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CallmeDave

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As posted earlier, there are a pair of 455s and 458/5 out today. These are the diagrams as shown on LRR

5719 5729
0941 2H24 Shepperton - Waterloo
1042 2H23 Waterloo - Shepperton
1141 1H32 Shepperton - Waterloo
1243 1H31 London - Shepperton
1341 1H40 Shepperton - Waterloo
1445 1H39 Waterloo - Shepperton
1541 1H48 Shepperton - Waterloo
1642 1H47 Waterloo - Shepperton
1741 1H56 Shepperton - Waterloo
1842 1H55 Waterloo - Shepperton
1941 1H64 Shepperton - Waterloo
2042 1H63 Waterloo - Shepperton
2141 1H72 Shepperton - Waterloo
2242 1H71 Waterloo - Shepperton
2341 2H80 Shepperton - Waterloo

458530/33

0927 2K17 Waterloo - Waterloo
1100 2O25 Waterloo - Waterloo
1227 2K29 Waterloo - Waterloo
1400 2O37 Waterloo - Waterloo
1527 2K41 Waterloo - Waterloo
1700 2O49 Waterloo - Waterloo
1827 2K53 Waterloo - Waterloo
2000 2O61 Waterloo - Waterloo
2127 2K65 Waterloo - Waterloo
2300 2O73 Waterloo - Waterloo
 

Stephen42

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Are we likely to see any scrap drags next week?
The Wimbledon to Derby drag has appeared for Monday with similar timings to normal
 

TT-ONR-NRN

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South Western Railway inner-suburban fleet
AS OF 3/12/2025:

- 455/7
455701, 455702, 455703, 455704, 455705, 455706, 455707, 455708, 455709, 455711, 455713, 455714, 455715, 455718, 455720, 455722, 455723, 455724, 455725, 455726, 455728, 455730, 455731, 455733, 455735, 455736, 455738, 455739, 455740, 455741, 455742, 455750 done & dusted.

455710, 455712, 455716, 455717, 455719, 455721, 455727, 455729, 455732, 455734, 455737, in service, outgoing.


- 455/8
455847, 455848, 455849, 455850, 455851, 455852, 455853, 455854, 455855, 455856, 455857, 455859, 455860, 455861, 455862, 455864, 455865, 455866, 455867, 455868, 455869, 455872, 455874 done & dusted.

455863, 455870, 455871, 455873 in service, outgoing.


- 455/9
455901-920 done & dusted.

- 456
455901-920 done & dusted.

- 458/4
458401-428 in service.

- 458/5
458530, 458533, 458535 in service, outgoing.

458501-528*, 458529, 458531, 458532, 458534, 458536 done & dusted.
*converted to 458/4


- 701/0
Gradually being introduced into service.

- 707
707001-701030 transferred to SouthEastern.
I'm going to take down the fleet list now after five years, as no 455s will be planned operational from Tuesday - leaving only three 458/5s from the outgoing fleet to be withdrawn. I considered if it was worth keeping a list for which 455s have been scrapped and which haven't, but we all know just how rapid they've being sent to the grinder's axe, so it seems a bit pointless. Obviously, we can keep track of that in posts.

I do want to apologise for the greater simplicity of the list in later years. I did begin the list as an 18 year old first year uni student with all the time in the world, so I was pleased to maintain a very detailed list, with specific notes like what units were on maintenance, or stopped for exams, and locations and stuff - as I graduated, did my masters, relocated twice across the world and began immersed in my career full time, it soon became very difficult to constantly update on a very rapidly changing fleet situation.

But the thread has been kept fabulously up to date thanks to the invaluable information from @bb21 and @TEW instead, along with anyone else who I might be unintentionally forgetting, and I know others will join me in thanking them for all of that great gen.

For nostalgic comparative purposes though - if anyone wants to see just how much the fleet has changed since I first made the thread/list - take a look at the first update ;)

Thursday, November 18th 2021
Updated list


455701 Operational with SWR

455702 Operational with SWR
455703 Operational with SWR

455704 Stopped, out of miles
455705 Operational with SWR
455706 Operational with SWR
455707 Operational with SWR
455708 Operational with SWR
455709 Operational with SWR
455710 Operational with SWR
455711 Operational with SWR
455712 Operational with SWR
455713 Operational with SWR
455714 Operational with SWR
455715 Operational with SWR
455716 Operational with SWR

455717 Operational but low on miles
455718 Operational with SWR
455719 Operational with SWR
455720 Operational with SWR
455721 Operational with SWR
455722 Operational with SWR
455723 Operational with SWR
455724 Operational with SWR

455725 Long-term out of use
455726 Long-term out of use
455727 Operational with SWR
455728 Operational with SWR
455729 Operational with SWR
455730 Operational with SWR
455731 Operational with SWR
455732 Operational with SWR
455733 Operational with SWR
455734 Operational with SWR
455735 Operational with SWR

455736 Stopped, out of miles
455737 Operational with SWR
455738 Operational but low on miles
455739 Operational with SWR
455740 Long-term out of use
455741 Operational with SWR
455742 Operational with SWR

455750 Operational but low on miles

455847 Long-term out of use
455848 Long-term out of use

455849 Operational with SWR
455850 Operational with SWR
455851 Operational with SWR
455852 Operational with SWR
455853 Operational with SWR

455854 Long-term out of use
455855 Stopped, out of miles
455856 Operational with SWR
455857 Operational with SWR
455858 Operational with SWR
455859 Operational with SWR
455860 Operational with SWR
455861 Operational with SWR
455862 Operational with SWR
455863 Operational with SWR
455864 Operational with SWR
455865 Operational with SWR

455866 Long-term out of use / Goes off lease Feb 22
455867 Operational with SWR
455868 Operational with SWR
455869 Operational with SWR
455870 Operational with SWR
455871 Operational with SWR
455872 Operational with SWR
455873 Operational with SWR
455874 Operational with SWR

455901 Operational with SWR
455902 Operational with SWR
455903 Operational with SWR
455904 Operational with SWR

455905 Long-term out of use
455906 Operational with SWR
455907 Long-term out of use
455908 Operational with SWR
455909 Operational with SWR
455910 Operational with SWR
455911 Operational with SWR
455912 Operational with SWR

455913 Long-term out of use
455914 Operational with SWR
455915 Operational with SWR
455916 Operational with SWR
455917 Operational with SWR

455918 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455919 Operational with SWR
455920 Operational with SWR


456001 Long-term out of use
456002 Operational with SWR
456003 Operational with SWR
456004 Operational with SWR

456005 Long-term out of use
456006 Operational with SWR
456007 Operational with SWR
456008 Operational with SWR
456009 Operational with SWR
456010 Operational with SWR
456011 Operational with SWR
456012 Operational with SWR
456013 Operational with SWR
456014 Operational with SWR
456015 Operational with SWR
456016 Operational with SWR

456017 Long-term out of use
456018 Long-term out of use

456019 Operational with SWR
456020 Operational with SWR
456021 Operational with SWR
456022 Operational with SWR
456023 Operational with SWR
456024 Operational with SWR

458501 Operational with SWR
458502 Operational with SWR
458503 Operational with SWR

458504 Long-term out of use
458505 Operational with SWR
458506 Long-term out of use
458507 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458508 Operational with SWR
458509 Operational with SWR
458510 Operational with SWR
458511 Operational with SWR
458512 Operational with SWR -
will soon be temporarily withdrawn for C6
458513 Operational with SWR
458514 Operational with SWR
458515 Operational with SWR
458516 Operational with SWR

458517 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458518 Operational with SWR
458519 Operational with SWR
458520 Operational with SWR
458521 Operational with SWR
458522 Operational with SWR
458523 Operational with SWR
458524 Operational with SWR
458525 Operational with SWR
458526 Operational with SWR
458527 Operational with SWR
458528 Operational with SWR

458529 Long-term out of use
458530 Operational with SWR
458531 Operational with SWR
458532 Operational with SWR
458533 Operational with SWR

458534 Off-lease
458535 Long-term out of use
458536 Operational with SWR

707001 Transferred to SouthEastern
707002 Operational with SWR
707003 Transferred to SouthEastern
707004 Transferred to SouthEastern
707005 Transferred to SouthEastern
707006 Transferred to SouthEastern
707007 Transferred to SouthEastern
707008
Transferred to SouthEastern
707009 Transferred to SouthEastern
707010
Transferred to SouthEastern
707011 Transferred to SouthEastern
707012 Transferred to SouthEastern

707013 Operational with SWR
707014 Operational with SWR
707015 Operational with SWR
707016 Operational with SWR
707017 Operational with SWR
707018 Operational with SWR
707019 Operational with SWR
707020 Operational with SWR
707021 Operational with SWR
707022 Operational with SWR
707023 Operational with SWR
707024 Operational with SWR

707025 Transferred to SouthEastern
707026 Transferred to SouthEastern
707027 Transferred to SouthEastern
707028
Transferred to SouthEastern
707029 Transferred to SouthEastern
707030 Operational with SWR

List denotes the status of SWR's Metro / Inner-Suburban fleet
Class 450 and Class 701 units are not shown as these will remain with SWR permanently
Class 450 and Class 458 units are planned to be withdrawn from Inner-Suburban duties

Currently, 0x Class 701 units are in service

And while I'm all for the 701 introduction (I'm not a fan of 455s), as it coincides with my journey from Manchester to my family home on the Alton line, I will be taking a last trip on Tuesday ;) And for those who will also be having a last hoorah on the old red trains, have a great last journey. :rf:
 

442Haz

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I'm going to take down the fleet list now after five years, as no 455s will be planned operational from Tuesday - leaving only three 458/5s from the outgoing fleet to be withdrawn. I considered if it was worth keeping a list for which 455s have been scrapped and which haven't, but we all know just how rapid they've being sent to the grinder's axe, so it seems a bit pointless. Obviously, we can keep track of that in posts.

I do want to apologise for the greater simplicity of the list in later years. I did begin the list as an 18 year old first year uni student with all the time in the world, so I was pleased to maintain a very detailed list, with specific notes like what units were on maintenance, or stopped for exams, and locations and stuff - as I graduated, did my masters, relocated twice across the world and began immersed in my career full time, so it became very difficult to constantly update a very rapidly changing fleet list then! But I think the thread has been kept fabulously up to date thanks to the invaluable information from @bb21 and @TEW, along with anyone else who I might be unintentionally forgetting, and I know others will join me in thanking them for all of that great gen.

For nostalgic comparative purposes though - if anyone wants to see just how much the fleet has changed since I first made the thread/list - take a look at the first update ;)
You’ve done an absolutely superb job so no apologies needed. The information has helped on many a time for folk wishing to catch a certain unit in real time.

I think we’ve all had more time than we initially expected to ride these workhorses one final time, time to see them off in style. Thanks for all your work on the list!
 

Peter Mugridge

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...and the tour has made the BBC News website, even on the main home page with the actual report linking to the Surrey local news page.

Unfortunately the picture they're using is a little misleading, although it does at least include a 455 in the background... screenshot below...


Screen reader decoder: Screenshot of the headline and picture of a BBC News website article entitled "Farewell tour for 40 year old Surrey train fleet", prominently featuring 701 043 at Waterloo with a 455 in the background.


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cinsekrap

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...and the tour has made the BBC News website, even on the main home page with the actual report linking to the Surrey local news page.

Unfortunately the picture they're using is a little misleading, although it does at least include a 455 in the background... screenshot below...


Screen reader decoder: Screenshot of the headline and picture of a BBC News website article entitled "Farewell tour for 40 year old Surrey train fleet", prominently featuring 701 043 at Waterloo with a 455 in the background.


View attachment 194318
Quite good imagery though - 701 going in, 455 going out. Ish.
 

cduncan

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What is the best way to see which diagrams will be running on Monday and Tuesday?
WM601/602 WM603/604 WM605/606 totalling 3 455 pairs. Tuesday however WM601/602 WM603/604 are finishing at Wimbledon Park instead of being berthed at Waterloo/Guildford sidings.
 

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brad465

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Could have they not used the unit that had been repainted in the old BR livery for the farewell tour?
It's at Derby and a bit broken from what has been reported up thread.
In an enthusiast group, earlier this week someone said apparently the unit did have a buyer for preservation, however transporting it risked bankrupting them (or any other buyer) due to heavy liability costs if the transport was disrupted, so withdrew. As a result, it's currently in the scrap queue with only a few units infront of them.
 

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One thing I have noticed about the SWR 455s is that they do not show "455" on the front. They have the individual class number but not what class it is. The Southern ones did have "455" on the front. Was this something that got carried over from SWT and BR?
Yes, traditional Southern Region referencing. In fact in the railway you'll still often hear 6 digit unit numbers referred to by just the last four - potentially confusing for newbies not familiar with the heritage.
 

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Gosh, this marks the end of checking in on the operational members of the outgoing SWR fleet decrease at a glacial pace. Truly feels like a borderline hobby being brought to a close - but good job SWR for finally getting there, as I'm certainly a member of the "not a 455 fan" club. Still sad, in a way, but having ridden a 701 I must say the replacement train is very lovely and a marked upgrade, so thats certainly a good thing for regular users.

The railways are a funny old place, the 150s outlasted their electric counterpart, the more modern (and aesthetically pleasing) 456s fared even worse, and those poor 458/5s! Still, I'm sure for those willing to head to Manchester, Leeds or anywhere in between, you'll have many many more years to enjoy BRELs Mk3 derived MUs!
 
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Class 455 Allocations - Monday December 22nd

WM601/602 - 5721+5732


5G10 05:38 Guildford UCS - Guildford 05:49
2G10 06:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 07:08
2F09 07:17 London Waterloo - Woking 08:08
2F96 08:20 Woking - London Waterloo 09:04
5Y83 09:22 London Waterloo - Wimbledon Park D 10:11

5F91 15:54 Wimbledon Park D - London Waterloo 16:34
2F91 17:02 London Waterloo - Guildford 17:57
2G58 18:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 19:07
2M57 19:17 London Waterloo - Chessington Sth 19:51
2M64 20:10 Chessington Sth - London Waterloo 20:46
2D63 20:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 22:02
2D78 22:45 Guildford - London Waterloo 23:56
5D78 00:15 London Waterloo - Waterloo C.H.S. 00:17

WM603/604 - 5719+5729

5G05 05:44 Waterloo C.H.S. - London Waterloo 05:46
2G05 06:00 London Waterloo - Guildford 07:01
2D18 07:42 Guildford - London Waterloo 08:55
2J17 09:06 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 09:43
2J24 09:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 10:31
2D23 10:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 12:02
2D36 12:45 Guildford - London Waterloo 13:55
2J37 14:06 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 14:43
2J44 14:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 15:31
2D43 15:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 17:02
2G54 17:09 Guildford - London Waterloo 18:10
2F53 18:20 London Waterloo - Woking 19:10
2F62 19:33 Woking - London Waterloo 20:22
2G63 20:33 London Waterloo - Guildford 21:37
2G74 22:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 23:10
2F73 23:20 London - Waterloo Woking 00:10
5F73 00:14 Woking - Guildford UCS 00:22

WM605/606 - 5870+5873

5J97 05:23 Wimbledon Park D - Hampton Court 05:45
2J08 05:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 06:31
1D07 06:39 London Waterloo - Dorking 07:33
1D16 07:48 Dorking - London Waterloo 08:46
2G17 09:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 10:07
2G28 10:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 11:37
2F27 11:50 London Waterloo - Woking 12:38
2F36 13:03 Woking - London Waterloo 13:52
2G37 14:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 15:07
2G48 15:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 16:37
2F47 16:50 London Waterloo - Woking 17:40
2F56 18:03 Woking - London Waterloo 18:52
2G57 19:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 20:05
2G68 20:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 21:37
2F67 21:50 London Waterloo - Woking 22:38
2F80 23:04 Woking - London Waterloo 23:54
5Y68 00:07 London Waterloo Wimbledon Park D 00:54

5712+5717

5M03 0556 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs - Wimbledon 0608
2M03 0609 Wimbledon - Chessington South 0627
2M10 0634 Chessington South - London Waterloo 0711
2M09 0720 London Waterloo - Chessington South 0757
2M16 0804 Chessington South - London Waterloo 0843
2F15 0850 London Waterloo - Woking 0938
2F24 1003 Woking - London Waterloo 1052
2G25 1103 London Waterloo - Guildford 1209
2G36 1234 Guildford - London Waterloo 1337
2M35 1347 London Waterloo - Chessington South 1423
2M42 1434 Chessington South - London Waterloo 1510
2F41 1520 London Waterloo - Woking 1608
2F50 1633 Woking - London Waterloo 1722
2J51 1736 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 1815
2J58 1824 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 1901
1D57 1923 London Waterloo - Dorking 2014
1D66 2032 Dorking - London Waterloo 2126
2J67 2136 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 2213
2J74 2224 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 2303
1D73 2310 London Waterloo - Dorking 0001
5Y70 0009 Dorking - Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 0049

5727+5871

5D89 0529 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs - Epsom - Up Sidings 0603
5D90 0611 Epsom - Up Sidings - Epsom 0613
2D90 0618 Epsom - London Waterloo 0656
2J09 0706 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 0743
2J16 0753 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 0833
2D15 0853 London Waterloo - Guildford 1002
2D28 1045 Guildford - London Waterloo 1155
2J29 1206 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 1243
2J36 1254 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 1331
2D35 1353 London Waterloo - Guildford 1502
2D48 1528 Guildford - London Waterloo 1646
2J49 1706 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 1743
2J56 1754 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 1831
2D55 1853 London Waterloo - Guildford 2012
2D68 2045 Guildford - London Waterloo 2155
2J69 2206 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 2243
2J76 2254 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 2331
5Y65 2352 London Waterloo - Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 0028

5716

5V49 1633 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs - London Waterloo 1649
2V49 1707 London Waterloo - London Waterloo 1832
2H97 1843 London Waterloo - Shepperton 1929
2H64 1936 Shepperton - London Waterloo 2024
2H63 2042 London Waterloo - Shepperton 2135
2H72 2141 Shepperton - London Waterloo 2234
2H71 2242 London Waterloo - Shepperton 2336
5H80 2341 Shepperton - Strawberry Hill C.S.D. 0006


Class 458/5 Allocations - Monday December 22nd

458530


5C09 0542 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo 0558
2C09 0620 London Waterloo to Reading 0742
2C20 0809 Reading to London Waterloo 0935
2C23 0950 London Waterloo to Reading 1113
2C34 1139 Reading to London Waterloo 1305

2V43 1537 London Waterloo to London Waterloo 1700
2R49 1715 London Waterloo to London Waterloo 1841
2S59 1852 London Waterloo to Weybridge 2010
2S68 2033 Weybridge to London Waterloo 2156
2U73 2233 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside 2326
2U80 2337 Windsor & Eton Riverside to Staines 2351
5U80 2355 Staines to Staines C.H.S. 2359

458533

5C05 0450 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo 0509
2C05 0526 London Waterloo to Reading 0648
2C16 0709 Reading to London Waterloo 0836
5Y81 0850 London Waterloo to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 0943

458535

5R02 0538 Staines C.H.S. - Hounslow 0559
2R02 0601 Hounslow - London Waterloo 0638
2S11 0652 London Waterloo - Weybridge 0808
2S20 0833 Weybridge - London Waterloo 0957
5Y86 1010 London Waterloo - Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 1059

Expected to operate:

5S47 1523 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo 1539
2S47 1552 London Waterloo to Weybridge 1708
2S56 1740 Weybridge to London Waterloo 1856
2V57 1907 London Waterloo to Twickenham 1956
5V58 2000 Twickenham to London Waterloo 2022 (Reminder: ECS)
2S73 2222 London Waterloo to Weybridge 2338
5Y66 2342 Weybridge to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 0027


Also don't forget the Class 455 scrap move from Wimbledon to Derby, passes Clapham Jct at 1024:

 
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Class 455 Allocations - Monday December 22nd

WM601/602 - 5721+5732


5G10 05:38 Guildford UCS - Guildford 05:49
2G10 06:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 07:08
2F09 07:17 London Waterloo - Woking 08:08
2F96 08:20 Woking - London Waterloo 09:04
5Y83 09:22 London Waterloo - Wimbledon Park D 10:11

5F91 15:54 Wimbledon Park D - London Waterloo 16:34
2F91 17:02 London Waterloo - Guildford 17:57
2G58 18:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 19:07
2M57 19:17 London Waterloo - Chessington Sth 19:51
2M64 20:10 Chessington Sth - London Waterloo 20:46
2D63 20:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 22:02
2D78 22:45 Guildford - London Waterloo 23:56
5D78 00:15 London Waterloo - Waterloo C.H.S. 00:17

WM603/604 - 5719+5729

5G05 05:44 Waterloo C.H.S. - London Waterloo 05:46
2G05 06:00 London Waterloo - Guildford 07:01
2D18 07:42 Guildford - London Waterloo 08:55
2J17 09:06 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 09:43
2J24 09:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 10:31
2D23 10:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 12:02
2D36 12:45 Guildford - London Waterloo 13:55
2J37 14:06 London Waterloo - Hampton Court 14:43
2J44 14:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 15:31
2D43 15:53 London Waterloo - Guildford 17:02
2G54 17:09 Guildford - London Waterloo 18:10
2F53 18:20 London Waterloo - Woking 19:10
2F62 19:33 Woking - London Waterloo 20:22
2G63 20:33 London Waterloo - Guildford 21:37
2G74 22:04 Guildford - London Waterloo 23:10
2F73 23:20 London - Waterloo Woking 00:10
5F73 00:14 Woking - Guildford UCS 00:22

WM605/606 - 5870+5873

5J97 05:23 Wimbledon Park D - Hampton Court 05:45
2J08 05:54 Hampton Court - London Waterloo 06:31
1D07 06:39 London Waterloo - Dorking 07:33
1D16 07:48 Dorking - London Waterloo 08:46
2G17 09:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 10:07
2G28 10:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 11:37
2F27 11:50 London Waterloo - Woking 12:38
2F36 13:03 Woking - London Waterloo 13:52
2G37 14:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 15:07
2G48 15:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 16:37
2F47 16:50 London Waterloo - Woking 17:40
2F56 18:03 Woking - London Waterloo 18:52
2G57 19:03 London Waterloo - Guildford 20:05
2G68 20:34 Guildford - London Waterloo 21:37
2F67 21:50 London Waterloo - Woking 22:38
2F80 23:04 Woking - London Waterloo 23:54
5Y68 00:07 London Waterloo Wimbledon Park D 00:54

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Class 458/5 Allocations - Monday December 22nd

458535


5R02 0538 Staines C.H.S. - Hounslow 0559
2R02 0601 Hounslow - London Waterloo 0638
2S11 0652 London Waterloo - Weybridge 0808
2S20 0833 Weybridge - London Waterloo 0957
5Y86 1010 London Waterloo - Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 1059

Expected to operate:

5S47 1523 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo 1539
2S47 1552 London Waterloo to Weybridge 1708
2S56 1740 Weybridge to London Waterloo 1856
2V57 1907 London Waterloo to Twickenham 1956
5V58 2000 Twickenham to London Waterloo 2022 (Reminder: ECS)
2S73 2222 London Waterloo to Weybridge 2338
5Y66 2342 Weybridge to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 0027
Seen from realtimetrains saying that the four sets used on yesterday tour, also operate today, and 530, 533 also out too
 

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In an enthusiast group, earlier this week someone said apparently the unit did have a buyer for preservation, however transporting it risked bankrupting them (or any other buyer) due to heavy liability costs if the transport was disrupted, so withdrew. As a result, it's currently in the scrap queue with only a few units infront of them.
So looks like no 455 or 456 units (including 455868) will survive.
At least some MK3 based suburban classes : 150, 313, 314, 507, 508 will survive.

The 150 unit will be moved from Derby to MHR Alton tomorrow, so presume the MHR (and Porterbrook?) have taken any liability costs in hand if the move goes wrong?
455868 (or one of the 455 units at Wimbledon) perhaps could have been moved at the same time to a suitable siding in the SWR area where it could have been stored until a permanent static location could be confirmed?

If not at least the 150 will occasionally run early mornings at the MHR (or some diesel galas) to give a MK3 based suburban train experience.
Plus the saved 313 or 507 units, alongside first generation DMU / EMUs at various heritage railways (or push pull TC4s from the LU depot or Swanage railway). Also one MK3 based 442 express driving carriage from unit 442401 has been saved as part of a HST unit (at Northumbria or Neve Valley Railway?).
 
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