East Yorkshire Motor Services, now part of Go-Ahead

[YorkRailFan]

A change of leadership might help EY, fresh eyes and fresh ideas to bring to the table

I hope so, the current trajectory of EY has been far from good.

 

[Russel]

Too soon to say really as the news has only broken today

He's been around long enough to make a judgement based on how he's performed though.

 

[Fox192]

When are the electrics entering service, gne had there’s on road within days

 

[EYFanatic]

What is the general feeling about this, good, bad, indifferent?

Speaking as a passenger, for me this is good news

 

[Zenneth101]

When are the electrics entering service, gne had there’s on road within days

Considering the routes they're supposed to be going on are getting service changes (51, 56, 58 iirc) on the 15th February, I'd assume around that time, plus that gives EY a few weeks for testing, charging training etc.

 

[JeffBus]

I'm a bit surprised that Stuart Fillingham wasn't promoted from Commercial Director to Managing Director.

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To be honest, Ben Gilligan isn't leaving EY in the best state. There is a lot of work for Matt Ashton ahead.

Do you think you need to see somebody about your obsession with Fillingham?

 

[YorkRailFan]

Do you think you need to see somebody about your obsession with Fillingham?

What obsession? I simply stated my surprise that he (as a higher up at EY) wasn't promoted. I've only ever mentioned him otherwise when quoting regarding service changes. I think you may have confused me with someone else...

 

[Fox192]

What obsession? I simply stated my surprise that he (as a higher up at EY) wasn't promoted. I've only ever mentioned him otherwise when quoting regarding service changes. I think you may have confused me with someone else...

Its Probably due to trying something new, can bring something different to the company

 

[JeffBus]

What obsession? I simply stated my surprise that he (as a higher up at EY) wasn't promoted. I've only ever mentioned him otherwise when quoting regarding service changes. I think you may have confused me with someone else...

Maybe he didn't want it!

 

[YorkRailFan]

Its Probably due to trying something new, can bring something different to the company

I hope Ashton can bring that to the table.

Maybe he didn't want it!

Fair enough.

 

[KHCT]

Ben Gilligan is leaving EY to become MD at GNE.

Always curious to understand what qualifies people like this to move on to a 'bigger' role. His time at EY, from a customer point of view, has hardly been a success. The bean counters must be happy.

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econd, I presume that in the past this was before the funding was cut and what is now M1/M3 was operated as the ME1

Not at all. In the last year that EY operated the ME1 it shuttled between Helmsley and Pickering. If memory serves me correctly, in 2024 the M3 was worked by Hodgsons and York Pullman.

 

[Trainman40083]

Always curious to understand what qualifies people like this to move on to a 'bigger' role. His time at EY, from a customer point of view, has hardly been a success. The bean counters must be happy.

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Not at all. In the last year that EY operated the ME1 it shuttled between Helmsley and Pickering. If memory serves me correctly, in 2024 the M3 was worked by Hodgsons and York Pullman.

Well, in terms of your first comment...In my days on the railway, people got "promotions" because their existing management wanted rid of them. Trouble is, that meant the really good staff got stuck because they were good at their job. They usually ended up leaving, sought by head hunters. Yep, I got a call from them too. Now you say "from a customer point of view". Set that against delivering the goals and objectives of the owners. The two may be different.. Maybe they should be aligned.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Not at all. In the last year that EY operated the ME1 it shuttled between Helmsley and Pickering. If memory serves me correctly, in 2024 the M3 was worked by Hodgsons and York Pullman

In 2024, the M3 was solely worked by Hodgsons, with York Pullman working the M6 (which shadowed the M3 between Pickering & Danby thanks to a diversion near Rosedale), and York Pullman & Hodgsons both worked the M7 to Thornton-le-Dale.

Looking at the network map for this Summer, I think Hull's link to Helmsley will return, with EY operating the M1 to Pickering and then the M7 to Helmlsey on Sundays & Bank Holidays.

 

[Jimmi]

Looking at the network map for this Summer, I think Hull's link to Helmsley will return, with EY operating the M1 to Pickering and then the M7 to Helmlsey on Sundays & Bank Holidays.

Imagine that will be the case for Sunday's with Arriva doing the majority/all M3 journeys as double deckers can't get under the bridge at Castleton Moor Rail Station when running to/from Guisborough. I reckon EY will likely still do the M3 between Pickering and Danby on Saturdays with Arriva (or whoever) doing a trip from Guisborough to Danby running on/off the M4/M5 board.

 

[Delenn]

Imagine that will be the case for Sunday's with Arriva doing the majority/all M3 journeys as double deckers can't get under the bridge at Castleton Moor Rail Station when running to/from Guisborough. I reckon EY will likely still do the M3 between Pickering and Danby on Saturdays with Arriva (or whoever) doing a trip from Guisborough to Danby running on/off the M4/M5 board.

I believe EY are basically doing what they did last year between the Hull runs, only on Saturday too.

 

[Cesarcollie]

Always curious to understand what qualifies people like this to move on to a 'bigger' role. His time at EY, from a customer point of view, has hardly been a success. The bean counters must be happy.

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Not at all. In the last year that EY operated the ME1 it shuttled between Helmsley and Pickering. If memory serves me correctly, in 2024 the M3 was worked by Hodgsons and York Pullman.

In what way has he not been a success from a customer point of view? If you mean some customers have been adversely affected by actions he has overseen, I’m afraid that’s one of the perils of running a business. On this basis, no bank management would have been promoted for many years, as virtually all local branches have been closed. I and many others find this very inconvenient. Does this mean the management in question are bad at their jobs? Of course not! They are running a business and have to balance many competing demands - customers, other stakeholders, local politicians, shareholders, their boss, etc etc. I’m guessing you’ve never been in a senior management role?!

 

[Trainman40083]

In what way has he not been a success from a customer point of view? If you mean some customers have been adversely affected by actions he has overseen, I’m afraid that’s one of the perils of running a business. On this basis, no bank management would have been promoted for many years, as virtually all local branches have been closed. I and many others find this very inconvenient. Does this mean the management in question are bad at their jobs? Of course not! They are running a business and have to balance many competing demands - customers, other stakeholders, local politicians, shareholders, their boss, etc etc. I’m guessing you’ve never been in a senior management role?!

Even the staff employed... Being in a senior management role, you never please everyone.

 

[Eyersey468]

In what way has he not been a success from a customer point of view? If you mean some customers have been adversely affected by actions he has overseen, I’m afraid that’s one of the perils of running a business. On this basis, no bank management would have been promoted for many years, as virtually all local branches have been closed. I and many others find this very inconvenient. Does this mean the management in question are bad at their jobs? Of course not! They are running a business and have to balance many competing demands - customers, other stakeholders, local politicians, shareholders, their boss, etc etc. I’m guessing you’ve never been in a senior management role?!

The problem under the Shipps was Peter ran it more as a hobby than a business, it was inevitable whoever bought it that things would change and some loss making routes would go

 

[BusPerson2025]

Electric buses official list:

20311 MA75 CMF
20312 MA75 CMK
20313 MA75 CMO
20314 MA75 CMU
20315 MA75 CMV
20316 MA75 CMX
20317 MA75 CMY
20318 MA75 CMZ
20319 MA75 CNE
20320 MA75 CNF
20321 MA75 CNG

20930 MF75 ENV
20931 MF75 ENW
20932 MF75 ENX
20933 MF75 ENY
20934 MF75 EOA
20935 MF75 EOB
20936 MF75 EOC
20937 MF75 EOD
20938 MF75 EOE
20939 MF75 EOF

 

[Fox192]

Electric buses official list:

20311 MA75 CMF
20312 MA75 CMK
20313 MA75 CMO
20314 MA75 CMU
20315 MA75 CMV
20316 MA75 CMX
20317 MA75 CMY
20318 MA75 CMZ
20319 MA75 CNE
20320 MA75 CNF
20321 MA75 CNG

20930 MF75 ENV
20931 MF75 ENW
20932 MF75 ENX
20933 MF75 ENY
20934 MF75 EOA
20935 MF75 EOB
20936 MF75 EOC
20937 MF75 EOD
20938 MF75 EOE
20939 MF75 EOF

20939 is EOG

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

In what way has he not been a success from a customer point of view? If you mean some customers have been adversely affected by actions he has overseen, I’m afraid that’s one of the perils of running a business. On this basis, no bank management would have been promoted for many years, as virtually all local branches have been closed. I and many others find this very inconvenient. Does this mean the management in question are bad at their jobs? Of course not! They are running a business and have to balance many competing demands - customers, other stakeholders, local politicians, shareholders, their boss, etc etc. I’m guessing you’ve never been in a senior management role?!

Even the staff employed... Being in a senior management role, you never please everyone.

The problem under the Shipps was Peter ran it more as a hobby than a business, it was inevitable whoever bought it that things would change and some loss making routes would go

One of the things that gets my goat.

I don't know Ben Gilligan so I have "no dog in the fight" but I see so many enthusiasts berating senior management. Now undoubtedly, some mistakes do get made - that is human nature, and there are senior people who have made big errors either on grounds of hubris and/or ambition. People have failings and that is true between the corporate world and the little independent.

However, managers will have to take decisions where there is no good option, just the least worst (and that can be objective). So many times, we see mention of "bean counters" - guess what... companies are commercial organisations and they have to make money. Accountants will give you the information and then you have to work out what to do!

Without sharing my full CV, PIN No and inside leg measurement, I've had a lot of experience in the corporate world - some good bosses, some bad ones. I've had to make commercial decisions involving millions of pounds, as well as tough decisions that affect people's livelihoods. You can't please everyone.

ps three of my cohort at university became senior bus company managers (e.g. MD, Ops Dir, Comm Dir levels). All were keen enthusiasts as kids, and joined bus companies because they were genuinely interested. Over time, their wide-eyed idealism has been tempered by the realism of what it's like to deal with local authorities (who also have compromises in terms of finances and priorities), corporate expectations from shareholders, increasing regulatory demands, trades unions, educational establishments and so on. When I see some comments on threads from individuals, I do think... if only you actually knew what it's like. I think it was the American comedian George Burns who summed it up best..... "Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and cutting hair."

 

[Trainman40083]

One of the things that gets my goat.

I don't know Ben Gilligan so I have "no dog in the fight" but I see so many enthusiasts berating senior management. Now undoubtedly, some mistakes do get made - that is human nature, and there are senior people who have made big errors either on grounds of hubris and/or ambition. People have failings and that is true between the corporate world and the little independent.

However, managers will have to take decisions where there is no good option, just the least worst (and that can be objective). So many times, we see mention of "bean counters" - guess what... companies are commercial organisations and they have to make money. Accountants will give you the information and then you have to work out what to do!

Without sharing my full CV, PIN No and inside leg measurement, I've had a lot of experience in the corporate world - some good bosses, some bad ones. I've had to make commercial decisions involving millions of pounds, as well as tough decisions that affect people's livelihoods. You can't please everyone.

ps three of my cohort at university became senior bus company managers (e.g. MD, Ops Dir, Comm Dir levels). All were keen enthusiasts as kids, and joined bus companies because they were genuinely interested. Over time, their wide-eyed idealism has been tempered by the realism of what it's like to deal with local authorities (who also have compromises in terms of finances and priorities), corporate expectations from shareholders, increasing regulatory demands, trades unions, educational establishments and so on. When I see some comments on threads from individuals, I do think... if only you actually knew what it's like. I think it was the American comedian George Burns who summed it up best..... "Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and cutting hair."

Well said.... As a friend of mine once said about the rail industry... The only experience some critics have of running a railway, is a wooden Brio one. They have no idea.

 

[BusPerson2025]

20939 is EOG

Ik I was a bit distracted typing that

 

[Fox192]

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The combined authority taking over buses in Hull, Will this change anything?

 

[Leyland Bus]

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The combined authority taking over buses in Hull, Will this change anything?

I'll add the direct link rather than having to transition through FarceBook.

Timeline discussed for Hull and East Yorkshire's public transport takeover

The new Combined Authority will take on the responsibility for public transport in the region

www.hulldailymail.co.uk

A timeline for the transition of power for public transport in Hull and East Yorkshire has been approved in principle. The new Hull and East Yorkshire Combined Authority (HEYCA), headed by Mayor Luke Campbell, is to take over from both Hull City Council and East Riding Council as the body responsible for public transport in the region. Plans for a phased transition have been approved in principle by HEYCA's Executive Board. The phased approach will see most functions being transferred to HEYCA by October 2026, with a full transition expected by March 2027. A report to the board explains that from 30 March 2026, HEYCA will officially assume transport responsibilities from a legal standpoint. However, the actual functions will take time to transfer. An immediate full transfer of all functions this Spring was discounted as a potential option as "it would introduce significant delivery and operational risk during a period of major change in national funding and assurance requirements, require rapid organisational scaling ahead of confirmed capacity and systems being in place, and increase the risk of disruption to passengers, operators and delivery programmes", the report says. The phased approach is seen as a way of reducing risk and managing continuity for passengers and operators.

 

[KHCT]

In what way has he not been a success from a customer point of view? If you mean some customers have been adversely affected by actions he has overseen, I’m afraid that’s one of the perils of running a business. On this basis, no bank management would have been promoted for many years, as virtually all local branches have been closed. I and many others find this very inconvenient. Does this mean the management in question are bad at their jobs? Of course not! They are running a business and have to balance many competing demands - customers, other stakeholders, local politicians, shareholders, their boss, etc etc. I’m guessing you’ve never been in a senior management role?!

Well, your guess would be wrong; I've had senior roles in both the public and private sectors and am well aware of competing demands. Perhaps you could tell us how EY is a success from a customer point of view? I see service reductions, frequency reductions, an older fleet with little investment, poor communication with the app not updated with cancellations, no interaction on social media and the in-person service desk closed down. The only real improvement I see are the service increases on the A1079 corridor. On the flip side, a quick look at Companies House shows that EY is far more profitable than it was in Shipp's days, which is why the 'bean counters' will be happy.

 

[Zenneth101]

An unidentified MMC is in the new livery

Probably 20919 as its been out of use since 2025 (could also be 20923 but the stickers next to dest board are same as 20919 from what I've seen of the new livery MMC)

 

[BusPerson2025]

An unidentified MMC is in the new livery

Probably 20919 as its been out of use since 2025 (could also be 20923 but the stickers next to dest board are same as 20919 from what I've seen of the new livery MMC)

Where did u see that picture

 

[YorkRailFan]

An unidentified MMC is in the new livery

Probably 20919 as its been out of use since 2025 (could also be 20923 but the stickers next to dest board are same as 20919 from what I've seen of the new livery MMC)

Could be 20923, but I'd be surprised if EY were to repaint buses out of the Eastrider livery, especially as it has branding for a popular route (X46) and EY does love route branding. It would make more sense for the generic livered 20919 to get the new livery in my opinion.

 

[BusPerson2025]

An unidentified MMC is in the new livery

Probably 20919 as its been out of use since 2025 (could also be 20923 but the stickers next to dest board are same as 20919 from what I've seen of the new livery MMC)

Does it have tables??? If yes then it is 20923