
 

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A preserved Pacer is going to Portbury tomorrow from Temple Meads on a WECA / Metrowest jaunt. 0900 ex BTM and back there by 1015. Then a jolly out to Henbury and WSM.
 

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A preserved Pacer is going to Portbury tomorrow from Temple Meads on a WECA / Metrowest jaunt. 0900 ex BTM and back there by 1015. Then a jolly out to Henbury and WSM.
I hope it doesn't have a similar encounter with the Portbury gates to what happened to the 153 when they did the jolly to launch the concept that became Metro West. Rather depressingly - that was 14 years ago!DSCF0576.JPG
Image of the scrape along the side of a Class 153 caused by an altercation with the gates at Portbury Dock - September 2012
 

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The work will see the old railway along the disused line removed and the area prepared for new track to be installed.

It is set to take place from Tuesday, May 5 until August this year, with Network Rail working from Monday to Friday between 7.30am and 5.30pm.

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The work will see old sections of track and tree stumps removed to create space for the new railway line.



Network Rail are going to be working from 7.30 till 5.30 for four months to remove the old track and as they are Network Rail staff (so I assume well paid as you don't pay rubbish wage's to safety critical people) then that is a fair chunk of wages also I would assume using plant equipment so using diesel which is particularly expensive at the moment which helps push up the overall cost of the scheme and so despite the success of reopening's it will be used as a argument "against" when the next proposal is put forward.

In a TV programme I saw where they were talking about Beeching they showed some footage of a bloke with a machine that looked a bit like a road drill but with a attachment on the end to unscrew the bolts attaching a chair (rail had already gone) to a sleeper then another bloke followed him and using a long crow bar gemmied the chair off the sleeper, I have also seen footage and picture's where you just have some blokes simply using long crowbars gemming the track apart.

I am assuming that the old track will be offered to a heritage railway for free?.

So, why wasn't a heritage railway invited to send some volunteers down to do the job for free? (example here): www.punchline-gloucester.com/articles/aanews/dean-forest-railway-society-volunteers-give-extra-help-to-wye-valley-greenway-new-footpath-cycle-pat


Railway volunteers give extra help to Wye Valley Greenway​

By Sarah Wood | 7th December 2020

Volunteer members of the Dean Forest Railway Society have completed their clearance of track and overgrown vegetation from part of the railway which used to link Chepstow and Monmouth along the Wye Valley, ready for a new tourist attraction for the Forest.

The work will help to create the new Wye Valley Greenway which is set to open next year, providing cyclists and walkers with a path without traffic along the bank of the Wye.
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Alastair Clarke, DFRS chair of trustees, said: "It took us about 25 site visits for our volunteers to clear the south end of the route, between the junction with the main line northwards as far as the 1090m-long Tidenham tunnel.

Apart from vegetation, we unclipped the continuously welded rail from the sleepers and cut it into 18m-odd lengths for lorry transport to Lydney along with the lifted concrete sleepers.





or heritage railway's are crying out for volunteers and people pay a fortune to go to a gym to lift weight's so subject to some basic safety training, signing a disclaimer form and supervision from some heritage railway volunteers why weren't members of the public invited to come and help lift the track which might have given them the bug to volunteer on a heritage railway?
 

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The Network Rail 153 did an early-evening round trip a couple of weeks ago (13/4/26), I wonder if that was part of the planning for Friday’s VIP jaunt? The regular monthly test train ran down a couple of days later at the usual time so it wasn’t covering that.
 

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Tender portal has couple of awards announced today, roads and bridges associated with Portishead line, Sheepway Bridge and Old Station Road Bridge

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North Somerset Council procured a contractor to deliver the design and construction works to upgrade highways and bridges as part of the MetroWest Phase 1B project. The overall objective of MetroWest Phase 1B is to re-open the Portishead rail line and provide an hourly service between Portishead and Bristol Temple Meads, with new stations at Portishead and Pill. The Project will connect 50,000 residents to the rail network and forms part of a wider MetroWest programme to deliver strategic enhancements to the local rail network. The highway and bridge works comprise of two works packages. Package 1 is the highways scope which includes detailed design (stage 1) and construction (stage 2). Package 2 is the bridges scope which includes stage 2 construction only (covered by 3 separate contracts). This notice relates to the award of the Stage 2 Package 2 Bridges construction contract 2 of 3 (Sheepway Bridge and Old Station Road Bridge)

 

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More history gone to waste.

Nah lets be honest here these buildings haven't been in use for 60+ years, they were bland red brick buildings of little note or heritage and not really close to the platforms. Most of us who've lived in Pill will remember the building as a hardware shop more than station buildings.

If Portbury station had been knocked down as part of this project I'd agree its a bit of history lost but really that's the most significant building left on the line.
 

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