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Thoughts on the Trump presidency

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Which is fine if Trump is only a temporary blip and the USA makes a return to normality once he has gone, even if it takes a while. But it is my opinion that those behind him are intending to completely change the way that the country functions and the basis for its society’s behaviour. The most extreme want an elected dictatorship, but most of the others are more concerned about whether it is God or Mammon who rules, but enough will find a way to combine the two.

Whether they will get a North Korea-lite system with Donald Jnr. taking over, to be followed by Eric, Barron and offspring, or whether they will just dig out a compliant front man, remains to be seen. Trump’s early (probable) demise is a bit of a problem for them, but they are moving fast to skew the system before they lose an election, so that in due course elections will be irrelevant.

I think there’s something in this, but I’m slightly optimistic.

If Trump (and the people he’s put in positions of power) were more competent than they actually are, they probably could have taken this further.
What’s missing at the moment though is anyone with his charisma to be able to rally people around them.

I don’t think he cares who comes after him though, and I predict that the infighting is going to be quite something to behold.
 
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As I see it, A dictator is always a dead-end road, especially one like Trump who wants absolute power, and will throw everyone under the bus who becomes a rival to him, and might steal what he sees are rightfully his,
Depends. The people who enabled Franco, especially towards the end of his reign, are still very influential within Spanish society.

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I don’t think he cares who comes after him though, and I predict that the infighting is going to be quite something to behold.
It's going to make the Politburo look like a cub scouts meeting.
 

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I think there’s something in this, but I’m slightly optimistic.

If Trump (and the people he’s put in positions of power) were more competent than they actually are, they probably could have taken this further.
What’s missing at the moment though is anyone with his charisma to be able to rally people around them.

I don’t think he cares who comes after him though, and I predict that the infighting is going to be quite something to behold.
Indeed, it's about loyalty to him personally, oh and deals that can be done, that work in his favour, that's why I think trump is a one-way street, see there is no succession plan, only fighting over his bloated corpse. when the time comes. Franco, at least did have a plan of sorts, he did work with the then prince of Spain, that would ensure there was a continuation after his death, I can't see Trump working with anyone,
 

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It's hard to say how much, if anything that Trump cares about what happens after his death.

One thing is certain, if the Democrats win a presidential election, most if not all of Trumps executive orders will be cancelled.

If they do take power, it will take time for the U.S.A. to recover from the damage he has done. But assuming the GOP either don't win power for two terms (or more) or the MAGA part of it is side lined, it's possible that Trump's legacy will be seen as just a very bad bump in the road.

If however MAGA somehow manage to keep some control, the U.S.A. may break up.
 

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Looks like Trump has finally got his Peace Prize... only it's from FIFA, not Nobel.


Utterly pathetic and reeking of corruption, but I wouldn't expect anything else from those clowns at FIFA nor the Senile Orange.

Infantino made Blatter look like Lincoln from what little of his mutually shared brown-nosing of the orange gasbag I was unfortunate enough to see. Hope this utter and complete self-debasement follows him for the rest of his career, nay his life.
 

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Welcome onto the stage the Prime Minister of Canada, the President of Mexico and the inaugural winner of the FIFA peace prize a man who has threatened to invaded Canada and take military action inside Mexico.
 

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I'd like to say watching the grovelling by Infantino to the big orange man child made me switch the coverage off, but sadly I can't. Because I didn't even start to watch, knowing full well that it would turn into another "Audience With Trump" event. And by the sounds of thing it did, bigly. I just hope that despite the crazy prices tickets will end up going for thanks to dynamic pricing, there will be enough real fans there to let Trump & FIFA know what we really think of them.
 

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I just hope that despite the crazy prices tickets will end up going for thanks to dynamic pricing, there will be enough real fans there to let Trump & FIFA know what we really think of them.
Between "visa assurance fees" and the aggressive enforcement of immigration rules by CBP and ICE I wouldn't be surprised to see empty stadia for many matches.
 

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Between "visa assurance fees" and the aggressive enforcement of immigration rules by CBP and ICE I wouldn't be surprised to see empty stadia for many matches.
You could be right, there's a lot of countries that will likely fall under the Trump Administration Plc's "undesirable" list, including much of Europe they way things are going over there... o_O

But seriously, even at US sporting events Trump is about as welcome as a, well Trump in a lift! So he's going to in for a shock if he expects the world's most passionate, most visible and noisy, and in the case of many Ultras the most political to be nice to him.
 

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This has passed me by. Much of a follow on from JD Vance's Munich Speech. All European governments appear to have stayed quiet on the subject.

Russia must be loving life, their funded right wing parties are successfully dividing US and Europe. Don't suppose Russia has much to gain from that....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04vdengk3do

Trump administration says Europe faces 'civilisational erasure'​

US President Donald Trump, wearing a suit and pictured in front of a US flag, looks to his right.
Image source,Reuters
ByBrandon Livesay
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      5 December 2025
US President Donald Trump's administration has warned that Europe faces "civilisational erasure" and questioned whether certain nations can remain reliable allies, in a new strategy document that puts a particular focus on the continent.
The 33-page National Security Strategy sees the US leader outline his vision for the world and how he will wield US military and economic power to work towards it.
Trump described the document as a "roadmap" to ensure the US remains "the greatest and most successful nation in human history".
European politicians have begun to react, with Germany's Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul saying his country did not need "outside advice".
A formal National Security Strategy is typically released by presidents once per term. It can form a framework for future policies and budgets, as well as signalling to the world where the president's priorities lie.
The new document follows similar rhetoric to Trump's speech to the UN earlier this year, where he had harsh criticism for western Europe and its approach to migration and clean energy.
The new report doubles down on Trump's point of view, calling for the restoration of "Western identity", combatting foreign influence, ending mass migration, and focusing more on US priorities such as stopping drug cartels.
Focusing on Europe, it asserts that if current trends continue the continent would be "unrecognisable in 20 years or less" and its economic issues are "eclipsed by the real and more stark prospect of civilisational erasure".
"It is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies," the document states.
It also accused the EU and "other transnational bodies" of carrying out activities that "undermine political liberty and sovereignty".
It said migration policies were "creating strife" and that other issues included "censorship of free speech and suppression of political opposition, cratering birthrates, and loss of national identities and self-confidence".
Conversely, the document hails the growing influence of "patriotic European parties" and says "America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit".
The Trump administration has fostered links with the far-right AfD party in Germany, which has been classified as extreme right by German intelligence.
Germany's Wadephul stressed that the "United States is and will remain our most important ally in the [Nato] alliance", but said "this alliance, however, is focused on addressing security policy issues".
"I believe questions of freedom of expression or the organisation of our free societies do not belong [in the strategy], in any case at least when it comes to Germany," he added.
Referring to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the document says Europe has a lack of "self-confidence" in its relationship with Russia.
Managing European relations with Russia will require significant US involvement, the document says, adding it is a core US interest for hostilities in Ukraine to end.
The Trump administration has proposed a plan to end the war, the original version of which called for Ukraine to hand over some territory to the de facto control of Russia.
However, Trump's envoy has presented a modified version in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that Ukrainian troops must withdraw from Ukraine's eastern Donbas region or Russia will seize it by force.
The White House strategy document repeatedly references the Western Hemisphere, and the need for the US to protect itself from outside threats.
Graphic about the USS Gerald R Ford, the world’s largest aircraft carrier. The top section shows a photo of the carrier at sea with text noting it carries about 4,600 sailors, travels as part of a “strike group” with other warships, has capacity for up to 90 aircraft, and cost around £13 billion to build. Below, a chart compares the carrier’s length (337m/1,106ft) to the height of The Shard (310m), Eiffel Tower (330m), and Empire State Building (381m). The bottom section shows an aerial photo of the flight deck with dimensions: length 337m (1,106ft), max width 78m (256ft), and flight deck area 18,000 sq m (4.5 acres). Source is US Department of Defense, US Congress.

The document says there must be a readjustment of "our global military presence to address urgent threats in our Hemisphere". To do this, the strategy calls for moving assets away from theatres which are less important to American national security than they once were.
This re-prioritising of military power can be seen already in the Caribbean, where the US military has a growing presence and has carried out repeated deadly strikes on boats which the government alleges are carrying drugs. The world's largest warship, the USS Gerald Ford, is currently based in the Caribbean along with its strike group.
Away from the western hemisphere, the Trump administration singles out the South China Sea as a key shipping passage that has major implications for the US economy, and the document says the US will "harden and strengthen our military presence in the Western Pacific".
The US also calls on an increased defence spending from Japan, South Korea, Australia and Taiwan.
It says "deterring a conflict over Taiwan, ideally by preserving military overmatch, is a priority". China views self-governed Taiwan as part of its territory and has not ruled out the use of force to "reunite" with it.
The strategy also talks of pushing for a stronger industrial base in the US and less reliance on foreign technologies, which matches some of the moves the Trump administration has taken with its sweeping global tariffs.
 

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Moscow is purring, it seems!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvd01g2kwwo

New US security strategy aligns with Russia's vision, Moscow says​

US President Donald Trump (right) shakes hands with Russian President Vladimir Putin (left) as they meet at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson on 16 August 2025 in Anchorage, Alaska.
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Vladimir Putin (left) and Donald Trump (right) last met in August for a summit as a US base in Alaska
ByRachel Muller-Heyndyk
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Updated 1 hour ago
Russia has welcomed US President Donald Trump's new National Security Strategy, calling it "largely consistent" with Moscow's vision.
The 33-page document, unveiled by the US administration this week, suggests Europe is facing "civilisational erasure" and does not cast Russia as a threat to the US.
Combatting foreign influence, ending mass migration, and rejecting the EU's perceived practice of "censorship" are mentioned as other priorities in the report.
Several EU officials and analysts had pushed back on the strategy, questioning its focus on freedom of expression and likening it to language used by the Kremlin.
"The adjustments we're seeing... are largely consistent with our vision," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said in an interview published by Russia's state news agency Tass on Sunday.
"We consider this a positive step," he said, adding that Moscow would continue to analyse the document before drawing strong conclusions.
The strategy adopts a softer language towards Russia, which EU officials worry could weaken its stance towards Moscow as it pushes for an end to the war in Ukraine.
In the document, the EU is blamed for blocking US efforts to end the conflict and says that the US must "re-establish strategic stability to Russia" which would "stabilise European economies".
It appears to endorse efforts to influence policy on the continent, noting that US policy should prioritise "resistance to Europe's current trajectory within European nations".
The new report also calls for the restoration of "Western identity", and claims that Europe will be "unrecognisable in 20 years or less" and its economic issues are "eclipsed by the real and more stark prospect of civilisational erasure".
"It is far from obvious whether certain European countries will have economies and militaries strong enough to remain reliable allies," the document states.
In stark contrast, the document celebrates the influence of "patriotic European parties" and says "America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit".
As the EU engages in ongoing talks with the Trump administration to set out a peace deal in Ukraine, some officials emphasised their lasting relationship with the US, while raising "questions" over the document.
"The US will remain our most important ally in the [Nato] alliance. This alliance, however, is focused on addressing security policy issues," German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul said on Friday.
"I believe questions of freedom of expression or the organisation of our free societies do not belong [in the strategy], in any case at least when it comes to Germany."
In a social media post addressed to his "American friends", Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said that "Europe is your closest ally, not your problem" and noted their "common enemies".
"This is the only reasonable strategy of our common security. Unless something has changed."
Meanwhile, former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt wrote that the document "places itself to the right of the extreme right".
The US has been growing closer to the far-right AfD party in Germany, which has been classified as extreme right by German intelligence.
Promoting an "America First" message, the strategy says the US intends to target alleged drug-trafficking boats in the Caribbean Sea and the eastern Pacific Ocean, considering possible military action in Venezuela.
The US also calls on an increased defence spending from Japan, South Korea, Australia and Taiwan.
Democrats in Congress warned that the document could shatter US foreign relations.
Representative Jason Crow of Colorado, who sits on House committees overseeing intelligence and the armed forces, called the strategy "catastrophic to America's standing in the world".
New York Representative Gregory Meeks said it "discards decades of value-based, US leadership".
 

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They've played the long game and funded the right people. People need to wise up, but a lot of people have bought into the idea that Russia is more free than Europe.

In reality, they like that Russia doesn't really think much of non-whites and the LGBT+ community.

They want Europe to be like that.
 

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They've played the long game and funded the right people. People need to wise up, but a lot of people have bought into the idea that Russia is more free than Europe.

In reality, they like that Russia doesn't really think much of non-whites and the LGBT+ community.

They want Europe to be like that.

I think this is exactly right. It’s a perfect storm of all of these things at the moment and who’d have thought ex KGB officer Putin would be able to manipulate the wider sphere of useful idiots into manufacturing their own self destruction?

Answer - quite a few of us. But it’s difficult to know what to do about it.
 

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So nice to see uncle don get his peace award. What happened to keep politics out of football?
One comedian described is as Trump's gnarly hands grasping at a ravaged Earth, and dragging it to hell. I do hope that actually describes what the artist who made it was aiming for.

They've played the long game and funded the right people. People need to wise up, but a lot of people have bought into the idea that Russia is more free than Europe.

In reality, they like that Russia doesn't really think much of non-whites and the LGBT+ community.

They want Europe to be like that.
The worst bit is that the same people who up until recently were frightened half to death of Communism to the point that they saw free at the point of service healthcare as "commie", are now the same ones lauding over Russia. This is political polarisation at it's upmost worst. When people blindly believe absolutely everything their "side" says without any question, is when democracy dies. Its actually quite frightening to watch, the world is literally barrelling towards the dystopian nightmare Orwell tried so hard to warn us all about.
 

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Until we know the full extent of just how much our politics and news media have been influenced by money that has links to the Russian State, and a very rich community that who's wealth means their reach transcends countries, then our security is at risk, The problem is that people in power, have in effect stolen their countries resources, and using it for their own ends, it's not so much that Putin is Russian, it's that he, and his fellow criminals, stole the Russian state, and that's what Trump is attempting in the US, It's about personal greed, more than anything,

Farrage, tice, and very rich billionaire influencers and often donors to right wing parties are all part of this same group, they are not in it for political reasons, but as a way to ensure their own status and power base does not come under threat, if we are busy fighting each other, blaming each other, we are not watching them steal what does not belong to them,
 

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, tice, and very rich billionaire influencers and often donors to right wing parties are all part of this same group, they are not in it for political reasons, but as a way to ensure their own status and power base does not come under threat, if we are busy fighting each other, blaming each other, we are not watching them steal what does not belong to them,
Precisely. ‘Look over there - some people in little rubber boats.’
 

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I'm almost certain the only reason Trump is concerned about this deal is that his best mate Larry Ellison didn't succeed, rather than any genuine concern about the company's size:


US President Donald Trump has flagged potential concerns over Netflix's planned $72bn (£54bn) deal to buy Warner Brothers Discovery's movie studio and popular HBO streaming networks.
At an event in Washington DC on Sunday, he said Netflix has a "big market share" and the firms' combined size "could be a problem".
On Friday, the two companies said they had reached an agreement to bring Warner Brothers' franchises like Harry Potter and Game of Thrones to Netflix, creating a new media giant.
The planned deal, which has raised concerns among some in the industry, is yet to be approved by competition authorities. The BBC has contacted Warner Bros, Netflix and the White House for comment.
Launched in 1997 as a postal DVD rental business, Netflix has grown to become the world's largest subscription streaming service. The deal, the biggest the film industry has seen in a long time, would cement its number one position.
Under the agreement several global entertainment franchises, such as Looney Tunes, The Matrix and Lord of the Rings, would move to Netflix.
The deal is expected to be completed after Warner Bros splits its business in the second half of 2026.
The US Justice Department's competition division, which oversees major mergers, could contend that the deal violates the law if the combined businesses account for too much of the streaming market.
At an event at the John F Kennedy Center in the US capital, Trump said that Netflix has a "very big market share" which would "go up by a lot" if the deal goes ahead.
Trump added he would be personally involved in the decision on whether or not to approve the deal and repeatedly highlighted the size of Netflix's market share.
He also said that Netflix's co-CEO Ted Sarandos recently visited the Oval Office and praised him for his work at the company.
"I have a lot of respect for him. He's a great person," said Trump. "He's done one of the greatest jobs in the history of movies."
Mr Sarandos earlier acknowledged that the agreement may have surprised investors but said it was a chance to position Netflix for success in the "decades to come".
 

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One comedian described is as Trump's gnarly hands grasping at a ravaged Earth, and dragging it to hell. I do hope that actually describes what the artist who made it was aiming for.


The worst bit is that the same people who up until recently were frightened half to death of Communism to the point that they saw free at the point of service healthcare as "commie", are now the same ones lauding over Russia. This is political polarisation at it's upmost worst. When people blindly believe absolutely everything their "side" says without any question, is when democracy dies. Its actually quite frightening to watch, the world is literally barrelling towards the dystopian nightmare Orwell tried so hard to warn us all about.

It's totally ridiculous. They don't know the meaning of half the words they repeat/share (just look at how everyone became an expert in the word 'sovereignty' during Brexit). They don't know the difference between communism and socialism, nor that Russia and China aren't exactly communist these days in the true sense of the word - especially China.

And, indeed, Trump likes to praise China and attack China depending on what suits him. He wants the base to think China is evil, but also knows that China wants to trade with the USA and so he plays the games he does. Sadly, in some cases China just say 'Yeah, nah, **** off' and don't play along.

Russia wants sanctions lifted, but more importantly, bank accounts unfrozen. There are a lot of people who have a LOT of money who are willing to share some of that money with those that can help them and it seems the USA is full of useful idiots to facilitate it.

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Farrage, tice, and very rich billionaire influencers and often donors to right wing parties are all part of this same group, they are not in it for political reasons, but as a way to ensure their own status and power base does not come under threat, if we are busy fighting each other, blaming each other, we are not watching them steal what does not belong to them,

Absolutely, and as I've said before, they could never expect to win enough votes to get into power by saying what and who they represent. People would go 'hang on, how does that help me?' and there are more people like me than them.

So they trick me into thinking they're just like me and care about the issues that I do, while doing everything the exact opposite in plain site. They can do this because they know that Trump has proved they'll get votes from those who have been convinced to blame immigrants and want to see them deported or locked up in another country with no expectation of release. The Tories have thought in the last week or two 'hey, that sounds good' and suggested mass deportations too - even quoting target figures - because they think it will swing far-right votes back to them.

Even Labour is talking tougher and seeking to release data on how many people are deported to try and satisfy these lunatics.
 
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Until we know the full extent of just how much our politics and news media have been influenced by money that has links to the Russian State, and a very rich community that who's wealth means their reach transcends countries, then our security is at risk, The problem is that people in power, have in effect stolen their countries resources, and using it for their own ends, it's not so much that Putin is Russian, it's that he, and his fellow criminals, stole the Russian state, and that's what Trump is attempting in the US, It's about personal greed, more than anything,

Farrage, tice, and very rich billionaire influencers and often donors to right wing parties are all part of this same group, they are not in it for political reasons, but as a way to ensure their own status and power base does not come under threat, if we are busy fighting each other, blaming each other, we are not watching them steal what does not belong to them,
Precisely, have been saying this and have held this view for years as it's so blindingly obvious. It's one of the oldest, yet infuriatingly effective tactics in the political playbook: demonize and scapegoat minorities (non-whites, the LGBTQ community to name two of the most frequently targeted groups) as the cause of every single problem their country as they steal from and otherwise hollow out their countries right under their populace's noses to enrich themselves further and ensure their power base isn't threatened, in the process making said problems 10 times worse. These people couldn't give a rat's a*rse about the common man, plain and simple.

All this goes on while the most easily misled and bamboolzed of us knock back their BS like I knock back tea, creating societal divisions and distractions & often as not causing the establishment political parties to try and appeal to these voters as @jon0844 notes, who would never even consider voting for them to begin with, driving the rank-and-file voters away in the process and thereby increasing their own chances of seizing power come the next general election by presenting themselves as the 'return to normalcy/bringing back the glory days/taking our country back/the common man's party etc' alternative.

Not to repeat myself, but it's all so transparently insidious and self-serving, not to mention blindingly obvious. Regardless, thanks to the combination of a complete lack of critical thinking skills and woefully short attention spans in a not-insignificant chunk of our populace, it works time and time again & leaves the rest of us to just bang our heads against the nearest wall.
 
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I doubt anything will come of this, but this news won't come as a surprise to any outsider:


Fifa's ethics committee has been asked to investigate president Gianni Infantino, claiming he broke the governing body's rules on political neutrality in relation to United States president Donald Trump.

Infantino awarded Trump with the inaugural Fifa peace prize at the 2026 World Cup draw in Washington DC last week, and has also done social media posts and interviews in support of the 79-year-old.

Human rights campaign group FairSquare has written a letter of complaint, which BBC Sport has seen, alleging Infantino has "committed four clear breaches" of Fifa's neutrality rules.

"The award of a prize of this nature to a sitting political leader is in, and of itself, a clear breach of Fifa's duty of neutrality," the letter stated.

"The Fifa president does not have the authority to unilaterally dictate the organisation's mission, strategic direction, policies and values."

BBC Sport has contacted football's world governing body for comment.

Infantino and Trump stood side by side during the glittering ceremony at the Kennedy Center for next year's tournament, which takes place in the US, Canada and Mexico from 11 June-19 July.

As well as a large golden trophy, Trump received a medal and certificate from Infantino, who said "this is what we want from a leader" and "you can always count, Mr President, on my support" during a speech that followed a video before the presentation.

In October, the 55-year-old posted on Instagram saying Trump "definitely deserves" the Nobel Peace Prize.

During an interview in November at the American Business Forum in Miami, Infantino also added: "We should all support what [Trump] is doing [in the US] because I think it's looking pretty good."

FairSquare also alleged a video post by Infantino on Instagram in January - following his invite to Trump's inauguration - "indicates support for President Trump's political agenda".

Nicholas McGeehan, FairSquare's programme director, added: "This complaint is about a lot more than Infantino's support for President Donald Trump's political agenda.

"More broadly this is about how Fifa's absurd governance structure has allowed Gianni Infantino to openly flout the organisation's rules and act in ways that are both dangerous and directly contrary to the interests of the world's most popular sport."
 

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