Class 376 refurbishment 2025/2026

[Class 466]

There are a lot of red platform numbers at Victoria on the SE side around that time though, including with this service and subsequent Gravesend services, suggesting a temporary situation. What's also notable are most of the Gravesend services are leaving Victoria 3 minutes earlier than usual (xx:00 and xx:30), and hang around at Victoria for over 30 minutes, rather than 9 minutes.

I was looking at the base plan on a normal day rather than today.

 

[brad465]

I was looking at the base plan on a normal day rather than today.

I see, what is the stock that was on this diagram doing instead?

 

[Class 466]

I see, what is the stock that was on this diagram doing instead?

0954 arrival forms 1003 departure back to Gravesend in Platform 7, 5Y95 (5 car 376) forms 2U22 in Platform 6, 1024 arrival forms 1103 departure in Platform 7

 

[Chiltern006]

Think thats a 375/377 mate, there is a toilet vestibule just behind them. Also don't think that 376s have side passenger information displays.

You are right, hadn’t noticed them! Good old Steve White said it was the first 376 being done

 

[NSEWonderer]

You are right, hadn’t noticed them! Good old Steve White said it was the first 376 being done

Haha unless Mr White has secretly paid for toilets in the refurb.

 

[brad465]

Think thats a 375/377 mate, there is a toilet vestibule just behind them. Also don't think that 376s have side passenger information displays.

Haha unless Mr White has secretly paid for toilets in the refurb.

Could it actually be the first 707 toilet fitting (or a practice run if that's even a thing)? They are due to get toilets and have side passenger information displays. I'm also not aware of any 375 refurb, although the 377s could do with an interior one.

 

[NSEWonderer]

Could it actually be the first 707 toilet fitting (or a practice run if that's even a thing)? They are due to get toilets and have side passenger information displays. I'm also not aware of any 375 refurb, although the 377s could do with an interior one.

Linkedin mentions its a partnership with SE and Alstom so makes me believe its an Electrostar.

 

[Class 466]

Could it actually be the first 707 toilet fitting (or a practice run if that's even a thing)? They are due to get toilets and have side passenger information displays. I'm also not aware of any 375 refurb, although the 377s could do with an interior one.

It’s pretty clear (to me at least) that is a 375 in that video.

Anyway 376014 is the chosen one to spend today on Victoria to Gravesend runs.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Could it actually be the first 707 toilet fitting (or a practice run if that's even a thing)? They are due to get toilets and have side passenger information displays. I'm also not aware of any 375 refurb, although the 377s could do with an interior one.

707s already have side passenger information displays. Do you mean internal ones?

 

[NSEWonderer]

707s already have side passenger information displays. Do you mean internal ones?

He was saying that as reference to why it could have been a 707 in the picture, in addition to the belief It had just got a toilet compartment added.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

He was saying that as reference to why it could have been a 707 in the picture, in addition to the belief It had just got a toilet compartment added.

Got it, thanks.

They are due to get toilets and they have side passenger information displays.

Whether or not this word is included changes the meaning

 

[GEC465]

A 376 is being refreshed it most likely being 027. I personally have not heard anything about the 707 toilet fitment but I assume it should be happening shortly

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This pages table
376 list correct as of 4/11/2025
Connex livery/Vinyl applicator
376003
376011
376032
376034

Currently being done*
376013


SE Trains livery with original interior
376001
376002
376004
376005
376006
376007
376008
376009
376010
376012
376014
376015
376016
376017
376018
376019
376020
376021
376022
376023
376024
376025
376026
376028
376029
376030
376031
376033
376035
376036


SE Trains livery with refreshed interior
376027(?)

*Based if it's not appeared for a few days

 

[snd2402]

Don't think it's a 707, wrong shape windows and also they don't have the blue side panels. Like others, think a 375. They have the blue side panels with sockets & usb ports - single for 2 seats and doubles for 4 seat bays as per the photo.

 

[brad465]

A 376 is being refreshed it most likely being 027. I personally have not heard anything about the 707 toilet fitment but I assume it should be happening shortly

IIRC 376027 was also the first unit with the blue vinyl applied. 707s have been confirmed to be getting toilets, but I suspect it's still a long way off - Steve White said somewhere it takes a while to design and get contractors sorted for this work, and I suspect SE won't want any of these being refurbished at the same time as 376s.

 

[NSEWonderer]

Had no clue that 376s go to Blackfrairs in passenger service from Lewisham. Surprised to see the 09:14 leaving Platform 1 for there, via Denmark Hill.

 

[GEC465]

IIRC 376027 was also the first unit with the blue vinyl applied. 707s have been confirmed to be getting toilets, but I suspect it's still a long way off

027 indeed was the first to get the wraps and the LED interior modifications. Won't suprise me if it's used to test the interior refurb.
I assume with the 707s the toilets should nearly be there since the job listing disappeared quite a while ago for contractors and the design is most likely nearly there.

 

[wls1]

002 in blue

Realtime Trains | 5A19 0935 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Slade Green T&R.S.M.D | 17/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 5A19 0935 departure from Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Slade Green T&R.S.M.D on 17/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[DesDobramento]

Has there been a convincing explanation yet as to why there seems to have been a wholesale campaign to remove the external Southeastern logos from unrepainted Class 376?

 

[Doomotron]

Presumably just to save time when they go to get reliveried.

 

[CR165022]

Wasn't it that they were preparing the bodysides in preparation for the vinyls? I seem to remember they looked cleaner/whiter on the panels where the logos also were.

 

[GEC465]

Wasn't it that they were preparing the bodysides in preparation for the vinyls? .

Essentially this. Even some of the carriage numbers and name decals on 001 were removed for this

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Currently observed only 5 white 376s out with 376003/007 not out today. Maybe one of the 2 is having the livery applied

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Seems if RTT is correct and 007 is leading it's now in blue

 

[lumitumey12345]

How many white ones are left?

 

[GEC465]

How many white ones are left?

Probably at most 3 or 4 out

 

[Cach17]

More than twenty years of yellow doors on SE about to come to an end. Soon only the Networkers will be in white.

 

[Ridgeblog]

More than twenty years of yellow doors on SE about to come to an end. Soon only the Networkers will be in white.

Yeah, haha finally it's happened! Though funny you say that, as it's been almost 20 years (I think?) of the blue door livery that the networkers has, since it was introduced in 2008 on a few 375s. Crazy that the branding of a long absolete toc has lasted this long. Off topic though, I do wonder how soon the scene will change once the speculated new trains come about or if gbr will happen?

 

[GEC465]

024 in blue

 

[brad465]

Yeah, haha finally it's happened! Though funny you say that, as it's been almost 20 years (I think?) of the blue door livery that the networkers has, since it was introduced in 2008 on a few 375s. Crazy that the branding of a long absolete toc has lasted this long. Off topic though, I do wonder how soon the scene will change once the speculated new trains come about or if gbr will happen?

What's interesting is Southeastern was nationalised in 2021, yet the 376 refurbishment is using exactly the same livery applied to the 375s when Govia was running it, rather than coming up with a new livery style or logo.

 

[Phil R]

Probably at most 3 or 4 out

Yes, four. 32nd unit going blue this week.

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What's interesting is Southeastern was nationalised in 2021, yet the 376 refurbishment is using exactly the same livery applied to the 375s when Govia was running it, rather than coming up with a new livery style or logo.

If it ain't broke..... with 112 x 375s, 23 x 377/5 and more recently 30 x 707s in blue it would arguably be a bit crazy to do something completely different. The Southeastern brand transferred in 2021 anyway so there wasn't really anything to change.

 

[brad465]

If it ain't broke..... with 112 x 375s, 23 x 377/5 and more recently 30 x 707s in blue it would arguably be a bit crazy to do something completely different. The Southeastern brand transferred in 2021 anyway so there wasn't really anything to change.

True, I wouldn't be surprised though if the new fleet ordered (if that even happens at this rate) is in a different style livery, just because branding styles lose effect over time.

 

[Doomotron]

The new 395 is noticeably different to the SE dark blue livery being applied to the 707s, 376s and 377s, although it is still dark blue so it isn't exactly a new brand image.