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Loganair. They’re cheaper if you book directly with Loganair. Unless you desperately need the BA tier points you may as well book with Loganair, as they fly from T2 or City there’s no OneWorld lounge at either. You get Avios with Loganair now.

Actually Loganair are a good way of getting good value from Avios now. A single redemption flight is 6,500 Avios + airport fees + tax, regardless of how much the fare would be. 13,000 Avios saved me about £250 on a recent return to London.

Unfortunately the same can't be said of their fares - for leisure travellers.

They don't last long when Easyjet arrive aka GLA-SOU.

Anything under £50 for a leg is rare as hens teeth, plus they pulled out of BHX to INV this year. Not sure why as there's no competition or seemingly market ?

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I'm on exclusively Edinburgh-Exeter flights, where the fare element is almost never under £100, but good point.

I'm realising with some of my Norwegian flights that actual cheap economy flights are a hopeless way of accumulating points, albeit that they redeem the points as a pretty transparent cash discount.

Come back Flybe - all is forgiven - Exeter was their HQ - what is the building now ?
 
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Come back Flybe - all is forgiven - Exeter was their HQ - what is the building now ?
Largely abandoned last I looked, with some of the planes randomly parked near the runway. We're getting rather off the topic of Easyjet though I guess
 

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Unfortunately the same can't be said of their fares - for leisure travellers.

They don't last long when Easyjet arrive aka GLA-SOU.
No, they know better than to get into a competitive price war with EasyJet. EasyJet have the might to blow anyone out of the water if they try.

I will say one thing though: easyJet are not actually that cheap, especially if you take any sort of luggage. Our two main airlines are Loganair and EasyJet. EasyJet are often less than £10 cheaper than Loganair if you add a hold bag or large cabin bag. And I much prefer the friendly customer service of Loganair to the militant bag checks of EasyJet.

It can be a bit more of a difference on the IOM to London route, but not as much as you’d think. EasyJet are often £120+ each way on the Gatwick route just for the basic seat. And then you have to factor into City being much more convenient than Gatwick when choosing who to fly with. It’s not much use saving £25 flying to Gatwick when the Gatwick Express costs £20.

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Come back Flybe - all is forgiven - Exeter was their HQ - what is the building now ?
God no, I don’t miss FlyMaybe one little bit. FlyMaybe gave you the excellent travel experience of a low cost airline but without their fares actually being remotely low cost. £40 to take a suitcase wasn’t uncommon from the IOM. Fine when you have an easyJet £15 fare, but not so much when Flybe were charging £50+ for the fare.
 

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No, they know better than to get into a competitive price war with EasyJet. EasyJet have the might to blow anyone out of the water if they try.

I will say one thing though: easyJet are not actually that cheap, especially if you take any sort of luggage. Our two main airlines are Loganair and EasyJet. EasyJet are often less than £10 cheaper than Loganair if you add a hold bag or large cabin bag. And I much prefer the friendly customer service of Loganair to the militant bag checks of EasyJet.

It can be a bit more of a difference on the IOM to London route, but not as much as you’d think. EasyJet are often £120+ each way on the Gatwick route just for the basic seat. And then you have to factor into City being much more convenient than Gatwick when choosing who to fly with. It’s not much use saving £25 flying to Gatwick when the Gatwick Express costs £20.

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God no, I don’t miss FlyMaybe one little bit. FlyMaybe gave you the excellent travel experience of a low cost airline but without their fares actually being remotely low cost. £40 to take a suitcase wasn’t uncommon from the IOM. Fine when you have an easyJet £15 fare, but not so much when Flybe were charging £50+ for the fare.

Am I mistaken in thinking that the one time I visited it was on BMI Baby ?
 

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Easyjet do have the edge on one thing. If they promise you a refund they actually give you it. I'm having the most tremendous trouble getting a refund out of loganair at the moment.
 

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Am I mistaken in thinking that the one time I visited it was on BMI Baby ?
You’re probably thinking of BA CitiExpress or maybe Manx Airlines. I don’t remember IOM being on the BMI Baby network, but it’s before my time tbh.

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Easyjet do have the edge on one thing. If they promise you a refund they actually give you it. I'm having the most tremendous trouble getting a refund out of loganair at the moment.
EasyJet are generally very good at reimbursement of duty of care costs, I’ve had them back in my account within a week before. They’re not quite so good at UK261 compensation though, everything is always extraordinary circumstances with them. I saw on Flyertalk that they were even arguing that their two aircraft colliding at Manchester the other month was extraordinary circumstances outside of their control!

I’ve had less experience of compensation claims with Loganair as they’re rarely more than three hours late for a reason within their control. They paid up promptly last year when I put a UK261 claim in. Their flight had a tech issue and was an hour late into Heathrow, which meant I missed my connection and was five hours late into Hamburg. I’d booked it on a BA ticket but Loganair paid up without quibble. Loganair are also very good when bad weather is forecast, letting you change your flights in advance without them charging either a fee or the difference in fares. Had to use that a few times living here.
 
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EasyJet are generally very good at reimbursement of duty of care costs, I’ve had them back in my account within a week before. They’re not quite so good at UK261 compensation though, everything is always extraordinary circumstances with them. I saw on Flyertalk that they were even arguing that their two aircraft colliding at Manchester the other month was extraordinary circumstances outside of their control!

I’ve had less experience of compensation claims with Loganair as they’re rarely more than three hours late for a reason within their control. They paid up promptly last year when I put a UK261 claim in. Their flight had a tech issue and was an hour late into Heathrow, which meant I missed my connection and was five hours late into Hamburg. I’d booked it on a BA ticket but Loganair paid up without quibble. Loganair are also very good when bad weather is forecast, letting you change your flights in advance without them charging either a fee or the difference in fares. Had to use that a few times living here.
The one time I've had to claim from Easyjet they were absolutely painless - held their hands up immediately, quickly organised coaches and accommodation, and both check-in staff and staff on the replacement flight made sure everybody knew to claim the compensation, which was quickly paid.
 

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The one time I've had to claim from Easyjet they were absolutely painless
For reimbursement, yes. For compensation, my experience is less so. They have an unfortunate tendency to blame everything on weather here. Whilst the initial cause of the delay often is weather, what tends to happen is that easyJet will schedule the flight to operate when it is operationally convenient for them to do so, rather than as soon as the wind drops/fog clears/etc.

I’ve had a five hour delay at Manchester waiting to return to IOM before due to high winds where, for three of those hours, the wind had decreased and Loganair were operating to the island without delay. EasyJet rejected the claim even though the bulk of the delay was clearly an operational decision.
 

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For reimbursement, yes. For compensation, my experience is less so. They have an unfortunate tendency to blame everything on weather here. Whilst the initial cause of the delay often is weather, what tends to happen is that easyJet will schedule the flight to operate when it is operationally convenient for them to do so, rather than as soon as the wind drops/fog clears/etc.

I’ve had a five hour delay at Manchester waiting to return to IOM before due to high winds where, for three of those hours, the wind had decreased and Loganair were operating to the island without delay. EasyJet rejected the claim even though the bulk of the delay was clearly an operational decision.
This was compensation. There was nothing to reimburse since they'd organised the hotel with meals and transfer for us.

Airlines generally are rather too good at blaming any nearby weather or strike for everything that happens that day, but in this case they just had a standard hour of lost time late in the day and a crew member who was out of hours.
 

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I was on an easyJet flight from BHX-EDI which didn't get into Edinburgh until nearly midnight -about 90 mins late.

With the last train gone I had to get a Taxi back to Falkirk which was over £60.

Much to my surprise they coughed up within a week.
 

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Boarded a flight from BER to LLA this morning and cabin crew were telling everyone to turn off all electrical devices until airborne. That is a first for me and it didn't happen going over last week.
 

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Boarded a flight from BER to LLA this morning and cabin crew were telling everyone to turn off all electrical devices until airborne.
Standard practice for a CAT III auto-landing. I assume that the same systems apply in low visibility take-offs too, but I don't know. Was it foggy this morning?
 

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Standard practice for a CAT III auto-landing. I assume that the same systems apply in low visibility take-offs too, but I don't know. Was it foggy this morning?
It was very foggy at BER so i think you are spot on. It would have helped if this had been explained to passengers.
 

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Has LLA outside but of course it is LTN.
I've only just discovered that BER is Berlin. i don't think I could even have guessed at Luton for the other end. People using TLAs for no reason is apparently just as annoying for air travel discussions as it is for trains
 

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Where it all started thirty years ago !!
Yes started 10th November 1995

Followed a period of collapses, International Leisure Group (Intersun, others with Air Europe) in March 1991, Dan Air in 1992

Now second biggest airline in Europe (by seat count x flights), but not if measuring by seat miles.

For record Oct-Mar 2026 is
Ryanair 98.3m
Easyjet 47.5m
Turkish 40.2m
Wizz Air 40.4m
Lufthansa 32.0m
British Airways 29.0m
 

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I've had a couple of interesting developments for an Easyjet booking in January. I booked Manchester-Milan Malpensa return. On one leg the airport has been changed to Milan Linate and the other the operator has switched to ITA. I'm not bothered by these changes as I find them quite interesting- Linate is my last required airport with Milan in the name, and I've never flown ITA before so that should be good too.
 

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Thanks for reopening Matt.

Exciting set of route expansion coming up for the Winter - 60 new routes across Europe, representing solid growth going forward by the looks of it and a really good mix of destinations. Birmingham's growth carries on, with Reykjavik, Innsbruck, Krakow, Prague and Marrakesh joining the network there. Interesting to see Norway come into the scene, with Tromso for Gatwick, Bristol and Manchester (some of the European bases are linked up too), as well as Oslo for Paris and Milan Malpensa. Looks like some more flights to and from Newcastle, with Paris and Lyon added, so wonder if maybe after Southend we might see a reinstatement of a base there one day....good to see some further additions such as Akeyuri for Manchester, Istanbul for Bristol, Malta for Liverpool, and Strasbourg for Gatwick. Quite the list!

On the takeover rumours front, I have not seen anything recently (i.e. this year - have I missed something?) - last things of real note were the WizzAir supposed approach and murmurings of IAG interest rumours in 2022. I saw this article last year, where there was an emphatic no to any disappearance of the airline in response to comments by O'Leary.


Would echo comments above that seem that standing well on own two feet and recovered strongly all things considering given the impacts of the pandemic. Got a lot of upgauging and uptapped capacity too given the future withdrawals of A319s for A320/A321Neos. I would also echo Air France - KLM group being a good fit and fill a gap in their portfolio if anything were to change one day, particularly given that group are transitioning the main short haul fleets of KLM and Transavia to Airbus.

Some intriguing developments in recent days - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-keeps-door-ajar-on-easyjet-role-as-bid-looms - my comments last year aged well!

Castlelake, who are an American investment and asset management firm, confirmed publicly last week it was considering a bid for the UK airline easyJet. It should be said easyJet are viewing the bid as highly opportunistic given the particularly depressed share value due to the current conflict.

Over the course of last week it became clear Castlelake were door knocking for a partner (due to UK / EU ownership rules) for any potential bid, and whilst MSC (an Italian cruise operator and holiday business, who also have a 50% stake in the Italian high speed rail operator Italo) has been mentioned, Air France KLM (“AFKL”) may be another option.

It’s interesting if it is AFKL given Castlelake worked with them on the restructure of SAS, which AFKL are in the proceedings of procuring a majority ownership stake in.

As I go back to my comments of last year, a lot of synergies to be had by such an acquisition and whilst not without risks, particularly given the fact easyJet is solid financially currently and, from my experiences, an excellent airline to fly with, it could be interesting times ahead if AFKL did confirm interest.
 

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with, it could be interesting times ahead if AFKL did confirm interest
I seriously wish AFKL (despite how much I like their LH offerings) don’t touch EasyJet even as an investor.

Transavia, their low cost operation, has in my experience (though I understand it may not be true for NL origin/destination flights), extremely high fares and especially high fees for addons, easyjet does have the latter but the former isn’t really true for them.

Fares so high, that it is sometimes easily undercut by a connection in CDG/AMS on the mainline brand, which though inconvenient is a sign when legacies are cheaper.
 

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Thanks for reopening Matt.



Some intriguing developments in recent days - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-keeps-door-ajar-on-easyjet-role-as-bid-looms - my comments last year aged well!

Castlelake, who are an American investment and asset management firm, confirmed publicly last week it was considering a bid for the UK airline easyJet. It should be said easyJet are viewing the bid as highly opportunistic given the particularly depressed share value due to the current conflict.

Over the course of last week it became clear Castlelake were door knocking for a partner (due to UK / EU ownership rules) for any potential bid, and whilst MSC (an Italian cruise operator and holiday business, who also have a 50% stake in the Italian high speed rail operator Italo) has been mentioned, Air France KLM (“AFKL”) may be another option.

It’s interesting if it is AFKL given Castlelake worked with them on the restructure of SAS, which AFKL are in the proceedings of procuring a majority ownership stake in.

As I go back to my comments of last year, a lot of synergies to be had by such an acquisition and whilst not without risks, particularly given the fact easyJet is solid financially currently and, from my experiences, an excellent airline to fly with, it could be interesting times ahead if AFKL did confirm interest.
I suppose if Easyjet is taken on by the cold dead hands of US private equity and Europe's worst legacy carrier, then it provides an interesting growth opportunity for Ryanair, as well as the various regional budget carriers.
 

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Only a couple of months ago Michael O'Leary was predicting doom and gloom for Wizz and stated that there was a good chance that easyjet would be broken up. I must admit this statement concerned me, he either knew something, was waffling as he often does or was living in hope. I'd hate anything to happen in any way to this airline because in my experience it is by far and away the best low cost carrier around.
 

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I suppose if Easyjet is taken on by the cold dead hands of US private equity and Europe's worst legacy carrier, then it provides an interesting growth opportunity for Ryanair, as well as the various regional budget carriers.
The Middle East conflict is hollowing out the airlines' share prices and if you have the money it's a good time to try and force a takeover.

But absolutely nothing has ever been improved by the involvement of US private equity. Combining that expertise with AF/KLM's infamous service standards sounds like the fast road to bankruptcy to me.

I'd hate anything to happen in any way to this airline because in my experience it is by far and away the best low cost carrier around.
EasyJet are many things- some good, some bad- but one thing they are not is low cost.

Their customer service levels, especially in disruption, are some of the best in the industry. But that costs money and they're competing in the part of the sector where the headline price is all that anybody ever reads. I'd rather walk barefoot than ever fly WizzAir again, but they're cheaper than EasyJet, and that's what EasyJet have chosen to compete on.
 

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EasyJet are many things- some good, some bad- but one thing they are not is low cost.

They operate the low cost carrier model (yield managed, single fares only, luggage paid separately etc) but I'd agree are not bargain basement and also I'd agree they generally treat customers better than any of the true bargain basement carriers.

In US terms they are perhaps analogous to JetBlue.

With regard to what they compete on, they mostly avoid going head to head with Ryanair or Wizz for the reasons you state. They mostly compete with full service carriers.
 

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