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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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Juniper Driver
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Saw it between Woking and West Byfleet at 13:00, not sure what it was being dragged by...Was it a 69?
NSEWonderer
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Surprised to see my Pass train being 701030 which was introduced today as earlier posts mention. Working up to Waterloo from Windsor this evening.
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Big Jumby 74
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Think this thread must be getting to you (my bold) lol !
NSEWonderer
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Haha sorry
GW43125
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4/9 Reading diagrams were 701 on Saturday.
None on the Barnes-Woking runs on Sunday so I wonder whether there's a crew competence gap there? (as well as the service only being hourly)
Peter Sarf
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Yes. Had me fooled, I was totally confused by the reported loco as well.The move is on for today, I forgot that the previous attempt the loco didn't look to leave Marchwood. 47739 doing the honours today, drag is approaching Eastleigh now:
Realtime Trains | 5Q84 1100 Marchwood Mod Gbrf to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs | 09/12/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Q84 1100 departure from Marchwood Mod Gbrf to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs on 09/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
EDIT 10/12/2025 to clarify the unit delivered is reported to be 701038. /EDIT
Might be room with 701030 just flying the nest today and 701059 last Thursday. Four 455s will be gone this week as well (if Derby does not choke)..
Only
701022,
701029 &
701032.
Left at Marchwood.
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I should imagine not, as the new livery is likely to only be applied when a repaint is due.
3141
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There will be a guarantee on the paint - around 8 years, maybe more. GBR is unlikely to wish to spend money repainting trains before that is up.
Except that's not what happened, is it.
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@Goldfish62 didn't state that it was 701033 that was directly involved.
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Snow1964
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There is another scheduled move from Marchwood to Wimbledon tomorrow (Thursday).
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Realtime Trains | 5Q84 1100 Marchwood Mod Gbrf to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs | 11/12/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Q84 1100 departure from Marchwood Mod Gbrf to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs on 11/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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It wasn't a person hit by train.
I'd already clarified what happened.
Out again today. It's gone to Reading (Wednesday) morning.Appears to be running a one off service today on the 2J92 07:52 Surbiton to Waterloo service, before returning to Wimbledon Park
Realtime Trains | 2J92 0752 Surbiton to London Waterloo | 09/12/2025
Real-time train running information for 2J92 0752 departure from Surbiton to London Waterloo on 09/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Saturday had Reading to Waterloo services only calling Kingston and Strawberry Hill, with Windsor services taking the roundabout paths and additional Kingston bay to Barnes trains. So 6 an hour!! There were 701s on Reading.
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Are we likely to get details of next weeks’s two new diagrams today? Or will they not show up in the STPs because they are being wrapped into the new timetable changes?
I'm sure they will be posted once we know what they are
It is up to 32 diagrams but that does involve changes to current diagrams too with the start of the new timetable. I will type them out later when I get a chance.
Peter Wilde
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Interesting - but will the 8 years run from now, or the original date the stock was intended to start running?
PG
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It depends on who provides the guarantee - if it is the paint manufacturer then it'll most likely start from the date of application, so some will already be out of guarantee!
Roylang
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But isn’t that why vinyls became prevalent? The paint is untouched and remains within warranty.
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Big Jumby 74
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I'm no expert in vinyls as applied to trains, but as has been touched on above, paint, and good quality/application of same, goes a long way to delaying corrosion in many applications. To my mind vinyls can be a good (and cheaper?) way of adding temporary themes to train body shells, be it Poppy Day appeal or what ever, something that can then be removed at a later date without causing any significant damage to the underlying paint.
From personal experience I found water based paint in the auto trade, has its drawbacks durability wise, but that's another story!
From personal experience I found water based paint in the auto trade, has its drawbacks durability wise, but that's another story!
But the vinyls have to be applied carefully so that water cannot find it's way underneath the vinyl layer and then cause corrosion, i think that has been a problem with older stock.
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The SW Desiro fleet went around 15 to in some cases nearly 20 years before a repaint. With the 450s and 444s having just had a major mid-term thorough repaint, I don’t think GBR is going to make much of an impact in our part of the world other than a few vinyl overlays and logos.
Back to the thread, living down in the Solent area although I have seen many 701s I think it could be quite a while until I have the opportunity to travel on one unfortunately.
Back to the thread, living down in the Solent area although I have seen many 701s I think it could be quite a while until I have the opportunity to travel on one unfortunately.
Snow1964
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The first post in the thread is regularly updated to show current status
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From Monday 32 10 car sets diagrammed each day on a variety of former 455 routes with 34(?) accepted for passenger use.
dodger
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It's booked to transfer to Bournemouth depot on 5B39 this morning. Was there a similar move on 5Q47 yesterday?
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Snow1964
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There is one more week where some 455s might be used, then Christmas and New Year weeks which are never as busy (mainline trains might be 8 cars releasing 450s),
The real test of diagrams will come Monday 5th January, when most people go back to work. It is unclear how busy it will be (especially as some big companies are upping office days for 2026) as SWR is still operating a thinned out timetable (and to old slower 455 timings) even though the recent ORR station usage figures showed some stations at a 25 year high (eg Virginia Water, Godalming etc)