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Tezza1978

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Words fail me at how dire my team (Spurs) are at the moment. Watching us is torturous at the moment and the responsibility of why we are in this situation sits firmly with the owners and many managers we have had over the last few years, as well as the brain dead, limited players we currently have in the first XI. Really can see us going down now.
 
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AlterEgo

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OK, so this could lead to more goals. But it will do absolutely nothing to prevent argument, and there's a strong argument that it will in fact make it worse.

Offside is a line decision. There will always be someone a millimetre the right side of the line and someone a millimetre the wrong side of the line. All this does is move the line, in that respect.

But how is "space/daylight" defined? A body part? A loose fitting shirt? If its body parts, which ones?
Who cares? The intention of the offside law is to force a midfield game with passing rather than goal hanging. It was never intended to be adjudicated to the millimetre. We should stop demanding it to be. Things were fine before VAR.
 

SuspectUsual

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Who cares? The intention of the offside law is to force a midfield game with passing rather than goal hanging. It was never intended to be adjudicated to the millimetre. We should stop demanding it to be. Things were fine before VAR.

That isn't my point

My point is that what Wenger is proposing will not fix the perceived problems of the current system. It amazes me that he doesn't see this, but then he has form for "I did not see ze incident"
 

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The M23 derby is Crystal Palace vs Brighton. I do find it odd this rivalry is stronger than Palace vs Millwall or Charlton Athletic, though since Palace returned to the Premier league, the M23 rivals have met constantly, with the latter two being in the Championship or League One.
While derby is something of a misnomer the bitterness among the two sets of fans involved is surprisingly strong. It dates back to when Alan Mullery and Terry Venables were the managers of the two clubs: the former Spurs teammates had a very public falling out which was latched onto by the fans and so the "M23 Derby" was born.
 

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Until it denies 'your' team a goal or awards the opposition one which before VAR would not have been the case! I agree that it does ludicrous that a player can be half an inch offside, but that is an area where VAR deals with facts only, not opinion or assumption.
Exactly that, it's the offside law that needs to be amended.

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While derby is something of a misnomer the bitterness among the two sets of fans involved is surprisingly strong. It dates back to when Alan Mullery and Terry Venables were the managers of the two clubs: the former Spurs teammates had a very public falling out which was latched onto by the fans and so the "M23 Derby" was born.
Yes that's what started it although I think there is an element of "nobody else hates us so let's hate each other".
 

Mcr Warrior

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Is that the Northern Premier League-West Division matches between Wythenshawe and Wythenshawe Town? Both grounds are in the M23 postal code area.
Not likely to be resumed next season as Wythenshawe AFC and Wythenshawe Town.look to be going in opposite directions.
 

AlterEgo

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Until it denies 'your' team a goal or awards the opposition one which before VAR would not have been the case! I agree that it does ludicrous that a player can be half an inch offside, but that is an area where VAR deals with facts only, not opinion or assumption.
No, I hate VAR and will not repeat my tirade against it again, but be assured I find it repulsive regardless of the outcome. I hate it all.
 

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Luton Town 2 Reading 3

Once again playing badly, just waited for the other team to make mistakes which they did three times so we took the points! Can't believe our luck this season.
 

Haywain

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Luton Town 2 Reading 3

Once again playing badly, just waited for the other team to make mistakes which they did three times so we took the points! Can't believe our luck this season.
Absolutely shambolic defending in the late stages of the game. Deserved everything we got for failing to take advantage of a defence that made ours look competent.
 

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That isn't my point

My point is that what Wenger is proposing will not fix the perceived problems of the current system. It amazes me that he doesn't see this, but then he has form for "I did not see ze incident"

It's nothing to do with the fact that there will still be arguments if Wenger's rule was adopted.

The idea of the offside rule is to stop "johnny-lining" - that is forwards all piling into the 6-yard box, like they now do at corners.

In my book, you should be onside if there are two or more defenders either level with you, or between you and the goal line, when the ball is played forwards towards you from the back by one of your own players.

"Level" to me means overlap between players which I would define as overlap between any part of torso.

The other thing about the modern game which really p***s me off is the number of substitutes allowed and the number of players who waste their Saturday afternoons warning up benches instead of playing at lower levels.
 

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Watched Dover Athletic at Hampton & Richmond. We were terrible and lost 2-1 without a shot on target (our goal was a cross that flew in).

Last week we also failed to register a shot on target as well drawing 1-1. That was an own goal.
 

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Well, well, there is nothing quite as pathetic as a failed Panenka, is there? That was a shocker for Brentford tonight. Something tells me Keith Andrews isn't a Panenka sort of guy......so I think he might be having words with Ouattara after that!

In other news, Celtic and Rangers fans demonstrated yesterday just exactly why it's high time someone else won the league. What a complete disgrace and an embarrassment to Scotland they are.
 

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In other news, Celtic and Rangers fans demonstrated yesterday just exactly why it's high time someone else won the league. What a complete disgrace and an embarrassment to Scotland they are.
You can remove the "Celtic and" from that sentence. Despite the idiots that ran onto the pitch to celebrate in front of the Broomloan stand, I don't remember any Celtic fans running the length of the pitch to throw lit flares into the opposition seating. I watched Rangers "fans" do exactly that. I know it suits the pearl-clutchers in the media (and on here) to paint a false equivalence between the two sets of supporters ("two cheeks" and all that) but there really is no comparison.

THC
 

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Hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of damage caused by the mhob in the Broomland Road stand the photos are out there for all to see and I'll certainly not be posting any link to them as it is the usual display of bigoted filth.. The money for the repairs will be paid for by the cut due to them in gate receipts and i hopefully not one of them ever darkens the doors of Ibrox Park ever again.
 

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You can remove the "Celtic and" from that sentence. Despite the idiots that ran onto the pitch to celebrate in front of the Broomloan stand, I don't remember any Celtic fans running the length of the pitch to throw lit flares into the opposition seating. I watched Rangers "fans" do exactly that. I know it suits the pearl-clutchers in the media (and on here) to paint a false equivalence between the two sets of supporters ("two cheeks" and all that) but there really is no comparison.

THC

Were the ones in the blue balaclavas for real or was it some sort of spoof for a Dom Joly type programme?
 

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You can remove the "Celtic and" from that sentence. Despite the idiots that ran onto the pitch to celebrate in front of the Broomloan stand, I don't remember any Celtic fans running the length of the pitch to throw lit flares into the opposition seating. I watched Rangers "fans" do exactly that. I know it suits the pearl-clutchers in the media (and on here) to paint a false equivalence between the two sets of supporters ("two cheeks" and all that) but there really is no comparison.

THC
the award for the most one eyed post goes to..................

( we all saw what went on.)
 

1D54

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And talking of trouble and Rangers what a day Joey Barton is having. Ordered to pay Eni Aluko, a former England women international £300k in damages for the usual nonsense he spouts on X and up in court (in custody) charged with wounding with intent at Prescot Golf Club on Sunday. Without a doubt he is along with Ian Black the worst player to represent the club in modern times and that really is saying something!
 

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I'd just like to congratulate Igor Tudor on the excellent start he has made to his Tottenham Hotspurts career. Long may this fantastic run of results continue
 

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Yet again a clueless Chelsea defence concede idiotic goals compounded by the fact the club don’t have a goalkeeper that’s up to it or decent centre halves, back line changes game to game & that doesn’t help at all.

PSG were not outstanding but did their job more than adequately, annoyingly Chelsea didn’t play badly with a few excellent counter attacks but look at the scoreline :'(

Well that’s £70+ for the second leg ticket down the drain but your team is your team at the end of the day.
 

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Yet again a clueless Chelsea defence concede idiotic goals compounded by the fact the club don’t have a goalkeeper that’s up to it or decent centre halves, back line changes game to game & that doesn’t help at all.

PSG were not outstanding but did their job more than adequately, annoyingly Chelsea didn’t play badly with a few excellent counter attacks but look at the scoreline :'(

Well that’s £70+ for the second leg ticket down the drain but your team is your team at the end of the day.
Not a good couple of days for goalkeepers in orange playing for English teams.

The journalists who wrote articles about how English teams are dominating Europe must be feeling a little silly now. 2 draws and 4 losses in the first legs.
 

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The journalists who wrote articles about how English teams are dominating Europe must be feeling a little silly now. 2 draws and 4 losses in the first legs.
Still Villa, Forest and Palace to play, but not a great week nonetheless.
 

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A Barcelona fan apparently showed up at St James’ Park Exeter on Tuesday night. He was given a free ticket for their match against Lincoln City, but had left by half time when club staff went to check on him. It seems he had travelled to London before getting a train to Exeter, presumably there was no ticket check or he’d have ended up with a penalty fare as well as missing his intended game.

The above is a summary compiled from multiple sources, link below is to a BBC report of the incident.


Fan attends wrong football stadium 366 miles away https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c309478l04go
 
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Haywain

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It seems he had travelled to London before getting a train to Exeter, presumably there was no ticket check or he’d have ended up with a penalty fare as well as missing his intended game.
Or he bought a ticket to St James Park Exeter, in which case his journey wouldn't have been queried at all.
 

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Granted, there was no mention of whether he already had a train ticket to Newcastle or whether he bought one to Exeter on arrival in London, but if the latter it’s still hard to see how he could get it so wrong and buy a train ticket to somewhere other than the town or city mentioned on his match ticket.
 

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...it’s still hard to see how he could get it so wrong and buy a train ticket to somewhere other than the town or city mentioned on his match ticket.
Assuming the story can be stood up, did the individual in question actually have any match ticket before setting off from London? :s
 

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