AWC Derailment: could a DMU have been used to rescue the passengers?

[Bletchleyite]

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AWC Derailment at Shap Summit 03/11/25

Reports coming in of a derailed train near Shap Summit up Goods loop. Looking like 1R22 0428 from GLC to EUS https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/penrith-20251103/ A derailed train between Penrith and Oxenholme means all lines are blocked. Trains running between Carlisle and...

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Kind of surprised they walk people to evacuate in those circumstances rather than bringing a DMU alongside or behind. It must be quite awkward walking on the ballast if you aren't wearing suitable shoes or are infirm.

 

[Louby]

Kind of surprised they walk people to evacuate in those circumstances rather than bringing a DMU alongside or behind. It must be quite awkward walking on the ballast if you aren't wearing suitable shoes or

Kind of surprised they walk people to evacuate in those circumstances rather than bringing a DMU alongside or behind. It must be quite awkward walking on the ballast if you aren't wearing suitable shoes or are infirm.

How ? Both lines are blocked ? And ground unstable

 

[Bantamzen]

Kind of surprised they walk people to evacuate in those circumstances rather than bringing a DMU alongside or behind. It must be quite awkward walking on the ballast if you aren't wearing suitable shoes or are infirm.

Might be easier than trying to walk through the surrounding moorland, I imagine that'll be pretty slushy at the moment. Plus it gets them towards some access closer to the hotel they are presumably heading for.

 

[Bletchleyite]

How ? Both lines are blocked ?

By driving it there. There are rules allowing train movements in possessions, how on earth do you think they get them there when doing work?

And ground unstable

The entire length of the route between Oxenholme and Penrith? I doubt that.

 

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Kind of surprised they walk people to evacuate in those circumstances rather than bringing a DMU alongside or behind. It must be quite awkward walking on the ballast if you aren't wearing suitable shoes or are infirm.

There are 4 access points closeby and I would think they were heading to one of these. Screenshots attached.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Landslip behind the train and the front of the train fouling the Down line. How does one run another train alongside?

In front then

Might be easier than trying to walk through the surrounding moorland, I imagine that'll be pretty slushy at the moment. Plus it gets them towards some access closer to the hotel they are presumably heading for.

True. If the hotel is very nearby it might be the best option. Just looked like rather a long walk!

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There are 4 access points closeby and I would think they were heading to one of these. Screenshots attached.

Thanks.