Buses need layover space at termini, to ensure punctuality on the next trip. Moving it elsewhere is always a wish of developers, who see it as quite acceptable to store cars on expensive city centre land.
It's not a depot. The only record of it being on an Operator Licence is that for the now surrendered one for Strathclyde Partnership for Transport.
I assumed the small section of stances were the 'prime' ones for Citylink/Ember/Flixbus but then what arguments start when (say) McGills/Clydeflyer get kicked further away from the building to the other stances - they currently have prime stances because they are ex-Citylink routes - and then all the Stagecoach long distance services get further away from the prime location too?
I think the banksmen are only there for now because of buses reversing in all directions and buses in some cases needing to turn while reversing. There are no bankspeople at Hamilton or Govan for example which also work off drive in, reverse off. And there are also rather large bus stations such as Preston and Warrington which are drive in, reverse off, without bankspeople because all of the stands are in one line (I imagine if there was another bus station which required buses to kind of reverse into eachother, bankspeople would be present).
Hamilton definitely has bankspeople. Not so sure about Govan.
Interesting. I didn't see them when I was up that way. Is it a new thing?
I'm not sure if a two-level bus station would be a good idea. Unless there is some sort of plan to bring daylight into the lower level, you'll just end up with a dark and unpleasant space underneath. Do we really want to have another Anderston?
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The area needs it. Some of the stances are are the far end of nowhere and theres so many stances that aren't used due to suitability or lack of services, and others thare have become coach parking for coach tours. Neither of which are good uses of land.
You certainly need more coach bays and less service bays, but the issue is that the proposals don't give scope for PSVAR coaches which need space for the wheelchair lifts. The plans in the consultation felt very much as if someone saw the brief for it to be a BUS station and failed to accomodate the fact that the station is used by so many coaches.
Problem with coach parking is that it's an issue of SPTs own making as the closed Anderson and have failed to provide alternative coach parking within the city center
Is it an SPT issue though? I'm not sure it falls under their remit to provide coach parking, that feels very much like a local authority issue. And if the local authority doesn't create coach parking, then the free market should probably try and accomodate coaches in the daytime by using spare space in the bus depots. I know that Doigs used to do this but their website now says that parking is suspended.
Spt are responsible for bus and coach provisions in Glasgow
There's a number of on street terminus Holland street , Douglas street , Wellington street , west regent street , Oswald street , cowcaddens, George sq and a few others I am forgetting about
SPT will be responsible for local bus and registered coach provisions. And reasonably unregistered but scheduled intercity coaches would be signposted SPTs way for suitable stopping arrangements or wanting to get access to the bus stations for departures. But I don't believe that SPT has any obligation to provide coach parking for tourist coaches, which is indeed what is happening currently on some the stances at Buchanan Street (and the point that I was making). In the same way that TFL doesn't do anything in the way of coach parking, it's all done as a side hustle by existing transport operators, a commercial initiative by car park owners or by local authorities in the own car parks or setting up roadside bays.
SPT will get considerable additional income by allowing coach operators to make use of the stances that aren’t required by the local bus services using the bus station, so a sensible commercial decision.
I don’t think SPT owned Anderston Bus Station at the time it closed but it was a hellhole of a place and it’s not missed one bit.
Also Cochrane St, George St (as well as George Sq), Holm St, Cathedral St bridge and Renfrew St. Some have been in use for 50 years or more. Some are currently not used because of temporary diversions after the Central Station fire or George Sq reconstruction. Where is the on street terminus at Cowcaddens?
There aren’t many ‘local’ bus routes that use the bus station as their city terminal. The vast majority of routes terminating there are what could be described as the former Scottish Bus Group routes that run to/from places outwith the traditional city boundary. The routes that would have been run by Glasgow Corporation/Strathclyde PTE/Buses still largely run cross-city or terminate elsewhere around the city centre using some of the stands mentioned.
