Should there be an Oxford South Parkway station?

[Bletchleyite]

In a discussion elsewhere about Oxford and the issues surrounding traffic at the station and the congestion charge/bus gates, and it occurred to me - why not do what was done for Cambridge? We obviously already have Oxford Parkway for those heading towards the Chiltern route, but this isn't the main service to London nor is it served by XC etc, nor does it have convenient connections to the Westcountry etc unless you make an extra change at Oxford.

So should there be an Oxford South Parkway built? I think it would make a lot of sense to construct this near the Botley interchange Redbridge P&R, ideally adjacent to and combining function with the existing Park and Ride site. It could have all trains stopping and basically divert all the park and ride and "kiss and ride" rail use for services to London and services to the north not relevant to the present Oxford Parkway away from the busy city centre?

 

[Topological]

I was trying to identify Botley Interchange.

However, there looks to be a suitable site just near where the Oxford Southern Bypass leaves the A34. It already has a park and ride bus. There is a household waste site, but those can be moved.

Maybe the only train not to stop would be the CrossCountry.

Suspect this all falls foul of the "every train must be stop as few times as possible" brigade though.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I was trying to identify Botley Interchange.

At the junction of the A34 and A423, or around there. Sorry, should have been clearer.

However, there looks to be a suitable site just near where the Oxford Southern Bypass leaves the A34. It already has a park and ride bus. There is a household waste site, but those can be moved.

Yes, it's the P&R site. As per Oxford Parkway, integration with that would be a positive for a few reasons - one that it provides added P&R capacity for those who'd choose to travel in by rail, another that it already has a big car park and no objections to there being a big car park, another that the P&R buses also at some times of day offer a stopping service so people could travel there by bus for the station. Thus I'd move the tip but not the P&R site.

Maybe the only train not to stop would be the CrossCountry.

I'd stop that as well. It might also function as a better interchange than Oxford "City" which has a fairly cramped arrangement of platforms, poor facilities and an inadequate footbridge. You'd basically be reducing the central station to a role primarily aimed at people going to/from Oxford city centre or intending to continue onwards by some means other than car.

Suspect this all falls foul of the "every train must be stop as few times as possible" brigade though.

It might, I suppose, but it doesn't really differ that much from basically all trains going over Castlefield stopping at both Oxford Road and Piccadilly, or Avanti now serving both Lime St and South Parkway in Liverpool (though admittedly only with some trains, though that is more a platform length practicality issue - I do reckon if it had 260m platforms they might well stop both).

Actually a better analogy might be Stockport and Manchester Piccadilly. Yes, Stockport is a place in its own right, but a very high proportion of its usage is park and ride - it is in effect a "Manchester South and Cheshire North Parkway" for a good many users and on some trains has more boarding than Piccadilly does. It's all on a much larger scale of course. The whole principle respects the fact that most journeys are suburb to city centre, not city centre to city centre.

 

[SynthD]

If you wanted to avoid adding a station, could Radley be given a big car park and access road?

It might also function as a better interchange than Oxford "City" which has a fairly cramped arrangement of platforms, poor facilities and an inadequate footbridge

Are any of those points not fixed by the further planned work, the fifth platform and new eastern building?

You'd basically be reducing the central station to a role primarily aimed at people going to/from Oxford city centre or intending to continue onwards by some means other than car.

Is that much of a reduction?

 

[Bletchleyite]

If you wanted to avoid adding a station, could Radley be given a big car park and access road?

Radley is a fairly long way south. It'd need more than an access road, as the roads to it aren't that big. Plus I expect like Islip the locals wouldn't like it.

Are any of those points not fixed by the further planned work, the fifth platform and new eastern building?

They may well be.

Is that much of a reduction?

Well, pretty much the entire purpose of the temporary Congestion Charge scheme was to reduce congestion around the station. This is clearly in part due to the road bridge closure, but there is clearly quite a lot of traffic otherwise it wouldn't be a problem at all. And it was done for Cambridge.

 

[Oxfordblues]

The existing station at Radley could serve this function if more parking spaces could be provided and more trains call. But the challenge would be pathing as a stop would add 4 or 5 minutes to schedules and require a complete timetable recast. If CrossCountry stopped there it might mean retiming everything between Bournemouth and Manchester and most peak XC trains are at-capacity already.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The existing station at Radley could serve this function if more parking spaces could be provided and more trains call.

It's really too far south and too far away from main roads. Directly off the A34 (as per Oxford Parkway) would offer far better connectivity.

 

[cactustwirly]

In a discussion elsewhere about Oxford and the issues surrounding traffic at the station and the congestion charge/bus gates, and it occurred to me - why not do what was done for Cambridge? We obviously already have Oxford Parkway for those heading towards the Chiltern route, but this isn't the main service to London nor is it served by XC etc, nor does it have convenient connections to the Westcountry etc unless you make an extra change at Oxford.

So should there be an Oxford South Parkway built? I think it would make a lot of sense to construct this near the Botley interchange, ideally adjacent to and combining function with the existing Park and Ride site. It could have all trains stopping and basically divert all the park and ride and "kiss and ride" rail use for services to London and services to the north not relevant to the present Oxford Parkway away from the busy city centre?

It's called Didcot Parkway, massive car park and sort of regular service to Oxford

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In a discussion elsewhere about Oxford and the issues surrounding traffic at the station and the congestion charge/bus gates, and it occurred to me - why not do what was done for Cambridge? We obviously already have Oxford Parkway for those heading towards the Chiltern route, but this isn't the main service to London nor is it served by XC etc, nor does it have convenient connections to the Westcountry etc unless you make an extra change at Oxford.

So should there be an Oxford South Parkway built? I think it would make a lot of sense to construct this near the Botley interchange, ideally adjacent to and combining function with the existing Park and Ride site. It could have all trains stopping and basically divert all the park and ride and "kiss and ride" rail use for services to London and services to the north not relevant to the present Oxford Parkway away from the busy city centre?

Botley has the long term road closure so no direct vehicle access to the city, not the best location.

Redbridge would be a better location, however there is limited bus priority and can be quite slow

 

[Topological]

At the junction of the A34 and A423, or around there. Sorry, should have been clearer.



Yes, it's the P&R site. As per Oxford Parkway, integration with that would be a positive for a few reasons - one that it provides added P&R capacity for those who'd choose to travel in by rail, another that it already has a big car park and no objections to there being a big car park, another that the P&R buses also at some times of day offer a stopping service so people could travel there by bus for the station. Thus I'd move the tip but not the P&R site.



I'd stop that as well. It might also function as a better interchange than Oxford "City" which has a fairly cramped arrangement of platforms, poor facilities and an inadequate footbridge. You'd basically be reducing the central station to a role primarily aimed at people going to/from Oxford city centre or intending to continue onwards by some means other than car.



It might, I suppose, but it doesn't really differ that much from basically all trains going over Castlefield stopping at both Oxford Road and Piccadilly, or Avanti now serving both Lime St and South Parkway in Liverpool (though admittedly only with some trains, though that is more a platform length practicality issue - I do reckon if it had 260m platforms they might well stop both).

Actually a better analogy might be Stockport and Manchester Piccadilly. Yes, Stockport is a place in its own right, but a very high proportion of its usage is park and ride - it is in effect a "Manchester South and Cheshire North Parkway" for a good many users and on some trains has more boarding than Piccadilly does. It's all on a much larger scale of course. The whole principle respects the fact that most journeys are suburb to city centre, not city centre to city centre.

Thanks for confirming the location. It looks ideal.

The big advantage of this site is that no train is going to be up to line speed and then back down again. The distance is too short. That removes the critique of adding too much to journey times.

I am curious to know which flow would suffer if Oxford to Paddington took 5 minutes longer anyway. It is still much faster than any road or alternative rail option.

The Stockport analogy is a very good one. Likewise, Wilmslow, for the trains that go that way. Macclesfield probably does a similar job for trains on the Stoke route to Euston.

A smaller point is that this location would also serve any Cowley trains.

 

[cactustwirly]

Thanks for confirming the location. It looks ideal.

The big advantage of this site is that no train is going to be up to line speed and then back down again. The distance is too short. That removes the critique of adding too much to journey times.

I am curious to know which flow would suffer if Oxford to Paddington took 5 minutes longer anyway. It is still much faster than any road or alternative rail option.

The Stockport analogy is a very good one. Likewise, Wilmslow, for the trains that go that way. Macclesfield probably does a similar job for trains on the Stoke route to Euston.

A smaller point is that this location would also serve any Cowley trains.

Would there not be a patching constraint?
I know it's quite busy with Southampton container traffic, XC and GWR to fit in

 

[Bletchleyite]

It's called Didcot Parkway, massive car park and sort of regular service to Oxford

It's 12 miles away from Oxford. That's a bit far, really, though I'm sure people use it as a park and ride if they are going to the Westcountry just as I might drive and park at Bedford if I'm going to Chesterfield or something.

Also, if it was adequate, there wouldn't be an issue with traffic at Oxford station, because people would already be using it. Botley has the potential to be a better experience than driving or taking a taxi into Oxford from villages and the southern suburbs, Didcot Parkway doesn't really unless you're from one of the villages a fair way south.

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Would there not be a patching constraint?
I know it's quite busy with Southampton container traffic, XC and GWR to fit in

I'm sure there would be a need to adjust timetables, but timetables are not immutable.

 

[Topological]

For those mentioning Didcot Parkway, there is not much of a service to Oxford. I can see it works for London though.

Oxford South Parkway* could be much better integrated into Oxford buses than Didcot can be.

 

[cactustwirly]

It's 12 miles away from Oxford. That's a bit far, really, though I'm sure people use it as a park and ride if they are going to the Westcountry just as I might drive and park at Bedford if I'm going to Chesterfield or something.

Also, if it was adequate, there wouldn't be an issue with traffic at Oxford station, because people would already be using it. Botley has the potential to be a better experience than driving or taking a taxi into Oxford from villages and the southern suburbs, Didcot Parkway doesn't really unless you're from one of the villages a fair way south.

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I'm sure there would be a need to adjust timetables, but timetables are not immutable.

There are extensive park and rides also

What is the issue you are trying to solve? What does a half hourly train add Vs a bus Park and Ride?

How does that help people who work at the big BMW plant at Cowley etc or John Radcliffe hospital?

Is the traffic really an issue? Or are you just listening to an out of touch council who has a vendetta against cars?

 

[Topological]

It's 12 miles away from Oxford. That's a bit far, really, though I'm sure people use it as a park and ride if they are going to the Westcountry just as I might drive and park at Bedford if I'm going to Chesterfield or something.

Also, if it was adequate, there wouldn't be an issue with traffic at Oxford station, because people would already be using it. Botley has the potential to be a better experience than driving or taking a taxi into Oxford from villages and the southern suburbs, Didcot Parkway doesn't really unless you're from one of the villages a fair way south.

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I'm sure there would be a need to adjust timetables, but timetables are not immutable.

It is likely to be the CrossCountry that has the biggest timetable issues. That was another part of my rationale for that train not stopping.

The GWR can presumably just arrive at the main Oxford station a couple of minutes later and leave a couple of minutes earlier. Even the Hereford can find some time somewhere to get it to present at Didcot in the current path.

 

[The Planner]

Thanks for confirming the location. It looks ideal.

The big advantage of this site is that no train is going to be up to line speed and then back down again. The distance is too short. That removes the critique of adding too much to journey times.

I am curious to know which flow would suffer if Oxford to Paddington took 5 minutes longer anyway. It is still much faster than any road or alternative rail option.

The Stockport analogy is a very good one. Likewise, Wilmslow, for the trains that go that way. Macclesfield probably does a similar job for trains on the Stoke route to Euston.

A smaller point is that this location would also serve any Cowley trains.

5 minutes is a big revenue drop.

 

[Topological]

5 minutes is a big revenue drop.

What is the big competitor on Oxford to London? As an occasional visitor to Oxford, I would have thought the market was pretty captive.

We also do not know what proportion of people currently using Oxford would actually use Oxford South Parkway and therefore have a quicker journey to London (albeit not by much)

 

[JamesT]

At the junction of the A34 and A423, or around there. Sorry, should have been clearer.

No, that’s Hinksey Hill. And the tip and Park and Ride is Redbridge.
Botley is up where the A420 meets the A34.

 

[The Planner]

What is the big competitor on Oxford to London? As an occasional visitor to Oxford, I would have thought the market was pretty captive.

We also do not know what proportion of people currently using Oxford would actually use Oxford South Parkway and therefore have a quicker journey to London (albeit not by much)

Traffic on the ring road is grim as it is, would need a good set of improvements around Redbridge roundabout and the A34 junction if a sudden influx turned up at rush hours more than there is now.

 

[Bletchleyite]

What is the issue you are trying to solve?

Cars in Oxford city centre.

What does a half hourly train add Vs a bus Park and Ride?

The same as it adds at Oxford Parkway - a service to destinations that aren't Oxford. Yes, people could use it as a secondary Oxford P&R service, but that wouldn't be the reason for it any more than it isn't the reason for Cambridge North or Cambridge South.

How does that help people who work at the big BMW plant at Cowley etc or John Radcliffe hospital?

I'm not sure what the relevance of either of those is?

Is the traffic really an issue?

Yes.

Or are you just listening to an out of touch council who has a vendetta against cars?

No. Oxford is an ancient city, and large volumes of cars cause great harm to and in that sort of city.

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5 minutes is a big revenue drop.

For Oxford to London I bet it's not. Crikey, there are people (such as me) who will accept a doubling of journey time (an added 30 minutes) from Bletchley/MKC/Leighton to London for more chance of a seat. Driving to London is so grim that people will accept a lot.

It might cause a small number to switch to Chiltern due to the time differential being slightly less extreme, but that is still rail and one financial pot once GBR is all in place. I doubt it would cause anyone to switch to a coach service that can take nearly two hours at busy times, or to driving in the same traffic jams.

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No, that’s Hinksey Hill. And the tip and Park and Ride is Redbridge.
Botley is up where the A420 meets the A34.

Sorry, my confusion on the name of the location and thanks for assisting in clarifying it. For clarity I mean near Redbridge P&R.

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Traffic on the ring road is grim as it is, would need a good set of improvements around Redbridge roundabout and the A34 junction if a sudden influx turned up at rush hours more than there is now.

An upside of rail commuter rush hour is that it's about 1-2 hours earlier than rush hour into Oxford in the morning, and 1-2 hours later in the evening.

 

[Topological]

Taking a quick look on Google, there are some points for Hinksey Yard nearby. Do we assume that those could be moved?

 

[JamesT]

Taking a quick look on Google, there are some points for Hinksey Yard nearby. Do we assume that those could be moved?

I think @Bletchleyite is suggesting South of those points, given mention of moving the tip and using the P&R carpark.
I suspect a bigger issue would be the fact that land is floodplain. If the Oxford Flood Alleviation Scheme ever gets going it will be running through there, building more potential obstacles to floodwater won't be welcome.

 

[The Planner]

For Oxford to London I bet it's not. Crikey, there are people (such as me) who will accept a doubling of journey time (an added 30 minutes) from Bletchley/MKC/Leighton to London for more chance of a seat. Driving to London is so grim that people will accept a lot.

It is. Easily into 8 figures.

 

[Topological]

It is. Easily into 8 figures.

Out of interest, how would a £10m plus revenue drop be caclulated?

Is it based on evidence from stopping/not-stopping at Didcot or Slough?

 

[Bletchleyite]

It is. Easily into 8 figures.

So the question is would it also increase revenue? It could for those who would want to drive to the station because it would be more convenient to do so. It also would attract people from nearby?

It doesn't seem to feature that much in previous threads about adding new stations to the network.

Ten minutes (roughly a third) have been added to Ormskirk-Liverpool times over the last 30 years - is that having a significant impact on ridership there? Or are metros different?

 

[The exile]

5 minutes is a big revenue drop.

Really? Especially when what really counts is the door-to-door journey time.

 

[Farigiraf]

I'm sure an Oxford South Parkway would have similar successes as Cambridge North has had (and South will). Particularly so if it functions as a general local transport interchange rather than just a Parkway station. However, if there's a pot of money with Oxford's name on it, the obvious first place that money should go is towards electrification. I appreciate that the cost of one Beaulieu Park-size station would be a fraction of the cost of electrification, but I do think it would still be a better place for the money to go.

At the moment, you could stop the two fast services to Paddington there, the Didcot-Oxford hourly turbo, and potentially the XC services (2tph). 4 of those 5tph would be long-distance intercity services, and while the points made by other posters that the time penalty is largely insignificant are valid, many of these services are already at capacity and are not suitable for handling the Oxford South - Oxford Central commuter/p&r flows that would arise should this station be built. In comparison, with wiring, a lot more options for local services would arise - 2tph to Cowley plus the extended Didcot terminators would already be 4tph. I know this isn't an Oxford electrification thread - I just wanted to state what I think is the more logical next step.

 

[The Pelican]

There isn't very much of "Oxford" South and West of the current station, although you might pick up some Abingdon traffic. It's probably not a bad idea for a Radley or Culham style station, but the Cowley Branch is the best investment otherwise.

 

[cle]

I'm sure an Oxford South Parkway would have similar successes as Cambridge North has had (and South will). Particularly so if it functions as a general local transport interchange rather than just a Parkway station. However, if there's a pot of money with Oxford's name on it, the obvious first place that money should go is towards electrification. I appreciate that the cost of one Beaulieu Park-size station would be a fraction of the cost of electrification, but I do think it would still be a better place for the money to go.

At the moment, you could stop the two fast services to Paddington there, the Didcot-Oxford hourly turbo, and potentially the XC services (2tph). 4 of those 5tph would be long-distance intercity services, and while the points made by other posters that the time penalty is largely insignificant are valid, many of these services are already at capacity and are not suitable for handling the Oxford South - Oxford Central commuter/p&r flows that would arise should this station be built. In comparison, with wiring, a lot more options for local services would arise - 2tph to Cowley plus the extended Didcot terminators would already be 4tph. I know this isn't an Oxford electrification thread - I just wanted to state what I think is the more logical next step.

But is it a random parkway station, or is it helping place-making? Cambridge South is the opposite - no cars, existing jobs hub and planned for much more development. It's an extension of the city and will become a pivotal place.

This might instigate that in time, but hard to justify as a traditional P&R only. Oxford Parkway does have some developments near it, and is very well placed for more especially once EWR opens (it should look like Reading Green Park around it - esp new stadium!) - and as mentioned right above, Cowley does a lot of the Cambridge South role in earnest - not from a rail POV, it's a slow chugging dead-end, but from a supporting existing and potential bio/science/tech (and auto!) development POV.

 

[Topological]

But is it a random parkway station, or is it helping place-making? Cambridge South is the opposite - no cars, existing jobs hub and planned for much more development. It's an extension of the city and will become a pivotal place.

This might instigate that in time, but hard to justify as a traditional P&R only. Oxford Parkway does have some developments near it, and is very well placed for more especially once EWR opens (it should look like Reading Green Park around it - esp new stadium!) - and as mentioned right above, Cowley does a lot of the Cambridge South role in earnest - not from a rail POV, it's a slow chugging dead-end, but from a supporting existing and potential bio/science/tech (and auto!) development POV.

It looks from the maps like there could be development land, though it is to the West. The Thames to the East limits things somewhat.

One argument for the location is that transport to Cowley from Oxford South Parkway would be much easier than from central Oxford. Though it is clear that Cambridge South is more embedded within development.

Although Cowley is planned as a potential branch, might an alternative use be a shuttle that can be much more regular and connect into the services calling at the new station?

 

[cle]

I would try and have 4tph there (2 EWR, 2 Marylebone) - which could cover an (even, we can hope) - 15 min local service between both Cowley stations, Oxford and Oxford Parkway - plus Bicester Town - which is probably the core of an Oxford Crossrail type set-up, more so than any of the other branches. Better platform/conflict-wise too. So would require full double-tracking possibly (so tripling in some parts, per the friehgt plan) - and two platform stations. Maybe a 45-50mph speed boost!

If there was ever a Southern Parkway station, of course it would include that too.