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GooseGuy
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Does anyone know if any images have been released yet of the new refurbished 220033 as the event should've started at around 11:00 am
Trainman40083
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Exactly. You found yourself having to take both, just in case you couldn't pay with one. On one occasion, the buffer guy couldn't accept card, so just shut up shop. Very soon, customers bought before they got on, and sales would drop
Small (ocd) bugbear of mine, but it’s a shame with refurbs or events like this little below the solebar is cleaned or tarted up these days. When the FGW Mk3s were repainted and refurbished in 2006/2007, the undercarriage was at least repainted on those. Even just for the press gig!
GooseGuy
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New livery is looking great, will be great to see this operating
The_Train
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Shame they didn't wedge them all into a vestibule for the real XC experience
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It’s hideous, frankly.
Rail Quest
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Interior pictures posted by XC on their Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/1000647062...bm16Y3DpSEL6CEnNmM8TM9nJAjZZ5KoUDKoq8zYjfvel/
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Because the refurbishment specification was baselined before the GBR livery was thrown together by the intern on their lunch break.
Because XC will A, be the last operation to go into GBR, and B, the official livery has not been decided or signed off yet. Mutterings around Westminster was that nobody liked the GBR interim launch livery and was described as something akin to “GBNews on Rails”.
The refurbishment is also part of a £75M investment in these by Beacon Rail.
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Rail Quest
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On the interior, I have to see it looks awfully clinical. Dark grey cloth and harsh white lighting is perhaps the least characterful combo possible. Perhaps the DfT wanted this so that, when GBR takes over XC, the interior branding won't look out of place.
GooseGuy
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I have heard that the seats being used for First Class are rock solid.
sabanda
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Standard looks genuinely decent, and I'm glad that you will no longer have to share a single power outlet between a pair of seats. I like the colour scheme and overall presentation in First but the seats themselves look like a massive downgrade.
trainmania100
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Anyone know what unit the refurb one Is? Can't see any numbers at all on the posted pics of the front...not sure if it's intentional.
sabanda
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GooseGuy
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Hopefully with the more ergonomic design of the seats and the seating arrangement, they have been able to squeeze more seats in. Hopefully more people can find somewhere to sit instead of being crammed in the vestibule or stuck in the accessible toilet.
A few more photos of the interior courtesy of Nodrog and a video of Alstom / Rail Express:
2 x External images of 220033 in its new XC livery
1 x First Class internal image showing the new seats and colour scheme
1 x Standard Class image showing the new seats and internal colour scheme
1 x Cab image
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2 x External images of 220033 in its new XC livery
1 x First Class internal image showing the new seats and colour scheme
1 x Standard Class image showing the new seats and internal colour scheme
1 x Cab image
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GooseGuy
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In the background of the internal first class image, is that another unit being refurbed or are the carriages split in the depot?A few more photos of the interior courtesy of Nodrog and a video of Alstom / Rail Express:
2 x External images of 220033 in its new XC livery
1 x First Class internal image showing the new seats and colour scheme
1 x Standard Class image showing the new seats and internal colour scheme
1 x Cab image
Good spot, I wonder if its unfinished? Possibly scheduled the press launch but the job got delayed?
Interestingly the first image in this post appears to show the transition taking place on the lead vehicle.
Bletchleyite
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The legroom looks terrible, and they've even gone and made it worse by shoving the sockets into the space between the seat backs where the knee of a particularly tall person could go.
Guess my boycott of XC continues indefinitely then. At least they are largely avoidable by going via London which is often quicker and cheaper anyway. Only if you want to go to Burton on Trent are you stuck with them, and even then there's (I think) an option of 170 worked services.
It's a classy colour scheme, I'll give them, but it looks like it won't be hugely more comfortable than a 150/2.
Given that it appears to be the same long folding tables as the 810, portlier gentlemen will have trouble pulling the tables down too!
i hope so! looks really off putting without it in my opinion
Can’t see anything on this image from Today’s Railways, so perhaps the Avanti esq details have been dropped.
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Steddenm
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That aisle in standard class looks a tight fit. As a lot of the population are, shall we say, above average size, I can see this becoming an issue especially when full and standing.A few more photos of the interior courtesy of Nodrog and a video of Alstom / Rail Express:
2 x External images of 220033 in its new XC livery
1 x First Class internal image showing the new seats and colour scheme
1 x Standard Class image showing the new seats and internal colour scheme
1 x Cab image
The livery in my opinion, looks slightly odd, red, grey, grey, red... I don't think it flows very well.
Bletchleyite
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Legroom looks poor (bad choice of seat for that, plus the sockets are in the way of a possible knee position for a tall person) and the tables are the long version used on 810s which I can barely pull down without hitting my gut (which will be worse on these as the pitch is tighter than 810s). And while I'm big I'm not that big.
It looks like the 196 in a way - a nice looking environment but terrible design in terms of the physical product.
It does seem like we're seeing a spate of this sort of "looks nice but not very thought through" design - the 196, the 720, the 777...
Yeah I'm not a fan. The cab end Xs being beigey white also make them look like they're covered in brake dust. While having different vehicles different colours makes it look like a scratch set the depot has thrown together because they haven't got a full unit that works.
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Trainman40083
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Just look at the position of those grab handles on one of the picturesA few more photos of the interior courtesy of Nodrog and a video of Alstom / Rail Express:
2 x External images of 220033 in its new XC livery
1 x First Class internal image showing the new seats and colour scheme
1 x Standard Class image showing the new seats and internal colour scheme
1 x Cab image