Last month, the local butcher was stating the weight of the turkey and some other items in his 'Christmas meat hamper' in pounds.Remember the Metric Martyrs? What a good use of everyone's time and energy that was. Metric Martyrs
Last month, the local butcher was stating the weight of the turkey and some other items in his 'Christmas meat hamper' in pounds.Remember the Metric Martyrs? What a good use of everyone's time and energy that was. Metric Martyrs
Last month, the local butcher was stating the weight of the turkey and some other items in his 'Christmas meat hamper' in pounds.
I believe the cases of the "Metric Martyrs" were part of the reason for the 2016 EU membership referendum and were used as ammunition by the Leave campaign. Didn't Miles Kington once write that he was afraid of being forced by Brussels to call himself "Kilometres Kington"?The metric martyrs issue was that they wouldn’t switch from imperial-only (waste of public money to prosecute, mind!)
Ah, yes: “Let’s parlez Franglais.” What a joy.I believe the cases of the "Metric Martyrs" were part of the reason for the 2016 EU membership referendum and were used as ammunition by the Leave campaign. Didn't Miles Kington once write that he was afraid of being forced by Brussels to call himself "Kilometres Kington"?
Last month, the local butcher was stating the weight of the turkey and some other items in his 'Christmas meat hamper' in pounds.

Can we just drop using stones, please? Pounds if you must, but kg is much more convenient.People... stones and a lbs, feet and inches. I can visualize a 6ft tall 14 stone bloke, but give it me in metric I'll need a moment to convert it.
For you, perhaps. It's the unit of measure that I relate to for things like someone's weight.Can we just drop using stones, please? Pounds if you must, but kg is much more convenient.
Yeah, but *only* for people's weight. Anything else needs conversion and calculations. And even with weights it's not mathematically convenient.For you, perhaps. It's the unit of measure that I relate to for things like someone's weight.
Quite. But for most people, most of the time, units of measure are not primarily for calculation.Yeah, but *only* for people's weight. Anything else needs conversion and calculations. And even with weights it's not mathematically convenient.
For example if a lift has a weight limit of 2,000kg how many 15 stone people can it carry safely? If I weigh 16 stone 5, Dave is 14 stone 8, and Bob is 14 stone 3, what's our average weight?
Didnt EE or someone else export a loco to Europe only for them to say 'Where are the metric measurements?'It's an interesting debate. I was taught engineering during the 70's. As such I had to be fluent in both imperial and metric. One day I would be working to microns for a European customer, the next in thou for a US job. Now I tend to work in whatever system the item was originally made. If it was designed and made in imperial I'll use that. If it's made in metric then metric it is.![]()
Wasn't that Kestrel?Didnt EE or someone else export a loco to Europe only for them to say 'Where are the metric measurements?'
....and North British Loco Company built four different classes of diesel locomotives with engines which they manufactured under licence from MAN in Germany. Unfortunately all the drawings sent from Germany - as you would expect - were in metric measurements and the NBL works in Glasgow were only tooled in imperial measurements. The resulting approximate conversions made for a very unreliable - and frequently self-combusting - product.Didnt EE or someone else export a loco to Europe only for them to say 'Where are the metric measurements?'
This is ringing bells about North British locos - I think this is the one.....and North British Loco Company built four different classes of diesel locomotives with engines which they manufactured under licence from MAN in Germany. Unfortunately all the drawings sent from Germany - as you would expect - were in metric measurements and the NBL works in Glasgow were only tooled in imperial measurements. The resulting approximate conversions made for a very unreliable - and frequently self-combusting - product.
This is precisely why we used to work to the originators measurement system. Removed conversion errors at source. Did carry an extra overhead in tooling though, plus you needed a fluently bilingual workforce.....and North British Loco Company built four different classes of diesel locomotives with engines which they manufactured under licence from MAN in Germany. Unfortunately all the drawings sent from Germany - as you would expect - were in metric measurements and the NBL works in Glasgow were only tooled in imperial measurements. The resulting approximate conversions made for a very unreliable - and frequently self-combusting - product.
Cups are really annoying, and unfortunately still widely used in the US, but they are a measure of volume which makes conversion to weight irritating, if I want to measure flour for something I do it by weight and not by volume, and to be honest I don’t care whether it’s pounds and ounces or grams.We have great fun cooking at home. Some recipes are in oz, some in grams, others in cups. It's all ratios so I just grab the appropriate weights or cups and crack on.
Apparently the reason that United Statesian recipes use cups is because in colonial times it was rare for homes to have scales, but everyone had cups. So it became traditional to use volume rather than weight. Which worked because, as noted above, home baking is mainly about ratios rather than exact amounts.Cups are really annoying, and unfortunately still widely used in the US, but they are a measure of volume which makes conversion to weight irritating, if I want to measure flour for something I do it by weight and not by volume, and to be honest I don’t care whether it’s pounds and ounces or grams.
In the late '60s I was working in a mixed metric/imperial environment depending on the age of the product design and the end customer's requirements. Drawing masters for dyeline printing in those days were either melinex or linen so they had a default definition of tolerances using the number of a dimension's decimal places pre printed in the border boxes. There were quite a few drawings on the wrong master so an example of a dimension on a formally released drawing could effectively mean: 45mm ± 5 'thou'! *It's an interesting debate. I was taught engineering during the 70's. As such I had to be fluent in both imperial and metric. One day I would be working to microns for a European customer, the next in thou for a US job. Now I tend to work in whatever system the item was originally made. If it was designed and made in imperial I'll use that. If it's made in metric then metric it is.
Less archaic are Mercury phone boxes, which used prepaid cards. I preferred to use them rather than BT phone cards since Mercury phones were less popular than BT, therefore there was rarely a queue to use them, particularly at railway stations.Something that I think has not been mentioned were the boxes that attached to your telephone that dialled an access code for a different operator before the time when it was no longer needed. Without the box you need to dial an access number before dialing the number of the person you wanted to call.
My auntie had one for One.Tel.
I still see some Mercury branded manhole covers around, I believe there is at least one in Dorchester.Less archaic are Mercury phone boxes, which used prepaid cards. I preferred to use them rather than BT phone cards since Mercury phones were less popular than BT, therefore there was rarely a queue to use them, particularly at railway stations.
The network underneath will often still be live - Mercury was a Cable and Wireless brand, which was acquired by Vodafone some years ago.I still see some Mercury branded manhole covers around, I believe there is at least one in Dorchester.
Of course they'll still be used, I bet some of them come in quite handy.The network underneath will often still be live - Mercury was a Cable and Wireless brand, which was acquired by Vodafone some years ago.
There are some older than that. Somewhere I have some pictures that I took on one street in London which has successive "Post Office Telegraphs", "GPO", 1980s BT logo, and "BT" marked covers.Of course they'll still be used, I bet some of them come in quite handy.
Naturally there are still some others around labelled "Post Office Telegraphs" which will still be in use.
Being early 40s I'm at a pretty unique age that I use imperial in metric mixed.
As another middle-aged user of mixed units, I think of mountain heights in feet in the UK (to the extent that if I see a height in metres I will multiply it by 3 and a bit to get the 'real' height), but in metres on the Continent.