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Just sat a Stage 1 assessment with GA. Absolutely brutal but pleased to say I passed. Was incredible to see how many candidates were unprepared. 11 started om assessment, 4 passed.
Great to hear - will be doing the same at Stratford at end of month what prep did you find worked best… I’ve worked through the info so many times now looking to get some different sheets and questions… did read earlier on that you used an app for tones?
 
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Markus99

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Just sat a Stage 1 assessment with GA. Absolutely brutal but pleased to say I passed. Was incredible to see how many candidates were unprepared. 11 started om assessment, 4 passed.
When you say brutal was it that bad? Did you pass?

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Sorry you said you had. What were the DFFT like? Some people say they are tje hardest to pass as they require enhanced level pass.
 

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Up next month for Southeastern, I have the 3 computer tests left to do and if I pass MMI. Any tips or advice for the tests and also what questions to prepare for the MMI? Feel most nervous about the the grey/black square

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Up next month for Southeastern, I have the 3 computer tests left to do and if I pass MMI. Any tips or advice for the tests and also what questions to prepare for the MMI? Feel most nervous about the the grey/black square

Thanks
WAFV - You stare at a white screen with a grey square box right in the middle and it flashes slowly but continuously. When it flashes black, you have to press the green button. This is the easiest test of them all. It lasts for around 30mins so it will get boring. I was bored when doing this so make sure to keep concentrated the whole time. Keep blinking. Everyone should pass this. So easy.

ATAVT - A road picture flashes on the screen for about 1 second then you have to select whether u saw pedestrians, bike/motorbike, motor vehicle, road signs and/or traffic lights. Some pics might only have 1. Some might have all of them. Only press what u definitely saw.

2 Hand - You have to move a ball around a path using 2 joysticks. The left joystick moves it left to right and the right joystick moves it up and down. I would say get use to the sensitivity of this before starting the test. U get to practice before anyways. I practiced so many times before starting, the woman assessing literally tapped me on my shoulder and told me to start the test coz I was practising so much.
 

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WAFV - You stare at a white screen with a grey square box right in the middle and it flashes slowly but continuously. When it flashes black, you have to press the green button. This is the easiest test of them all. It lasts for around 30mins so it will get boring. I was bored when doing this so make sure to keep concentrated the whole time. Keep blinking. Everyone should pass this. So easy.

ATAVT - A road picture flashes on the screen for about 1 second then you have to select whether u saw pedestrians, bike/motorbike, motor vehicle, road signs and/or traffic lights. Some pics might only have 1. Some might have all of them. Only press what u definitely saw.

2 Hand - You have to move a ball around a path using 2 joysticks. The left joystick moves it left to right and the right joystick moves it up and down. I would say get use to the sensitivity of this before starting the test. U get to practice before anyways. I practiced so many times before starting, the woman assessing literally tapped me on my shoulder and told me to start the test coz I was practising so much.
Thank you!!! Think I worried about the WAFV as I’ve seen people say the grey square looks black when it’s not?

Also do you know how many pictures there are for the ATAVT?

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JJBH

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Thank you!!! Think I worried about the WAFV as I’ve seen people say the grey square looks black when it’s not?

Also do you know how many pictures there are for the ATAVT?

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It’s very easy to differentiate the black square from the grey one. Unless you are colour blind it should be the easiest test u ever do in ur life.

I think there was around 12-15 pics for the ATAVT.
 

Carrot12345

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It’s very easy to differentiate the black square from the grey one. Unless you are colour blind it should be the easiest test u ever do in ur life.

I think there was around 12-15 pics for the ATAVT.
Thank you!! fingers crossed all good next month.

How long does the MMI last? In my email they said 11-2 they expect me to be there. That’s including MMI
 

JJBH

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Thank you!! fingers crossed all good next month.

How long does the MMI last? In my email they said 11-2 they expect me to be there. That’s including MMI
The MMI length depends on how u answer the questions and if the assessor thinks u have gave enough detail for each question. For some people its 1hr. For others it might be 2.
 

mld

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Hi mate,

I have also received an email to complete an online assessment. I have not opened the link as I am unsure what these tests are so trying to get some info first.

Has you friend told you what the online test was based on? ANY help would be greatly appreciated.

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Hello there,

Did you manage to find out what kind of online tests Northern are doing? I did one last year with CrossCountry and it was to do with shapes and cubes which was very annoying and unnecessary so I am hoping Northern's tests aren't the same.

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The tests are not fair actually. Remember, just cause somebody gets a better result on their theory test does NOT make them a better driver on the roads. Same applies here, doing a psychometric and passing it does not mean that person will be a better train driver than the one who fails the tests. These tests are not necessary, instead they should be doing tests 'relevant' to the job. For example, I did a online test for CrossCountry where I was required to figure about number of sides of dices, cubes, octagons, hexagons, how to fold to make a specific shape etc.. I mean what has that got to do with Train Driving? My 11 year old passed those tests yet a lot of 'PHD' and 'Degree' holders failed that online test. My 11 year old was good at it because she is good at picturing shapes in her head cause of the games she plays on Roblox, whereas not every adult has a 'baby mind'. If they want to test people fairly then they should be asking questions relevant to the job and doing roleplays to see how someone handles pressure and not bloody how to figure out how dices and shapes are made out of paper... Might as well ask us to make a paper plane instead!

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you managed to get any information yet?
I can only guess you haven’t been to the assessment day for northern then? It wasn’t the psychometrics I was talking about…
 

Chaz15

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Hi can anyone clear something up for me as the online guidance doesn't seem to apply to someone passing pre 2024 then failing after.

First sat Psychometric test Nov 2018 and passed (failed at DMI)

Never tried again until April 2025, failed psychometric, had a brain fart!


Am I bound by the 6months between attempts or the new 12 months.
 

Northrail127

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I believe you’ve had your two attempts and won’t be allowed to do it again. Unless someone on here says otherwise. Sorry it’s not great news and not what you wanted to hear.
 

Chaz15

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I believe you’ve had your two attempts and won’t be allowed to do it again. Unless someone on here says otherwise. Sorry it’s not great news and not what you wanted to hear.
Doesnt make sense to me because one of them was passed.

Surely you could pass ten times and still not have picked up a job for whatever reason, so you could go for an 11th attempt.
 

Northrail127

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Apologies, I’ve misread it completely. Failed at DMI, I missed that part.

So you passed in 2018, so your 5 years lapsed and resit it in April last year.

So you’ll surely be under the new process which I think is 12 months between attempts.

Sorry for the confusion.
 

Chaz15

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Apologies, I’ve misread it completely. Failed at DMI, I missed that part.

So you passed in 2018, so your 5 years lapsed and resit it in April last year.

So you’ll surely be under the new process which I think is 12 months between attempts.

Sorry for the confusion.

No problem,

The examples arent great, even though I never failed pre 2024 I still believe I only get 2 fails as opposed to the 3 now, and I'd hope if thats the standard I'm held to I'd get the 6 month between tests too, but my situation seems relatively unusual.

I ask as I'm in for a role now but haven't even made DMI yet so hopefully psychometrics would be after my year anyway should I pass Video Interview / DMI
 

dtr1989

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I'm doing it with WMT so it needs to be enhanced level... im bricking it! The TOC cant/wont tell me if I have to resit all the tests on level 1 or just the one I failed... all I got back was.. 'you will be asked to sit the tests you need' ! Not helpful.. so im thinking I need to prepare for them all... incase I have to sit them all again.... would be helpful if I was given more info but ive tried. But I do know it was TEA OCC I failed on before. Thankyou for replying... in all honesty.. I dont feel prepared... but I can only try my best again
Give them a bit of a push mate. I was getting the same replies so started cc’ed the OPC in and it got sorted quickly.
 

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quick question, Group bourdon test, will this be dots or letters? always understood it to be dots but practice material I have been given is letters, but then it says "this is SIMILAR to the actual test" so im thinking it could still be dots, just want to know what to practice! Im sitting my tests at RCG in Manchester if that makes a difference
 

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quick question, Group bourdon test, will this be dots or letters? always understood it to be dots but practice material I have been given is letters, but then it says "this is SIMILAR to the actual test" so im thinking it could still be dots, just want to know what to practice! Im sitting my tests at RCG in Manchester if that makes a difference
it is dots, best to print some out and do it on paper
 

Carrot12345

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quick question, Group bourdon test, will this be dots or letters? always understood it to be dots but practice material I have been given is letters, but then it says "this is SIMILAR to the actual test" so im thinking it could still be dots, just want to know what to practice! Im sitting my tests at RCG in Manchester if that makes a difference
The dots, I bought a book off Amazon and practice 10 minutes everyday. Passed enhanced
 

SCDR_WMR

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Apologies, I’ve misread it completely. Failed at DMI, I missed that part.

So you passed in 2018, so your 5 years lapsed and resit it in April last year.

So you’ll surely be under the new process which I think is 12 months between attempts.

Sorry for the confusion.
It's only the new process of you haven't already sat testing. Anyone who sat prior to last year only has 6 months to wait (limited to 2 lives rather than 3)
 

Chaz15

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It's only the new process of you haven't already sat testing. Anyone who sat prior to last year only has 6 months to wait (limited to 2 lives rather than 3)
So to be clear
Passed October 2018
Failed April 2025

You think I'm good to sit again after 6 months?
 

juspassingby

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Hi, I did this in October and there were parts to it: 1. A situational judgement test, and 2. A 2 minute speaking exercise that assesses your grammar/ability to communicate clearly.
Hi, I did the online test 3 days ago and there were 3 parts to it. 1. Perpetual speed test (error checking), 2 and 3 were Situational Judgment tests based around Safety and Resilience. First part was 12 minutes long to do 15 questions and the 2nd and 3rd parts were 8 mins each to do 8 questions.

I got asked to go to in for a psychometric assessment... I am confused cause I don't know if it's the actual test or just a pre test. They sent me some materials and the materials seem to point towards the ACTUAL test. The issue is, I haven't even done a DMi yet.

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I can only guess you haven’t been to the assessment day for northern then? It wasn’t the psychometrics I was talking about…
I have been called in for an assessment next week... I am not sure if it is the actual psychometrics or just like a 'pre test'. It's all confusing now. Before it was DMi then psychometrics but now after the Online tests there seems to be more steps. I've had to take a day off next week and if it's not the actual test then I guess I'll have to take more days off in the future (and I don't have many more holidays remaining at work).
 
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juspassingby

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Ah sorry can't be of any help. Good luck to your mate. It would be interesting to find out what the assessments are like, I guess it's got to be a positive though as the amount of people they weeded out from the assessment day was brutal, but fair.
Can I PM you please? I keep losing the thread.
 
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Medical questions..... Anyone had any issues with Blood Pressure through the recruitment process?

Just had my medical they've said for for duty but also said to go GP because my BP is a little on the high side 141/89.

Hoping it doesn't effect my recruitment process
 

Drivingtales

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Anyone done the dials test (think its called TRP2) for west midlands trains?? I know they are enhanced pass standard. I got to question 20.... supposing they are all correct... would that be an enhanced pass? Anyone passed at enhanced tell me what question they got to? Just worrying i havent done enough to pass... (im 99% sure my 20 questions are correct!!)
 

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Anyone done the dials test (think its called TRP2) for west midlands trains?? I know they are enhanced pass standard. I got to question 20.... supposing they are all correct... would that be an enhanced pass? Anyone passed at enhanced tell me what question they got to? Just worrying i havent done enough to pass... (im 99% sure my 20 questions are correct!!)
Nobody knows the scoring criteria for the tests, you’ll just have to sit tight and wait for your results.
 

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