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No news from GTR since 2024- implications?

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567awe

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Hi all,
Firstly thanks for being such a helpful community. A couple of years ago I'd been asked to submit proof of Railcard by a GTR railway inspector. I could not show my digital Railcard because I did not have the app on me. I was given a witness statement if I remember correctly. I submitted evidence of my Railcard after going home within the next 14 days. I have not heard back from them since the last 17 months. Does it mean my case has been resolved? I've not received a letter or email from them.

I need to declare any convictions for my long term settlement visa and I'm not sure if this counts as an ongoing investigation since it's been 18 months. How do I get clarity on whether the case has been resolved?
 
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Hi all,
Firstly thanks for being such a helpful community. A couple of years ago I'd been asked to submit proof of Railcard by a GTR railway inspector. I could not show my digital Railcard because I did not have the app on me. I was given a witness statement if I remember correctly. I submitted evidence of my Railcard after going home within the next 14 days. I have not heard back from them since the last 17 months. Does it mean my case has been resolved? I've not received a letter or email from them.

I need to declare any convictions for my long term settlement visa and I'm not sure if this counts as an ongoing investigation since it's been 18 months. How do I get clarity on whether the case has been resolved?
Welcome.

Have you moved address or changed e mail address since the incident?

And just to check. You did have a valid railcard and did upload it at the time ? (Pretty sure that’s what you are saying of course)

And do you still have a copy of that railcard if you were asked to provide it again now?

I think you can consider this matter closed, but we could give you the GTR section’s contact details if you did want to write to them and ask for confirmation.

I think the key thing is your postal address. If anything had escalated eg eventually to a court then paperwork would have been sent from the court to that address. I suppose there’s the very remote potential of post getting lost but I suspect if it had court debt collectors would have turned up by now.
 

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The railway are out of time to prosecute you. And unless all communications have failed to reach you, they didn't prosecute you. On top of that, submitting details of your valid Railcard is well-established as a way to resolve the problem you had without a prosecution.

So if there's a yes/no question about 'Do you have any criminal convictions ' I think you could reasonably answer 'no'. If there's a free-entry box you might want to say something like 'In 2024 I was asked by a Govia Thameslink Railway inspector to submit a copy of my Railcard to validate a train ticket. I did so and have not heard further so I assume that this matter was resolved outside of the courts, and I don't have a criminal conviction.'
 

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The railway are out of time to prosecute you. And unless all communications have failed to reach you, they didn't prosecute you. On top of that, submitting details of your valid Railcard is well-established as a way to resolve the problem you had without a prosecution.

So if there's a yes/no question about 'Do you have any criminal convictions ' I think you could reasonably answer 'no'. If there's a free-entry box you might want to say something like 'In 2024 I was asked by a Govia Thameslink Railway inspector to submit a copy of my Railcard to validate a train ticket. I did so and have not heard further so I assume that this matter was resolved outside of the courts, and I don't have a criminal conviction.'
There's no way I'd be writing that if I had a valid railcard and submitted it, then heard nothing more about it, let alone a court case, let alone a conviction. It's simply a no. No further comment needed.

When I renew my car insurance I wouldn't write "I drove through a speed camera at 85 mph two years ago but I didnt receive a FPN so I must assume I have no convictions. I simply have no endorsements on my licence and that's all they need to know.
 

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There's no way I'd be writing that if I had a valid railcard and submitted it, then heard nothing more about it, let alone a court case, let alone a conviction. It's simply a no. No further comment needed.

When I renew my car insurance I wouldn't write "I drove through a speed camera at 85 mph two years ago but I didnt receive a FPN so I must assume I have no convictions. I simply have no endorsements on my licence and that's all they need to know.
Tend to agree with this regarding op’s question.
 

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There's no way I'd be writing that if I had a valid railcard and submitted it, then heard nothing more about it, let alone a court case, let alone a conviction. It's simply a no. No further comment needed.

When I renew my car insurance I wouldn't write "I drove through a speed camera at 85 mph two years ago but I didnt receive a FPN so I must assume I have no convictions. I simply have no endorsements on my licence and that's all they need to know.
This, basically. You do not get credit in life for being too honest.

If the OP is unsure they need to get specialist immigration advice.
 

johnny_t

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Hi all,
Firstly thanks for being such a helpful community. A couple of years ago I'd been asked to submit proof of Railcard by a GTR railway inspector. I could not show my digital Railcard because I did not have the app on me. I was given a witness statement if I remember correctly. I submitted evidence of my Railcard after going home within the next 14 days. I have not heard back from them since the last 17 months. Does it mean my case has been resolved? I've not received a letter or email from them.

I need to declare any convictions for my long term settlement visa and I'm not sure if this counts as an ongoing investigation since it's been 18 months. How do I get clarity on whether the case has been resolved?
If you genuinely held a railcard but couldn't show it because of 'app trouble' but later provided evidence of it (which is what I believe you are saying) then you're fine. No need to declare anything
 

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I need to declare any convictions for my long term settlement visa and I'm not sure if this counts as an ongoing investigation since it's been 18 months. How do I get clarity on whether the case has been resolved?
As others have said, it’s extremely likely the case is closed. However we have seen people successfully get confirmation of this by contacting the prosecutions team or customer services or both. They’re out of time to prosecute so the only, very very small, possibility is that they did prosecute and you weren’t made aware of it.
 
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