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Rick1984
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Great for longer journeys. But for short rips they'll just set the price at the price cap across the board regardless of the distance
JKP
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Are there any fares less than £2.00? To my knowledge there are none in the Borders or Lothian.
Kite159
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Agreed, especially when the coach service is a lot faster.
scottishtrains
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Aren’t Lothian city fares set at 1.75?
AndrewTaylor95
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No it's £2.40 for a single
Whether you like it or not, trains and buses are competitors - either for passengers, or for their slice of the government pie.
Knowing the shower of absolute
The chattering classes just don't like buses so no real money will ever be spent on them. Trains appeal to the sensibilities of journalists', so "public opinion" will always favour trains over buses despite research saying that trains meet the needs of the poor quite badly as their employment opportunities are often nowhere near any city centres.
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KrisEK
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I've been looking for a list of operators who are participating in the Highlands/Moray/Argyll & Bute region. So far I can only find evidence of Stagecoach having signed up for it?
The Stagecoach fares that were wrong seem to have been corrected and there is a map of the "Highlands" boundaries which show you can go as far as Keith and Cullen for £2.00.
Inverness to Huntly also has a reduced fare, so it looks like it accounts for journeys longer than the £2 fare limit where there would be a saving in the total journey cost.
www.stagecoachbus.com
Inverness to Huntly also has a reduced fare, so it looks like it accounts for journeys longer than the £2 fare limit where there would be a saving in the total journey cost.
Highlands Single Fare Cap
www.stagecoachbus.com
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Thankfully the Far North Line won't ever close as its job is to "be open". Nobody who lives there takes the train as the bus is way faster. when was a railway line ever closed in the UK post
West Coast Buses have said on FB their HITRANS services will have a £2 cap from 23/3. Can’t copy the text but the post is at https://www.facebook.com/share/1CeX92a2Lb/?mibextid=wwXIfr
From their Facebook, Ember are participating in the £2 fare cap trial, but they cannot sell tickets until the start date.
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There does not seem to have been any notification, but Scottish Citylink are also offering the £2 fare cap. A quick glance at Flixbus did not have the £2 fares.
The Moray m connect services are coming up with the £2 fare, so Moray Council must have decided to join the pilot after all.
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Scottish Citylink now has their website page up and running.
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There does not seem to have been any notification, but Scottish Citylink are also offering the £2 fare cap. A quick glance at Flixbus did not have the £2 fares.
The Moray m connect services are coming up with the £2 fare, so Moray Council must have decided to join the pilot after all.
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Scottish Citylink now has their website page up and running.
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Interesting that the boundary is Rest and Be Thankful on the routes via Inveraray - which means there will be a small part of Argyll & Bute (such as Arrochar/Tarbet and Luss) which is outwith the scheme. I assume that's because Helensburgh and Lomond comes under SPT rather than HITRANS?
Yes, fare cap only covers HITRANS area. We all love Scottish quangos.
cf111
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Really, really good news that CityLink are part of the scheme at least for me personally!
Ember is £21.65 single but if you split your journey at Bridge of Orchy then it's £13.55
Thanks, this looks like Ember haven't quite implemented through ticket pricing correctly.
Transport Scotland state that:
I am just trying to work out if any safeguards have been applied to the normal fare for the journey outside the HITRANS area. An operator could apply the £2 fare cap within the HITRANS area, increase the fare for the section of journey outside HITRANS area so the total fare is effectively the same, and just take the reimbursement for £2 fare cap as extra profit. Trying to establish if there are any safeguards in the scheme against this.
Citylink is implemented. Glasgow to Tyndrum is £26.40, Glasgow to Bridge of Orchy, Fort William or Uig is £28.40 with fare cap.
318266
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Ember's... unique car-based pricing regimen means that they do in fact have split-ticketing savings available at times, prior to this setup.
And yet again Ember falling behind as it's still not implemented
I see there are concerns cruise ship passengers will lead to the early curtailing of the scheme.
overthewater
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The pilot was never intended for a bunch of rich people traveling the world, it was to help local people during a cost of living crisis. Hopefully everyone keeps mum about the scheme.
I suspect it will depend on the election results if this scheme carries on, Ie If the SNP gets a majority or is able to do a deal with lib dems I think this will be swept away.
I suspect it will depend on the election results if this scheme carries on, Ie If the SNP gets a majority or is able to do a deal with lib dems I think this will be swept away.
GusB
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Realistically, how many cruise ship passengers are going to be using local public transport when there are dozens of coaches provided for various on-shore trips? There may be a few who want to do their own thing, but I'd imagine that most will follow the itinerary provided as part of the package. It's also very good business for local coach hirers and they come to Invergordon from far and wide.
Has there been a large uptick in passengers on local buses in the past when the ships have been in port?
Has there been a large uptick in passengers on local buses in the past when the ships have been in port?
That's what I was thinking too, I know that the cruise ship trade is pretty lucrative for coach operators in Belfast, Kirkwall and Invergordon, for pre-booked excursions.
I can't imagine many passengers getting off at Invergordon Cruise Port and traipsing to Invergordon High Street to get a bus to Alness or Tain. (Typed somewhat tongue-in-cheek)
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Ember seem to have fixed the fare cap issue when it comes to cross-boundary fares involving two buses.
Glasgow to Wick at £17.25, Edinburgh to Wick £16.25, Aberdeen to Wick £11.35
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It's now showing at £15.55 as a through single, which is correct at the Glasgow to Bridge of Orchy is now £13.55
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GusB
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Well, I've now had a couple of occasions to make use of the £2 fares and it certainly makes a difference. A return trip into town is now £4 as opposed to the £8.60 I'd previously paid for a Dayrider ticket. Even making a two-leg trip is still 60p cheaper.
When I went into town yesterday the bus seemed to have a fairly decent load and it wasn't all NEC (National Entitlement Card) holders, either. Obviously this is purely anecdotal, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else in the area has noticed an increase in the number of people travelling since the introduction of the cap.
When I went into town yesterday the bus seemed to have a fairly decent load and it wasn't all NEC (National Entitlement Card) holders, either. Obviously this is purely anecdotal, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else in the area has noticed an increase in the number of people travelling since the introduction of the cap.
ChrisC
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It will be interesting to see what happens to the price of the Dayrider ticket over the coming months now that you have the £2 single fares in your part of Scotland. Before the £2 fares were introduced in England in January 2023 my Dayrider ticket, which I used for return trips into town was £7.90. There have been regular price increases of the Dayrider during these past 3 years and next week it rises again to £11.50. If ever the now £3 single fare scheme was to end people would get quite a shock at how much prices have increased.