Standedge Tunnel Fire 25/1

[Fokx]

Northern are now running hourly Brighouse-Huddersfield buses, to connect out of the Leeds-Wigan Wallgate service.

They're permanent bustitutions.

They connect to the Bradford - Leeds local station service which is a combination of the Huddersfield to Leeds via Ravensthorpe service and Huddersfield to Bradford service

 

[D1537]

Why on earth is the Network Rail disruption video still talking about disruption between Rochdale and Manchester? Yes, the Leeds-Man Vic services are cancelled but that's still a 5tph service. It's simply confusing.

 

[mm333]

They're permanent bustitutions.

They connect to the Bradford - Leeds local station service which is a combination of the Huddersfield to Leeds via Ravensthorpe service and Huddersfield to Bradford service

Thank you for correcting my post.

 

[Fokx]

Services changes have started to appear for tomorrow on the service updates section of the Transpennine Express Website.

Liverpool to Hull is being split and will operate Liverpool to Manchester (calling additionally at Newton Le Willows) and Leeds to Hull only

Airport to Redcar will terminate at Middlesbrough (and call additionally at Brighouse)

Manchester to Scarborough will operate York to Scarborough only

Newcastle to Liverpool will operate in full but run express between Liverpool and Manchester, Manchester and Leeds

The Manchester to York stopping service amendments haven't been published but I would expect Manchester to Stalybridge and Marsden to York

 

[Peterthegreat]

Services changes have started to appear for tomorrow on the service updates section of the Transpennine Express Website.

Liverpool to Hull is being split and will operate Liverpool to Manchester (calling additionally at Newton Le Willows) and Leeds to Hull only

Airport to Redcar will terminate at Middlesbrough (and call additionally at Brighouse)

Manchester to Scarborough will operate York to Scarborough only

Newcastle to Liverpool will operate on full but run express between Liverpool and Manchester, Manchester and Leeds

The Manchester to York stopping service amendments haven't been published but I would expect Manchester to Stalybridge and Marsden to York

And Northern are saying a full (Northern) service via the Calder Valley.

 

[ainsworth74]

Airport to Redcar will terminate at Middlesbrough (and call additionally at Brighouse)

Presumably they're expecting those to be running persistently 15/20 down by the time they get to Middlesbrough (meaning terminating short is the only real way to recover the back working).

And Northern are saying a full (Northern) service via the Calder Valley.

Which is presumably why TPE are having to chop their service up a bit more than they did today I guess?

 

[dodecahedron67]

Greenfield to Picc shuttles, nothing published yet for East side stoppers. Hopefully cancelled so I can get home early

 

[llewjones]

Presumably the differences being down to having more time to plan, whilst there was shorter notice around today's changes, given as of yesterday the line was expected to be open today.

Perhaps disappointing that the Hull services don't terminate at Hudds rather than Leeds - which would have provided a through Leeds - Hudds service. But understandable that there will be constraints in trying to meet multiple needs.

 

[Killingworth]

TransPennine update to Stakeholders at 9.15

Update: Fire damage to a tunnel affecting TransPennine Express services

Network Rail repairs to Standedge Tunnel are continuing although it is likely that the through route will remain closed until the morning of Thursday 29th January. TransPennine Express services therefore remain affected until further notice, with services where possible diverted over the Calder Valley or operated by rail replacement buses.

TransPennine Express train services for the affected part of the network on Tuesday 27th January will operate in both directions as outlined below (this includes amendments to those that operated today):

• York - Scarborough
• Leeds – Hull
• Liverpool Lime Street – Manchester Victoria calling additionally at Newton-le-Willows
• Liverpool Lime Street – Newcastle (this service will not call at Newton-le-Willows)
• Manchester Airport – Middlesborough (this service will not call at Redcar Central or Saltburn)
• Manchester Piccadilly – Greenfield calling at Stalybridge and Mossley (limited AM and PM peak service)
• Marsden – York via Wakefield Kirkgate (limited AM and PM peak service)
• Rail replacement services will operate on the following routes:
  • Stalybridge-Huddersfield calling at Mossley, Greenfield, Slaithwaite and Marsden
  • Huddersfield-Manchester Piccadilly calling at Marsden, Slaithwaite, Greenfield, Mossley and Stalybridge
  • Dewsbury-Huddersfield
  • Huddersfield-Dewsbury
  • Customers at Huddersfield are advised to travel to Dewsbury and connect into train services towards Leeds and Manchester
  • Customers at Manchester who require Huddersfield are advised where possible to travel from Manchester Victoria and alight at Dewsbury and transfer to the rail replacement services from there to Huddersfield
  • Customers at Leeds who require Huddersfield are advised to go via Sheffield or alight at Dewsbury and board the rail replacement services provided

Service running will be monitored and reviewed through the day with amendments made if required. Services may therefore be cancelled, part cancelled or operate at short notice. Customers are advised to check the status of their service before travelling.

Ticket acceptance remains in place with Northern, CrossCountry, EMR, LNER and Metrolink as follows:

• Northern (between Huddersfield and Sheffield, Leeds and Sheffield and Huddersfield/Mirfield and Leeds)
• CrossCountry (between Leeds and Sheffield)
• EMR (between Sheffield and Manchester Piccadilly/Liverpool Lime Street)
• LNER (between York and Doncaster)
• Metrolink (between Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Victoria/Manchester Airport)

Further updates will be issued however for the very latest position and travel advice please visit: https://www.tpexpress.co.uk/travel-updates

We apologise for the disruption this incident has caused. Please let us know if you have any queries.

 

[D1537]

Perhaps disappointing that the Hull services don't terminate at Hudds rather than Leeds - which would have provided a through Leeds - Hudds service. But understandable that there will be constraints in trying to meet multiple needs.

There is an hourly Marsden-York service at peak hours. I'd suspect the 07:30 Marsden-York is going to be quite cosy tomorrow.

Edit: forget that, I've just noticed it goes via Kirkgate! So no direct Hudds-Leeds services apart from the 05:53... the M62 will be a hoot.

 

[AndyHudds]

Customers at Leeds who require Huddersfield are advised to go via Sheffield...are they nuts? Why are they giving such shocking advice? Only go that way if you want to get home from work at midnight.

 

[D1537]

Customers at Leeds who require Huddersfield are advised to go via Sheffield...are they nuts? Why are they giving such shocking advice? Only go that way if you want to get home from work at midnight.

Especially when you could just go via Barnsley ... still a bit of a trek though.

 

[800Travel]

TransPennine update to Stakeholders at 9.15

Guessing these stakeholder emails aren't available to sign up to as a member of the public? They seem very informative and contain clear and helpful info.

 

[Killingworth]

Guessing these stakeholder emails aren't available to sign up to as a member of the public? They seem very informative and contain clear and helpful info.

It's very similar to what appears on the National Rail website under disruptions. Similarly on TOCs own sites. That is potentially more up to date.

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/stalybridge-20260125/

There was a fire in Standedge Tunnel on Sunday 25 January. Once the fire had been extinguished, damage to the tunnel structure was discovered that requires extensive repair work before the tunnel can be deemed safe for the passage of trains again.

As a result of this, some lines in the area are currently closed. Trains running between Huddersfield and Manchester Victoria are the most heavily impacted by this issue and will either be cancelled, delayed, revised or diverted via an alternative route, where this is possible. Northern services between Leeds and Manchester Victoria via Rochdale will be cancelled to allow trains to use this diversionary route.

For the remainder of the day today, both Northern and TransPennine Express services will be impacted by this issue. However, from the start of service tomorrow, Northern expect to be able to run their full timetable. TransPennine Express services are expected to continue to be impacted through until at least Thursday of this week.

Major disruption is expected to continue until 06:00 on Thursday 29 January.

 

[YorkshireBear]

I've noticed Northern Huddersfield to Leeds shuttles calling at Dewsbury only running this morning. Feels a sensible addition as the lack of direct Leeds to Huddersfield service for me seems to be a big omission considering it's only stanedge tunnel. I am sure they have turned services there in engineering work, but I suspect I am missing something....

Single unit, a 150, doing a shuttle each hour. Taking just under half an hour each way with tight turnarounds. That will be cosy!

 

[LittleAH]

The lack of information for those travelling in and out of Huddersfield is quite alarming. My friend who makes that journey daily is so annoyed he’s just gone by car.

 

[TUC]

The lack of information for those travelling in and out of Huddersfield is quite alarming. My friend who makes that journey daily is so annoyed he’s just gone by car.

It is odd that the NRE page makes no mention of the Huddersfield-Leeds Northern services referenced above.

 

[YorkshireBear]

Why are York to Manchester Via Castleford withdrawn in their entirety? During long blockades they turn them at Wakefield. And have turned them at Huddersfield. Seems weird to only run the peak services and withdraw them for most of the day.

 

[dodecahedron67]

Why are York to Manchester Via Castleford withdrawn in their entirety? During long blockades they turn them at Wakefield. And have turned them at Huddersfield. Seems weird to only run the peak services and withdraw them for most of the day.

There are a number of duties where guards/drivers are booked to take one across the pennines, have a break and then bring another stopper back.

For example, York crew take the 1058 York to Picc via Wakefield. They then are supposed to have a 2h20 break before bringing the 1600 back to York.

It causes havoc with the diagrams to run shuttles all day and control/planning will be up to their eyes with this disruption anyway. The stoppers are probably the lowest priority services to run, as outside of Stalybridge - Mirfield, every other station has another service there (albeit I accept Mirfield - Wakefield on GC is sporadic)

 

[YorkshireBear]

There are a number of duties where guards/drivers are booked to take one across the pennines, have a break and then bring another stopper back.

For example, York crew take the 1058 York to Picc via Wakefield. They then are supposed to have a 2h20 break before bringing the 1600 back to York.

It causes havoc with the diagrams to run shuttles all day and control/planning will be up to their eyes with this disruption anyway. The stoppers are probably the lowest priority services to run, as outside of Stalybridge - Mirfield, every other station has another service there (albeit I accept Mirfield - Wakefield on GC is sporadic)

Thanks for that. At least provides a good reason.

 

[Cell2025]

Currently on my correct train Liverpool to Leeds, but of course it's finishing at Victoria. Loads of cancellations. Seems much worse than yesterday. I should be able to get a Calder Valley service at Victoria, but won't hold my breath.

 

[Andyh82]

They’ll be hoping the Calder valley doesn’t get closed for flooding with it being the only route open

 

[AndyHudds]

It is odd that the NRE page makes no mention of the Huddersfield-Leeds Northern services referenced above.

Just checked and they are on NRE, xx.15 thry depart.

 

[TUC]

Just checked and they are on NRE, xx.15 thry depart.

I can't see it on here https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/stalybridge-20260125/

 

[Angmering1974]

Can't even run an hourly RRB to Marsden/Greenfield etc...? There's no 1pm on the timetable, just 12pm and 2pm. Guessing it's the drivers lunch or something lol.

(Edit: for the avoidance of doubt: this is NOT a criticism of a human needing food but of the railway not having enough provision)

 

[KN94]

Can't even run an hourly RRB to Marsden/Greenfield etc...? There's no 1pm on the timetable, just 12pm and 2pm. Guessing it's the drivers lunch or something lol.

(Edit: for the avoidance of doubt: this is NOT a criticism of a human needing food but of the railway not having enough provision)

Or maybe the bus / driver that would be doing the 13:00 has a pre-existing journey for another contract?

I'd say it's quite impressive that they've managed to get what they have got on relatively short notice. The block at Huddersfield last September will have taken months of discussions to cover all rail replacements, never mind doing so on a few days notice whilst trying to navigate the existing services the bus companies will have to maintain.

As for railway provision, unless they go around purchasing hundreds/thousands of buses at some cost, there will always be struggles sourcing vehicles, especially in disruption.

 

[weastebusdepot]

Can't even run an hourly RRB to Marsden/Greenfield etc...? There's no 1pm on the timetable, just 12pm and 2pm. Guessing it's the drivers lunch or something lol.

(Edit: for the avoidance of doubt: this is NOT a criticism of a human needing food but of the railway not having enough provision)

The 1pm HUD-MAN service is running. Just seems to be missing from the journey planners.

 

[Angmering1974]

The 1pm HUD-MAN service is running. Just seems to be missing from the journey planners.

Oh right thanks. Very helpful for it to be omitted from the planner...

Took a taxi in the end as I'd had enough today (plus the RRB stop is further away)

 

[D1537]

Meanwhile, in TPE news, 9E05 05:20 Liverpool-Newcastle ran fast from York to Newcastle because it was 30 late at York. That's the main morning commuter train from Northallerton to Darlington, Durham and Newcastle. It appears that, unlike normal routine, no LNER was stopped to deal with it either. The next train northbound from Northallerton was LNER's 1N01 some 75 minutes after 9E05 should have left.

 

[43095john]

Track Defect reported near Todmorden as well causing major delays on the Calder Valley

Some TPEs running over 60 late this afternoon