UK switching to electric vehicles discussion

[Mawkie]

Yes, there have certainly been some cars that have (at least early on) had software issues with things like lane keep assist, that can actively steer a vehicle into danger without quick intervention.

For those that haven't used a car with this kind of technology a classic scenario is:

Lane Keep Assist:

You are driving along a road and see a cyclist in the distance travelling in the same direction, you check your mirrors and check if any cars are coming towards you - there aren't.

You move slowly and purposefully to overtake the cyclist, leaving a significant gap. This necessitates crossing the centre white lines.

Suddenly the car beeps wildly and takes control of the steering wheel jerking you left to get you back into your lane - only this also steers you directly into the cyclist you're passing.

Another classic is Speed Sign Recognition:

You are on a motorway driving at 70 mph and pass a slower moving van with a sticker that says "This vehicle is limited to 50 mph". This causes your vehicle to slam on the brakes as it mis-reads the sticker thinking it's an official speed limit sign. (See also driving along 50mph urban dual carriageways, when the car mis-reads the 30 mph signs of the side roads on the left and slams on the brakes causing surprise to those following behind.)

It can be quite scary and it's not surprising people want to turn the various ADAS systems off.

 

[Topological]

The speed adjustment thing is an interesting one. There is another thread about technology features though. Both of my cars beep at me if they think I am speeding, though on one I worked out how to turn the sound off so it just flashes on the dashboard. Neither of them automatically adjust speed.

Lane assist doesn't cause issues if you indicate in the direction of the line you are crossing. Though it may be strange to indicate to overtake a cyclist (or horse). The biggest issue I have is when roadworks on the motorway cause the running lanes to cross into the hard shoulder, or go over the hatched areas near a junction. Even though they black out the lines, the car still finds them and tries to stop me crossing (there an indicator use would be wierd).

Since these are features of both the EV and diesel it is not really something that should put people off an EV, more just put them off a new car.

 

[Peter Sarf]

Better than any of that would be a total ban on touchscreen control for any core feature of the vehicle that may need to be used when in motion. Heating, aircon, hazard lights etc plus the radio volume should be required to be physical controls designed to be used without looking by law, and touchscreens should be required to be disabled by law when in motion unless a passenger is detected in the front seat who could be doing it. Faffing with a touchscreen is every bit as bad as a phone.

Oh so terribly true.

I have noticed a turn-able knob (example - a fan speed controller) is easier to use than a slider. With the knob I can always get my aim right without looking (its location does not move), I can hold it whilst the car wobbles a bit and alter its setting without having to move my whole arm. Twenty plus years of Carlton ownership never got me to forget the convenience of the turn-able knob in the preceding Cavalier !. The slider is almost as bad as a touch screen in that it needs more attention than a button or knob.

For those that haven't used a car with this kind of technology a classic scenario is:

Lane Keep Assist:

You are driving along a road and see a cyclist in the distance travelling in the same direction, you check your mirrors and check if any cars are coming towards you - there aren't.

You move slowly and purposefully to overtake the cyclist, leaving a significant gap. This necessitates crossing the centre white lines.

Suddenly the car beeps wildly and takes control of the steering wheel jerking you left to get you back into your lane - only this also steers you directly into the cyclist you're passing.

Another classic is Speed Sign Recognition:

You are on a motorway driving at 70 mph and pass a slower moving van with a sticker that says "This vehicle is limited to 50 mph". This causes your vehicle to slam on the brakes as it mis-reads the sticker thinking it's an official speed limit sign. (See also driving along 50mph urban dual carriageways, when the car mis-reads the 30 mph signs of the side roads on the left and slams on the brakes causing surprise to those following behind.)

It can be quite scary and it's not surprising people want to turn the various ADAS systems off.

I tend to change lanes very gently so avoiding sudden (albeit more purposeful) moves. I now realise that ability to anticipate is probably making me look like I am dozing off !.

I had that speed limit problem - the hire van spotting a drastically lower mystery speed limit. I had to force myself to stop thinking about it as it was a distraction.

The speed adjustment thing is an interesting one. There is another thread about technology features though. Both of my cars beep at me if they think I am speeding, though on one I worked out how to turn the sound off so it just flashes on the dashboard. Neither of them automatically adjust speed.

Lane assist doesn't cause issues if you indicate in the direction of the line you are crossing. Though it may be strange to indicate to overtake a cyclist (or horse). The biggest issue I have is when roadworks on the motorway cause the running lanes to cross into the hard shoulder, or go over the hatched areas near a junction. Even though they black out the lines, the car still finds them and tries to stop me crossing (there an indicator use would be wierd).

Since these are features of both the EV and diesel it is not really something that should put people off an EV, more just put them off a new car.

Even my own eyes lose the lane in the wet as the redundant lines painted black look the same as the temporary white lines.
I tend to indicate anyway so that an adjacent car gets an extra, if unnecessary, clue.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Of all the failings with my car, the automation and severe lack of buttons aren't the ones I thought would annoy me the most. In fact, I rarely interface with the car at all.

Some of the new NCAP guidelines are well meaning, but will create additional costs in development and hardware necessity, which will lead to those costs being passed into consumers meaning even more expensive cars. We constantly hear that people want smaller, more affordable cars.

There's a good write up here for those that want to look further into it.

What’s Changing in Euro NCAP’s 2026 Safety Ratings?

What’s changing in Euro NCAP's 2026 update, how it compares to the 2023 protocols, and what automakers need to prepare for.

www.smarteye.se

Some of these features have the effect of handholding people who shouldn't be on the road, onto the road. If you can't stay in your lane, you either need to take a break or shouldn't be driving at all. If you can't drive without scrolling through your social media (I suspect this is something that triggers the lane-keeping assist very frequently), you definitely shouldn't be driving at all.
Crash safety scores should be about, well, crashworthiness. If the authorities want to introduce another rating system for things like on-board software, it should be a separate score.

You are on a motorway driving at 70 mph and pass a slower moving van with a sticker that says "This vehicle is limited to 50 mph". This causes your vehicle to slam on the brakes as it mis-reads the sticker thinking it's an official speed limit sign. (See also driving along 50mph urban dual carriageways, when the car mis-reads the 30 mph signs of the side roads on the left and slams on the brakes causing surprise to those following behind.)

I heard of an even worse case- a motorway running parallel to a railway line with an 85mph speed board. Car reads that sign and the adaptive cruise control accelerates up to 85mph!

 

[jon0844]

Maybe a rather drastic form of driver attention device.

Well, in all cases (especially the ridiculous 'Full Self Driving' that has 'Supervised' added on because it's anything but) you really must be ready to take over. For me that does make such features rather silly if they can't work 100%.

I haven't experienced Lane Keep Assist doing anything untoward on my car, but I know early MG4s were plagued with issues and people felt it could lead to a nasty accident (potential head-on collision). Active safety features should not put someone at risk!!

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For those that haven't used a car with this kind of technology a classic scenario is:

Lane Keep Assist:

You are driving along a road and see a cyclist in the distance travelling in the same direction, you check your mirrors and check if any cars are coming towards you - there aren't.

You move slowly and purposefully to overtake the cyclist, leaving a significant gap. This necessitates crossing the centre white lines.

Suddenly the car beeps wildly and takes control of the steering wheel jerking you left to get you back into your lane - only this also steers you directly into the cyclist you're passing.

Another classic is Speed Sign Recognition:

You are on a motorway driving at 70 mph and pass a slower moving van with a sticker that says "This vehicle is limited to 50 mph". This causes your vehicle to slam on the brakes as it mis-reads the sticker thinking it's an official speed limit sign. (See also driving along 50mph urban dual carriageways, when the car mis-reads the 30 mph signs of the side roads on the left and slams on the brakes causing surprise to those following behind.)

It can be quite scary and it's not surprising people want to turn the various ADAS systems off.

Lane Keep Assist only operates above a certain speed for me, so in most cases I wouldn't be passing a cyclist that fast - but that is certainly a potential issue if the car jolts you back into lane too harshly. It shouldn't be too firm, and as I've not really heard much about issues recently I have to assume that MG and others have tweaked the settings (but not all cars can get over the air updates, so may require a trip to the dealer to fix).

As for speed sign recognition, my car only warns me of the speed limit change and gives a fairly subtle alert tone when I'm exceeding the limit. It doesn't actually slow the car - and I'd hope that if you did have a limiting feature in place, no car would ever slam on the brakes. It could simply gradually reduce the speed, and you should also be able to kick down to override.

I park in a car park with a 5mph limit, so the car leaves the car park with it thinking the road is 5mph until I drive some considerable distance before passing another sign. It would be ridiculous if the car couldn't go beyond the limit it THINKS it is. My car doesn't use mapping data to override things, presumably because there's no guarantee the mapping data will match what the road signs say if there's been a recent change.

These are all valid issues and concerns, but it should be noted again that neither of these issues is anything to do with the way the car is powered!

 

[HighlandStorm]

It's not more difficult and not more time consuming overall; it just has to be thought of in a different way.

The point about EV use needing to be thought about in a different way is exactly why I have a problem with this:

Road fee: yes, but it's still way less than the 5-10p/mile liquid fuel users pay. There is a psychology at play here; nothing more. It is (and therefore looks like) an extra burden. Rather than it being rolled up in and hidden by the once per (week/fortnight/month) cost to fill a liquid tank.

It's like the regulations to make all DC chargers require to take contactless payment - amongst other regulations - to make it more like buying petrol, when it isn't like buying petrol! (Regulations which have contributed to the imminent shutdown of ChargePlace Scotland. Will have gone from previously been able to charge across Scotland with one app/RFID card and get a monthly bill, to what will likely be random collection of different networks taking over segments of chargers).

The eVED is in a similar vain, applying dinosaur burner thinking to EVs. A crude system that takes no account of what is being driven, where it is being driven or when it is being driven.

 

[notverydeep]

Bangernomics works on there being a supply of cheap but still usable cars where you can repair most things yourself.
EVs aren’t cheap, the high initial price filters into the secondhand cost. Looking at autotrader, down the bottom end it’s £1-3 thousand for an EV, whereas you can get used ICE for a few hundred. The EVs down that end are the earliest models, so Nissan Leafs that will have knackered batteries (because they didn’t have decent management), or a Renault Zoe you have to lease the battery. In the unlikely event of a battery failure, that’s almost certainly terminal as it would cost several times the value to get that replaced.
As time goes on and better EVs filter into the secondhand market things may change. But I think that looks a few years off.

Already though, these Nissan leafs are a total bargain. If you can charge at home and commute no more than a 30 mile round trip, they are going to be just about the cheapest ‘second car‘ option available…

 

[Noddy]

Regulations which have contributed to the imminent shutdown of ChargePlace Scotland. Will have gone from previously been able to charge across Scotland with one app/RFID card and get a monthly bill, to what will likely be random collection of different networks taking over segments of chargers).

I’m not sure it’s regulations that required CPS to be broken up?

But regardless CPS does need to go. Having central government use tax payers money to fund 100s of slow (50kw) DC chargers (that aren’t even 800 volt compatible so aren’t future proofed) is ridiculous. Governments should be funding large scale AC programs to support cheap charging for those folk who can’t charge at home, the islands, and as destination chargers at tourist hotspots. The highlands are miles behind the rest of the UK in terms of decent DC charging hubs (look at the A9 or A82) for example. As a regular visitor to the highlands it’s last stop Ionity Perth to avoid CPS.

In terms of multiple Apps the first contract has been awarded to an Electroverse partner and its likely that the other contracts will be as awarded to Electroverse partners as well so you’ll still only need to use one app/RFID to charge and get your receipts (and its one app that you can use at many hundreds of CPOs across the rest of the UK and Europe, not just in Scotland).

 

[Snow1964]

New car sales figures for December are out
Electric car percentages have increased

BEV battery electric vehicles 47,139 cars 32.2%
HEV hybrid electric vehicles 18,430 cars 12.6%
PHEV plug in hybrid vehicle 16,898 cars 11.6%
Petrol 57,607 cars 39.4%
diesel 6175 cars 4.2%

For 2025 (whole year) 2,020,520 cars were sold

UK New Car Registration Data - Latest Figures & Statistics | SMMT

Discover the latest UK car registration data: new car registration statistics, the number of cars in the UK, and more.

www.smmt.co.uk

Quite surprisingly how electric is getting close to petrol volumes, but there are lots more good small electric cars now available. And more being launched in 2026

 

[Bald Rick]

Notably from those figures BYD (51,422) outsold Tesla (45,513) in 2025 in the UK.

And for those worried about the impact of EVs on the national grid - the extra half million of them in 2025 will have increased national grid demand by around 150MW for the year (on a average). Put another way, that is the same as the annual output of about 30 of the wind turbines being installed at Dogger Bank. And there’s going to be 277 of them.

 

[sannox]

Notably from those figures BYD (51,422) outsold Tesla (45,513) in 2025 in the UK.

And for those worried about the impact of EVs on the national grid - the extra half million of them in 2025 will have increased national grid demand by around 150MW for the year (on a average). Put another way, that is the same as the annual output of about 30 of the wind turbines being installed at Dogger Bank. And there’s going to be 277 of them.

Not surprising given Tesla's Musk issues, but also the cheaper and smaller models that BYD do like the Dolphin should be more mass market. Some of BYDs top end models however look excellent.

 

[thejuggler]

New car sales figures for December are out
Electric car percentages have increased

BEV battery electric vehicles 47,139 cars 32.2%
HEV hybrid electric vehicles 18,430 cars 12.6%
PHEV plug in hybrid vehicle 16,898 cars 11.6%
Petrol 57,607 cars 39.4%
diesel 6175 cars 4.2%

For 2025 (whole year) 2,020,520 cars were sold

UK New Car Registration Data - Latest Figures & Statistics | SMMT

Discover the latest UK car registration data: new car registration statistics, the number of cars in the UK, and more.

www.smmt.co.uk

Quite surprisingly how electric is getting close to petrol volumes, but there are lots more good small electric cars now available. And more being launched in 2026

Its not surprising as the number of pure petrol vehicles available is rapidly reducing.

 

[RuddA]

From Car Magazine website the best selling EVs were

1. Tesla Model Y – 24,298 registrations
2. Tesla Model 3 – 21,188
3. Audi Q4 e-tron – 14,433
4. Audi Q6 e-tron – 13,148
5. Ford Explorer – 12,237
6. BMW i4 – 12,158
7. Skoda Enyaq – 11,940
8. Kia EV3 – 11,188
9. Skoda Elroq – 10,713
10. Volvo EX30 – 10,289

These are the winners and losers of the UK car market in 2025

ICE vehicles remained on top (just) and Chinese cars grew significantly throughout 2025

www.carmagazine.co.uk

 

[E27007]

From Car Magazine website the best selling EVs were

1. Tesla Model Y – 24,298 registrations
2. Tesla Model 3 – 21,188
3. Audi Q4 e-tron – 14,433
4. Audi Q6 e-tron – 13,148
5. Ford Explorer – 12,237
6. BMW i4 – 12,158
7. Skoda Enyaq – 11,940
8. Kia EV3 – 11,188
9. Skoda Elroq – 10,713
10. Volvo EX30 – 10,289

These are the winners and losers of the UK car market in 2025

ICE vehicles remained on top (just) and Chinese cars grew significantly throughout 2025

www.carmagazine.co.uk

Note the word "registrations", registrations are not always sales to end users.
Some will be on the forecourts to be sold as delivery mileage used cars

 

[jon0844]

Note the word "registrations", registrations are not always sales to end users.
Some will be on the forecourts to be sold as delivery mileage used cars

Does it really matter in the long run? They aren't going to be scrapped, so will be on the road sooner or later. It may skew the figures a bit month-by-month but will average out over the year.

As long as we have plate changes twice a year and people who want a car with the latest plate, we'll also see a spike in registrations at those times also.

These 'tricks' have applied to all cars for decades so the same will apply to the petrol and diesel cars in the lists too.

Personally, I'm all in for a car that can be purchased for 20-50% off list price with low mileage. Let someone else take the hit on depreciation. At a time where most new cars don't have huge option lists and come in 2 or 3 specs, you can now get a second-hand car with all the toys you want and no longer have to buy new to add that specific feature you wanted.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Agree @jon0844 although perhaps EV brand counts for a lot?

A Volvo dealership locally (south coast) has a swathe of pre-reg large EV SUVs. Some are pre-reg'd back to 23-plate; and yet still sit on the dealership forecourt.
I have seen many moved (transporter) around its dealership network; only to return here 6 months later.

 

[telstarbox]

Presumably BYD have a wider range of vehicles which are each selling in numbers below the top 10?

 

[bspahh]

Presumably BYD have a wider range of vehicles which are each selling in numbers below the top 10?

The government publish a breakdown of the new cars that are registered by make and model at

Vehicle licensing statistics data tables

Detailed statistics about vehicle licensing and registered vehicles in the United Kingdom.

www.gov.uk

However, the latest release for the df_VEH0160_GB table only has the numbers for Q1 and Q2 in 2025.
BYD sold ~3000 cars a quarter in Q3 and Q4 of 2024, and then 9243 in Q1 2025 and 10052 in Q2 2025.
The breakdown by model in Q1 and Q2 2025:

Model	Registrations in Q1 and Q2 2025
Atto	2364
Dolphin	2767
Seal and Seal U	12838
Sealion	1192

If the Seal and Seal U are treated as different models, then they would be too few for the top 10.

 

[jon0844]

Agree @jon0844 although perhaps EV brand counts for a lot?

A Volvo dealership locally (south coast) has a swathe of pre-reg large EV SUVs. Some are pre-reg'd back to 23-plate; and yet still sit on the dealership forecourt.
I have seen many moved (transporter) around its dealership network; only to return here 6 months later.

As someone who owned a few Volvo models over the years, at the smaller end of the range (V40 and V50) I no longer have any car to choose from that suit my needs. Volvo has basically become a Chinese car maker, designed by Swedes, for Americans.

The EX30 didn't appeal to me as the interior is too bland, and I want some physical buttons and a driver binnacle. I expect the revised model will get at least the former, and possibly the latter.

Like Ford and others that ditched small cars because they could only see the market through the eyes of Americans, I do hope Volvo will introduce some smaller cars and perhaps something that resembles the practicality of the V50 for those that didn't need or want a big estate car or SUV. Obviously there are now alternatives, which is perhaps why Volvo will lose out by having done what it has done.

My parents had an XC90 and it was lovely to be in, but totally impractical for almost all day-to-day driving. I see there's an EX60 coming but that seems too big too.

But, I am sure Volvo knows what it is doing (!). I guess they still have a fair degree of loyalty from customers, especially in Scandinavia, but I still think they need a more dynamic portfolio.

 

[E27007]

Does it really matter in the long run? They aren't going to be scrapped, so will be on the road sooner or later. It may skew the figures a bit month-by-month but will average out over the year.

As long as we have plate changes twice a year and people who want a car with the latest plate, we'll also see a spike in registrations at those times also.

These 'tricks' have applied to all cars for decades so the same will apply to the petrol and diesel cars in the lists too.

The real story masked behind the PR from various bodies concerning ZEV sales should be known, according to website (link Autovista) ,the manufacturers are artificially driving up ZEV demand by subsidising sales to the sum of £11,000 per ZEV.

Autovista

I am aware of the tactical "tricks" employed by the manufacturers and dealers to meet headline figures of sales volume and sales bonus awards.
For the ZEV registrations figures for December, I believe many observers of the ZEV transition would like to know how many of the ZEV registrations were genuine sales to end users and how many were tactical registrations for avoidance of the £12,000 penalty per car shortfall below the 28% target for the ZEV mandate for the year 2025.
I suspect a significant number of those ZEV registrations are phantom sales.

 

[AM9]

I agree about the tactical "tricks" employed by the manufacturers and dealers to meet headline figures of sales volume and sales bonus awards.
For the ZEV registrations figures for December, I believe many observers would like to know how many of the ZEV registrations were genuine sales to end users and how many were tactical registrations for avoidance of the £12,000 penalty per car shortfalls of the target for the ZEV mandate for the year 2025.
I suspect a significant number of those ZEV registrations are phantom sales.

I doubt that a split of those numbers will be declared either voluntarily or resulting from a government directive. In reality they only account for a limited slip in actual switch to ZEVs, the industry moves most of them within rhe next year's sales. It seems that those against the move to EVs see them as an indicator of a halt in the switch that they can weaponise in their arguments.

 

[E27007]

I doubt that a split of those numbers will be declared either voluntarily or resulting from a government directive. In reality they only account for a limited slip in actual switch to ZEVs, the industry moves most of them within rhe next year's sales. It seems that those against the move to EVs see them as an indicator of a halt in the switch that they can weaponise in their arguments.

Yes, even a FOI to DVLA to ascertain the number of December 2025 vehicle registrations declared as SORN would not reveal the figure, such pre-registered vehicles are neither SORN or taxed, they are "within the motor trade".

 

[BananaRepublic]

New car sales figures for December are out
Electric car percentages have increased

BEV battery electric vehicles 47,139 cars 32.2%
HEV hybrid electric vehicles 18,430 cars 12.6%
PHEV plug in hybrid vehicle 16,898 cars 11.6%
Petrol 57,607 cars 39.4%
diesel 6175 cars 4.2%

For 2025 (whole year) 2,020,520 cars were sold

UK New Car Registration Data - Latest Figures & Statistics | SMMT

Discover the latest UK car registration data: new car registration statistics, the number of cars in the UK, and more.

www.smmt.co.uk

Quite surprisingly how electric is getting close to petrol volumes, but there are lots more good small electric cars now available. And more being launched in 2026

It’s not surprising as the number of pure petrol vehicles available is rapidly reducing.

The SMMT headline figures used to include mild-hybrids as a separate category, but since possibly 2024, have included them under Petrol.
The running total for the whole of 2025 up to and including November, showed Petrol at 47% market share, but this consisted of about 26.5% pure petrol and 20.5% mild-hybrid Petrol.
The yearly total including December, won’t be too far away from these running total percentages.

That clearly indicates that “pure Petrol” (i.e. no form of electrification employed) has fallen to just above a quarter of the market.
Although it should be pointed out that approximately 75% of new registrations still have an ICE being employed in some capacity (PHEV, HEV, MHEV as well as pure Petrol).

The whole of 2025 numbers show BEV registrations at 23.4% market share and that’s with cheaper, more affordable BEV models only recently starting to become available, with many more new models in the pipeline.
Adding almost half a million new BEV’s to UK roads in one year is significant progress, by any measure.
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[Snow1964]

The whole of 2025 numbers show BEV registrations at 23.4% market share and that’s with cheaper, more affordable BEV models only recently starting to become available, with many more new models in the pipeline.
Adding almost half a million new BEV’s to UK roads in one year is significant progress, by any measure.

Many of the small compact electric cars only became available towards end of 2025 eg BYD dolphin surf, Renault 5, Hyundai , Citroen e-C3 etc

More small EVs are coming, I understand Kia EV2 is being launched in Brussels today, next month is CUPRA Raval, with the Volkswagen version called ID2 not far behind.

There are also lots of slightly bigger, small family size cars now coming on stream, or coming soon, that weren't on sale year ago, eg Nissan juke EV, Renault 4, Omoda 3, VW Polo ID, Skoda Epiq etc

So whilst average for whole year might have been 23.4% for BEV, December was 32.2% which is probably highest percentage for a single month so far.

Meanwhile the number of petrol stations continues to decline, although decline is slower than few years ago, as sites became uneconomic to continue. Now around 8300 petrol stations in UK (it was over 50,000 in late 1950s) although the remainder tend to be bigger.

 

[Mawkie]

Meanwhile the number of petrol stations continues to decline, although decline is slower than few years ago, as sites became uneconomic to continue. Now around 8300 petrol stations in UK (it was over 50,000 in late 1950s) although the remainder tend to be bigger.

Of course, at the same time the number of EV charging points has increased dramatically.

Zap-Map has the figures.

At the end of December 2025, there were 87,796 electric vehicle charging points across the UK, across 45,033 charging locations, 116,052 EVSE* and 122,071 connectors.

This is in addition to the 1 million charging point installed in homes and workplaces.

 

[styles]

Already decided my next car will be EV. It'll be a few years until our trusty diesel is run into the ground, by which time the small amount of range anxiety I have about the way we use our car will be resolved most likely.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Many of the small compact electric cars only became available towards end of 2025 eg BYD dolphin surf, Renault 5, Hyundai , Citroen e-C3 etc

More small EVs are coming, I understand Kia EV2 is being launched in Brussels today, next month is CUPRA Raval, with the Volkswagen version called ID2 not far behind……

I might have worded it poorly, but that was my point.
BEV market share already reaching almost a quarter of the market, before the effects of wide availability of smaller and lower cost EV’s has made a real impact.

EV2, ID Polo, ID Cross, Micra (R5 clone), Epiq, Raval and others are coming this year.

As you point out, the likes of the R5, R4, Frontera/eC3, Inster, Dolphin Surf, Grande Panda have only recently gone on sale towards the end of 2025.


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[thejuggler]

Was with a friend last night who has owned his used 3 year old Peugeot EV for about 3 months. He was in a courtesy car after the electrics developed problems. Started with some issues with eletrical ancilliaries, then warnings whilst it was charging.

He has been told from the diagnostics it may be uneconomical to repair as they suspect a problem with the main battery.

 

[MicroLithium]

Was with a friend last night who has owned his used 3 year old Peugeot EV for about 3 months. He was in a courtesy car after the electrics developed problems. Started with some issues with eletrical ancilliaries, then warnings whilst it was charging.

He has been told from the diagnostics it may be uneconomical to repair as they suspect a problem with the main battery.

It should be under warranty - Peugeot offer an 8 year warranty on the traction battery

 

[BananaRepublic]

Kia unveils their EV2

Kia guns for Renault 4 with new 278-mile EV2 – for less than £25k | Autocar

Supermini-sized electric crossover, intended to make Kia EVs more accessible, draws on bigger siblings

www.autocar.co.uk