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Lesser-known tunnels which are no-longer used

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I'm quite fascinated with... how should I say.... lesser-known tunnels which are no-longer used. For example, the Queen Victoria Tunnel linking the Metropolitan with the GER at Liverpool St:


All the various curves underneath Kings Cross etc.

I was wondering if users could recommend any others, especially in London?
 
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Liverpool has lots...
https://localwiki.org/liverpool/Liverpool's_Historic_Rail_Tunnels/_files/MAP - Liverpool 1913 - Tunnels.jpg/_info/ shows the ones N and S to the docks from Edge Hill, while the Overhead Railway had another going "inland" through the cliff face to a terminus at Dingle.(?)..

p.s. confirmed:
Dingle (Park Road) was reached by spanning the Cheshire Lines goods yard with a 200 foot lattice girder bridge and by boring a half-mile tunnel through the sandstone high ground further inland. Thus the Overhead belied its name at the southern terminus, passengers new to Dingle no doubt wondering why they had to descend steps and a subway to gain the platforms of an elevated railway!
(http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/features/liverpool_overhead_railway/index.shtml)
 
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Like Liverpool, Glasgow has quite a few, departures from Buchanan Street were quickly into a tunnel, also others on the former Caledonian suburban routes within the city. Also High Street to Bridgeton Central on the NB.

The approaches to Greenock Princes Pier were through tunnels.

Although perhaps not lesser known, Whitrope Tunnel on the Waverley route and Penmanshiel on the ECML which collapsed, Glenfarg tunnel between Cowdenbeath and Perth.
 

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Glenfield tunnel in Leicester, built in 1832 by George and Robert Stephenson. Was the longest railway tunnel in the world when opened.
 

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Straying from the national network, there is MailRail and also parts of its atmospheric predecessor. There was an isolated atmospheric worked tunnel at Crystal Palace a long time ago, though this is now lost. Despite several attempts over past decades, no one has been able to find it.
 

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There was a tunnel beside Plymouth Friary that led underneath Exeter Street down to North Quay. Im not sure if anything remains of it.
 

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May I nominate the Hayfield branch tunnel just East beyond New Mills Central station? Was once used for services on the single track branch line to/from Birch Vale and Hayfield. When that branch line was closed in January 1970, a short stub of track in the tunnel was for a time used as a refuge / turnback siding for Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central DMUs, before they returned in service towards Manchester, after a short layover.
 

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There was a tunnel beside Plymouth Friary that led underneath Exeter Street down to North Quay. Im not sure if anything remains of it.

There was also one under the SR Devonport Kings Road station’s goods yard on a line that lead down to Stonehouse pool. I don’t know its present situation, but being urban it is probably secure.

Weren’t there tunnels on the line between Finsbury Park and Highgate?
 

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There was also one under the SR Devonport Kings Road station’s goods yard on a line that lead down to Stonehouse pool. I don’t know its present situation, but being urban it is probably secure
I believe that was obliterated when the goods shed was demolished and the Kings Road site developed.
 

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There's the Moelwyn Tunnel on the original* alignment of the Ffestiniog Railway - not sure if you could call that lesser known, though. However there's a definitely lesser-known one on the same 2ft gauge network - the tunnel that connected the Foel Boeth Quarry to the top of an incline from the Croesor Tramway.
 

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May I nominate the Hayfield branch tunnel just East beyond New Mills Central station? Was once used for services on the single track branch line to/from Birch Vale and Hayfield. When that branch line was closed in January 1970, a short stub of track in the tunnel was for a time used as a refuge / turnback siding for Manchester Piccadilly to New Mills Central DMUs, before they returned in service towards Manchester, after a short layover.
Yes, that one came to mind. Adding insult to injury for Hayfield residents & weekend walkers, I understand the main reason put forward by BR at the time for closing the Hayfield branch was the dangerous state of that tunnel.

Surely, if the tunnel really was that unsafe, the unions would have had something to say about routinely endangering their members when New Mills Central DMUs were booked to turn back and layover inside the tunnel?


Maybe slightly OT (as this one isn't a "Lesser-known" example per thread title), but I was surprised to read that the infamous Clifton Hall Tunnel (a.k.a. Black Harry Tunnel) in Swinton, Greater Manchester was only finally filled in last year, over 70 years after the deadly collapse in 1953.

Infilling works completed on notorious Victorian railway tunnel in Greater Manchester
12 March, 2025 By Nia Kajastie

The Historical Railways Estate’s contractor Amco Giffen has overseen drilling and grouting work on the Clifton Hall Tunnel, which was the site of a fatal construction shaft collapse in the 1950s.

Amco Giffen recently completed a three month programme to fill in voids to ensure the safety of the Clifton Hall Tunnel site in Pendlebury, Greater Manchester. Salford City Council granted planning permission for the scheme in May 2024, and the contractor started work on it in November.

The tunnel was already partially infilled following a collapse in 1953 that led to five fatalities and four houses to be demolished.

Historical Railway Estate (HRE) engineer Andrew Willison explained that National Highways, which took over management of the HRE in 2013, has been carrying out regular safety checks at the site. The remaining voids within the tunnel have now been filled as a precautionary measure.

The main engineering elements of the project involved 15 rotary drilled 152mm diameter boreholes from ground level to the tunnel crown, with temporary casing and sacrificial lining installed. A total of 271m was drilled as part of the works.
 

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Colwall Old Tunnel is not that unknown, being visible from trains about to enter New Tunnel, but it's history has an unusual twist. Having been replaced as a main line tunnel, it was used as an ammunition store during WW2 and was equipped with a narrow gauge line at that time to facilitate the movement of stores.
 

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Colwall Old Tunnel is not that unknown, being visible from trains about to enter New Tunnel, but it's history has an unusual twist. Having been replaced as a main line tunnel, it was used as an ammunition store during WW2 and was equipped with a narrow gauge line at that time to facilitate the movement of stores.
This reminds me of one of my favourites, Euroclydon Tunnel in the Forest of Dean (also known as Hawthorns Tunnel), which was very strange for a number of reasons.

Firstly, the original contractors were dismissed for various reasons, one being that the headings were 7 feet off true - later discounted (but see below).

Second, the tunnel was completed, and the line from near Cinderford to Mitcheldean Road fully laid, by the GWR in 1877/8, but for some reason the company decided not to use it - it lay unused until 1917 when it was finally lifted.

Thirdly, although only 638 yards long it was built on a reverse curve, so S-shaped, which may have led to the construction difficulties.

Fourth, like Colwall Old, it was used in WW2 as an ammunition store, laid with a concrete base and a narrow-gauge railway to connect with the standard gauge sidings in the quarry at the southern entrance.

And finally - at about the midway point there is a strange cave, accessed through one of the normal recesses - which suggests that maybe there was a mismatch with the tunnel construction - I can think of no other reason for it being there.

There is a good description of it here on the website mentioned above, with some excellent photos, far better than any I could manage.

I walked it about 40 years ago. It was quite scary - I was on my own, and access from the northern portal was by climbing through a hole in the wall that had been built across the entrance and jumping down the other side - I wasn't sure if I'd be able to climb out again! But walking was easy on the concrete floor, and the strange cave was intriguing and quite large. I remember the abandoned equipment inside but strangely not the n.g. railway. And, deep joy, the far end opened out into a working quarry; I just tried to look inconspicuous and walked out through the gates.

Here's an amusing line from Harry Paar's The Great Western Railway in Dean:
Ganger James of Bilson Junction used to get permission to take his trolley through to Mitcheldean Road to convey his daughter's luggage and, so far as is known, this the only beneficial use which was ever made of the line.

Did he not take his daughter as well? Did the poor girl have to walk over the top?
 
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There are many disused tunnels under London-

Many years ago I walked part of the King William Street- Borough tube tunnel which was closed for rail traffic in 1900.
There is the former Bakerloo line reversing loop under the Thames at Charing Cross which is sealed up and flooded.
The Holborn-Aldwych branch closed in the 1990s was originally double track. Whilst one track is still laid the other tunnel was abandoned over 100 years ago.

...but there are others
 

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There are many disused tunnels under London-

Many years ago I walked part of the King William Street- Borough tube tunnel which was closed for rail traffic in 1900.
There is the former Bakerloo line reversing loop under the Thames at Charing Cross which is sealed up and flooded.
The Holborn-Aldwych branch closed in the 1990s was originally double track. Whilst one track is still laid the other tunnel was abandoned over 100 years ago.

...but there are others
The Post Office railway?
 
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Years ago, a friend lived in Whitwick, Leicestershire. He was very involved in local heritage, and one of my visits coincided with a guided tour of the area. The guide had been a miner, and he showed us the site of the tunnel at Pegg's Green on the Coleorton Railway (as well as some well- worn, very lightweight rails partially tarmacked in a level crossing). The remains of the railway had devolved to the NCB, and he'd been responsible for filling the tunnel. He'd used a technique that enabled quick and easy un- filling if needed again, so there it is, ready for re- use if anyone can think of what to do with it.
 

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There is the former Bakerloo line reversing loop under the Thames at Charing Cross which is sealed up and flooded.
Hampstead Tube, not Bakerloo, surely? As its name implies, the Bakerloo ran under the river to Waterloo right from its initial opening.
 

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Some of the best discussions on this tunnels topic have been on RM Web threads.

Here someone has modelled a station on the Victorian Euston-Tottenham Court Road-Charing Cross subsurface line: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/130472-strand-and-its-trains/

Because so many of the tube lines went to the West End, an earlier subsurface line in the area might have made London and the tubes look very different.

Various parts of the "Theory of General Minories" thread discusses things like the Moorgate terminus platforms on the widened lines (three platforms, one per GWR/Midland/LCDR, each with a loco siding and water tower) and why the Liverpool Street curve (Met to Great Eastern) lasted so little time: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/60091-theory-of-general-minories/
 
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