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Does anyone know what was the first place in the world to get rid of onboard cash ticket sales on buses? London did over ten years ago after the 05/07/2014 (or actually after 04:29:59 on the 06/07/2014 to be more exact) and was the first (and still practically the only one) in the UK to do so. But i am wondering if other countries did first. I have a feeling that some places in Mainland Europe may have went cashless before then?

Also how many countries have so far gone completely cashless on all buses? I can only think of two countries (Netherlands and Sweden) which have gone 100% cashless on buses. Most others have some cities that have gone cashless but in other cities you can still pay cash onboard. Are there any other countries besides Netherlands and Sweden that have gone cashless?

I certainly can not think of another country which has gone entirely cashless yet. Although many are rapidly going cashless on more and more buses. Especially in the last couple years and since covid. Some countries (eg Estonia / Iceland / Latvia / Lithuania etc) are quite similar to the UK in that they have gone cashless in their largest capital city but accept cash everywhere else.

A summary of the current situation from what i know:

• Andorra - All of the buses in Andorra still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• Australia - It varies by city. Five cities within Australia (Adelaide / Brisbane / Canberra / Melbourne / Sydney) have all gotten rid of cash payments onboard buses within these cities and surrounding urban area. To pay cash in these cities you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at convenience shops or supermarkets. But in all other cities and regions and in smaller regional towns you can still pay cash to the driver onboard.

• Belarus - All of the buses in Belarus still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver or conductor in any city or region.

• Belgium - It varies by region. Both buses within the Brussels Capital City (STIB/MIVB) and in the Dutch speaking Flanders (De Lijn) have gotten rid of cash payments onboard. To pay cash there you have to buy a ticket at information offices or convenience shops or newsagents. But the buses in the French speaking Wallonia (TEC) still allow you to pay cash to the driver onboard.

• Canada - All of the buses in Canada still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region.

• Denmark - All of the buses in Denmark still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region.

• Denmark (Faroe) - All of the buses in the Faroe Islands still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• Denmark (Greenland) - All of the buses in Greenland still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• Estonia - The buses in Tallinn went cashless on the 01/06/2020 a few years ago. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices. But all of the other cities (eg Narva or Parnu or Tartu etc) still accept cash onboard and the regional buses to and from Tallinn still accept cash onboard.

• Finland - It varies depending on the city. Three cities have now gone cashless. Buses within Helsinki and Lahti and Tampere no longer accept cash. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices or purchase a paper ticket from an information office. But the buses in all other cities (eg, Hameenlinna, Joensuu, Jyvaskyla, Kokkola, Kouvola, Kuopio, Lappeenranta, Mikkeli, Oulu, Pori, Salo, Seinajoki, Tornio, Turku, Vasa, etc) still accept cash onboard.

• Finland (Aland) - All of the buses in the Aland Islands still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• France - All of the buses in France still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region. However from 01/11/2025 next month Paris and the Ile De France region will become the first city and region to stop selling tickets onboard. If you wish to pay cash in Paris and Ile De France from next month then you will have to purchase and top up a smartcard at ticket machines or ticket offices at metro stations and railway stations or tram stops.

• Iceland - The buses in Reykjavik went cashless from 01/06/2025 this year. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain newagents or supermarkets or information offices. But all of the other buses in Iceland that go outside of Reykjavik such as the long distance ones between Reykjavik and other cities (and route 55 to and from Keflavik airport) continue to accept cash onboard.

• Ireland - All of the buses in Ireland still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region.

• Latvia - The buses in Riga went cashless on the 01/01/2022 a few years ago. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices. But all of the other cities (eg Daugavpils or Liepaja or Ventspils etc) still accept cash onboard.

• Liechtenstein - All of the buses in Liechtenstein still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• Lithuania - The buses in Vilnius went cashless on the 01/09/2024 a few years ago. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices. But all of the other cities (eg Kaunas or Klaipeda or Siauliai etc) still accept cash onboard.

• Luxembourg - All of the cross border buses in Luxembourg still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any cross border bus. But note that all domestic travel is free of charge so you can only buy tickets on International cross border buses.

• Moldova - All of the buses in Moldova still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver or conductor in any city or region.

• Monaco - All of the buses in Monaco still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver on any bus.

• Netherlands - All bus operators in Netherlands have gotten rid of cash payments onboard. No buses will accept cash as payment. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at information offices or certain newagents and supermarkets.

• New Zealand - Almost all buses in New Zealand still accept cash onboard. The only exception is buses in Auckland which went cashless on the 23/03/2020 a few years ago right when covid began. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices or purchase a paper ticket from a vending machine. But all of the other cities and regions throughout New Zealand (including other major ones like Christchurch and Wellington etc) still accept cash onboard.

• Norway - All of the buses in Norway still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region.

• Portugal - All of the buses in Portugal still accept cash onboard. You can pay cash to the driver in any city or region.

• Russia - Almost all buses in Russia still accept cash onboard. The only exception is buses in Moscow City and Moscow Oblast which went cashless a couple of years ago. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a Troika smartcard (Moscow City) or a Strelka smartcard (Moscow Oblast) at certain supermarkets or newsagents or post offices or railway stations. But all of the other cities and regions throughout Russia (including other major ones like Saint Petersburg etc) still accept cash onboard to the driver or conductor.

• Spain - Almost all buses in Spain still accept cash onboard. This includes the capital city Madrid which still accepts cash onboard and other major cities and regions. The only exception is Barcelona which has gotten rid of cash onboard. If you want to pay with cash in Barcelona then you have to purchase at ticket vending machines or certain information offices.

• Sweden - All bus operators in Sweden have gotten rid of cash payments onboard. No buses will accept cash as payment. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase at information offices or certain newagents and supermarkets.

• United Kingdom - Almost all buses in the UK still accept cash onboard. The only major exception is London (TFL Buses) which went cashless over ten years ago. To pay cash in London you have to either purchase and top up an Oyster Card at convenience shops or tube or rail stations or purchase a paper Travelcard ticket from ticket machines and ticket offices at tube and rail stations. Other than in London only five other small operations have gone cashless. These are the Gatwick Hoppa (Gatwick Hotel Bus) and United Minibuses (Gatwick Hotel Bus) and Centaur Coaches (Kent Commuter Coaches) and Ember (Long Distance Scottish Coaches) and Stagecoach Guernsey (Guernsey Buses) who have all scrapped cash onboard in the past couple of years. But on 99% of our bus operators you can still pay cash onboard.

• United States Of America - Almost all buses in the USA still accept cash onboard. The only exception is three random cities of Dayton Ohio (RTA) and Wichita Falls Texas (Falls Ride) and Northern Virginia Region Express Buses (Omni Ride) who have all gotten rid of cash in the past couple years. New York City (MTA) will become the fourth city from 2026 next year. To ride buses any of these cities you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain shops or supermarkets or ticket machines. But in 99% of cities and towns in the USA you can still pay with cash onboard.

There may be some other countries somewhere that have gone fully cashless but i can not think of any off the top of my head. Although sadly in another five or ten years there will probably be dozens.

Also are there any unusual bus payment methods in other countries that you can think of? I am not sure if it is still the case but i recall in some places the buses do not take cash or card or contactless and the only way to buy a ticket is to go to a newsagents or shop?
 
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Norway: in 2023 cash was the only way to pay onboard (at least in Oslo and Stavanger) - in a cashless society to boot!

Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.
 

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Norway: in 2023 cash was the only way to pay onboard (at least in Oslo and Stavanger) - in a cashless society to boot!

Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.
Norway is an interesting one. People there rarely use cash (it has one of the lowest cash usage rates in the world) but yet cash is accepted everywhere and they even introduced a new law last year mandating that all businesses must accept cash. You can pay onboard any bus with cash. It is such a contrast to neighbouring Sweden which has made life as difficult as possible for cash users.
 

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Norway: in 2023 cash was the only way to pay onboard (at least in Oslo and Stavanger) - in a cashless society to boot!

Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.
Most Italan cities still use paper tickets which you have to buy at news kiosks etc. These days most places probably allow (and encourage) contactless payments with credit cards. It must be many years since you were able to pay cash to the driver on city buses, if ever. Out of town services are different and cash/card is usually accepted by the driver.
 

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I think there are a few things to unpack here:
- possibility to pay by cash
- possibility to pay the driver

While London phased out cash payment of fares to the driver in 2014, paying cash was already disadvantageous for a number of years prior to that, because the cash fare had been steadily increased until it was nearly double the Oyster fare.

But even after that, it was not difficult to pay by cash if you wanted to - you just had to do it in advance. Oyster cards were still widely available for cash in many locations around the city, and the deposit was refundable. However, today, if you do not have an Oyster card already, you will need to buy one for a non-refundable £10. This is a significant barrier to paying by cash.

Unlike some other smartcard systems which have large minimum topups, Oysters can be topped up in 5p increments (10p at TfL machines). These sorts of issues can be found in other public transport systems too. Sometimes only a selection of possible fares can be paid by cash and/or bought from the driver, and sometimes it is more expensive to pay by cash versus other payment methods.


TURKIYE - Istanbul - when I visited in 2016, it was not possible to buy tickets on board. All bus passengers had to use an Istanbulkart or a prepaid token. Cash appeared to be the only payment method accepted to buy an Istanbulkart at that time. I could not figure out how to access the prepaid token system.

I have been unable to find out when the sale of cash tickets on board Istanbul buses was phased out. It could well have been earlier than London in 2014.



BOSNIA - Sarajevo - tickets can be bought using cash at many convenience kiosks around the city, as well as at offices at some bus terminals. Non-cash payments are not always available. One ticket kiosk refused a sale and told me to purchase on board the bus, but I never saw anyone buying on board. I went to another kiosk 20m away who sold me a ticket.

CROATIA - Zagreb - cash is accepted on board but it costs around 1.5x more than buying tickets from convenience kiosks. However, it appears that the daily ticket of €3.98 is the same price on board and in advance.

GERMANY - I have not come across a bus which did not accept cash on board, however many people use the EUR58 monthly subscription ticket. It appears to be impossible to buy this ticket with cash, although I recall a forum post about a successful cash purchase when the ticket was first introduced.

GUERNSEY - when I visited in 2023, it was possible to buy a pre-loaded Puffin smartcard for GBP/GGP8 by cash or card at the airport, but shop opening hours were limited. It was not possible to check the status of the smartcard at the airport. The £8 comprised a £3 non-refundable card fee and £5 of credit. Contactless payments were accepted on board, for a higher fare than using Puffin. The Puffin smartcard could be topped up using cash at the main bus terminal in St Peter Port (limited opening hours). I observed Scottish, N.Irish and Jersey currency being accepted there.

HONG KONG - all buses accept cash on board. Fares are the same for cash and non-cash, except that elderly concessionary fares are typically half adult fare for cash while they are a flat HKD2 fare for holders of personalised smartcards; and that fares paid by cash do not qualify for transfer discounts (and in some cases do not qualify for short-distance discounts).

JERSEY - fares paid to the driver cost GBP/JEP3 in cash, but £2.55 by contactless or app and £2.25 by Avanchi smartcard.

KUWAIT - cash on board appears to be the only way to pay single fares. All buses appear to have the same fare of KWD 0.250. A daily ticket exists for KWD 1.000, but is only valid on the operator from which you bought it. This is not particularly good value because all routes are operated by 3 different operators, and there is no way to tell when the next bus operated by your chosen operator will arrive.

MACAU - all buses accept cash on board. The cash fare is MOP6 for all buses (HKD6 also accepted). The fare is MOP3 when paid by Macau Pass smartcard. Physical Macau Passes can be purchased using cash for a non-refundable MOP30 + MOP100 initial topup (can be spent in convenience stores too). A Macau Pass app exists.

NORTH MACEDONIA - Skopje - it is not possible to buy tickets on board. Tickets must be bought from convenience kiosks spread around the city. Card is not always accepted. The kiosks are not open for the full duration of bus operating times, and are not always well-located.

NEW ZEALAND - Christchurch - paying cash to the driver costs NZD4 and officially permits one transfer within 2 hours, while using the Metrocard smartcard costs NZD3 and officially allows unlimited boardings within 2 hours of the first boarding; the Metrocard fare also has a daily cap of NZD6. The Metrocard costs a non-refundable NZD5, is sold in limited places, and requires personal information to be provided. The owner of a convenience store only accepted cash to purchase a Metrocard from him. He entered my personal information into a dedicated Metrocard machine.
Wellington - using the Snapper smartcard gives at least 25% discount on single fares versus paying cash to the driver. It is possible to purchase and top up the card using cash at retailers, but not at machines. Retailers may choose how much to charge for the card itself - typically NZD10. Top ups incur an additional 25c fee, and may incur a Visa/Mastercard surcharge from the retailer (using a local bank card with the EFTPOS system typically doesn't incur a surcharge). Contactless and cash are accepted on the airport bus for the same fare of $11.50, which is more expensive than the Snapper price of $8.95. However, buying daily passes on board is the same price whether you use cash, contactless (available on the airport bus only) or Snapper.

OMAN - cash on board appears to be the only way to pay single fares in Muscat. It may be possible to pay cash on board for long distance buses, but the operator's preference appears to be to pay at the bus station in advance.

QATAR - Doha - it is preferred for bus fares to be paid with a Karwa smart card. Typical fares are QAR 3 or 4, but in theory drivers also accept QAR10 cash as a single fare. When I visited several times in 2018, drivers were meant to sell a two-journey single-use smartcard for QAR10 on board. This was sold at the airport which took cards, but once when the desk was closed, I had to proceed to the bus. The driver denied the existence of this smartcard and indicated that we could travel for free, but when I got to my destination he refused to open the doors unless I gave him QAR5 cash. I was also able to buy this smartcard at a bus station where only cash was accepted.

SERBIA - Belgrade - buses are currently free, but when I visited in 2023 they were not free. It was not possible to buy tickets on board. Buying physical tickets was only possible at 5 offices spread around the city, and not at the airport. Cash was the only payment method accepted at those offices. The only other way to pay was using an app or sending an SMS from a Serbian phone number. The public transport system additionally includes some express minibuses which are not free. Payment for these is by cash to the driver.

SLOVENIA - Ljubljana - cash is not accepted on board, but contactless is. It appears to be possible to pay cash at machines spread around the city, by purchasing a smartcard for EUR2. According to the website, this is refundable in some circumstances.
Koper/Izola/Piran - it appears that cash is not accepted on board, but contactless is.
Long distance buses accept cash. For buses in other cities, the acceptance of cash on board appears to vary.

SWITZERLAND - Geneva and Basel - tickets are not sold on board but from machines at large bus stops. Tram stops also have machines. Not all machines accept cash (sometimes they take EUR coins too). Hotel stays include free transportation, so most tourists do not need to buy tickets.
Montreux - when I visited in 2019, tickets were sold by a machine on board rather than the driver. Some buses' machines accepted cash and others didn't.
In most of Switzerland, single bus fares are priced at a level where the majority of bus users would save with an annual/monthly/weekly/daily pass, so buying tickets from the driver is extremely rare. But at least in German-speaking areas I think it is possible to pay cash to the driver if you really want to.

Norway: in 2023 cash was the only way to pay onboard (at least in Oslo and Stavanger) - in a cashless society to boot!

Stavanger - when I visited in 2017, the local bus company website said the fare from the airport to Sandnes was NOK 33, however when I boarded with cash in hand, the driver made me pay an on-board surcharge of NOK 20. I gave him twenty 1kr coins. There was nowhere to buy a physical ticket at the airport, but apparently there was an app. At the bus station in Sandnes, there was a card-only ticket machine which charged me NOK 33.
 

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• Finland - It varies depending on the city. Three cities have now gone cashless. Buses within Helsinki and Lahti and Tampere no longer accept cash. If you wish to pay cash then you have to purchase and top up a smartcard at certain supermarkets or newsagents or information offices or purchase a paper ticket from an information office. But the buses in all other cities (eg, Hameenlinna, Joensuu, Jyvaskyla, Kokkola, Kouvola, Kuopio, Lappeenranta, Mikkeli, Oulu, Pori, Salo, Seinajoki, Tornio, Turku, Vasa, etc) still accept cash onboard.
In Tampere and Helsinki anywhere that can top up the Nysse card can also sell a paper ticket (for cash), which is any R-Kioski and some other supermarkets so pretty easy to find, it's also the only way for non-Finns to purchase season tickets. As you say rest in rest of Finland cash is accepted as in the UK.
BOSNIA - Sarajevo - tickets can be bought using cash at many convenience kiosks around the city, as well as at offices at some bus terminals. Non-cash payments are not always available. One ticket kiosk refused a sale and told me to purchase on board the bus, but I never saw anyone buying on board. I went to another kiosk 20m away who sold me a ticket.
They can also be bought from the driver for cash I did so without problems last year. Cash accepted in Mostar, as the only method if I recall correctly. Arriva in Slovenia also accept cash on board.

Already pretty comprehensively here, but off the top of my head can add:
• Kosovo Cash accepted as the only method
• Albania cash accepted
• Monaco cash accepted as in the UK
• Thailand cash accepted universally, usually as the only method, but card is also accepted in Bangkok
• Portugal cash accepted as in the UK, in Lisbon a higher fare applies but not elsewhere
• Gibraltar Cash (Sterling) accepted on board both companies, Amex also accepted unlike the rest of the UK
 

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Generally ALL communist eastern-EURope countries did not have any ticket sale ON board of bus/tram for citytransport-one had to buy before boarding. So that must have started in the early 1950ies years then or perhaps even late 1940ies. Validation was mostly by punching them-producing some holes in numbered squares-and it would even be possible, but as such ´frowned at´ to pass on such a ticket to a new boarder when alighting. Many locals who did not have any season would have a stock of such tickets (in old DDR common price 20 pf. each, in CzechoSlovak 1 CzK), just as one would have a stock of postage stamps in such old days. Ignorant first time visitors from that capitalist west were often able to purchase then such a ticket from them-on board- and pay with those precious WEST currency. All parties much satisfied then!
It was a kind of innovative advancement once that such tickets were declared universal nationwide valid-and not only in city of purchase.
 

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Pretty sure in Prague you couldn't pay the driver, and was as per dutchflyer's post above.
The trams you certainly couldn't.
 

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Pretty sure in Prague you couldn't pay the driver, and was as per dutchflyer's post above.
The trams you certainly couldn't.
That is a very recent thing thing covid and only on the city buses. The drivers on the city buses in Prague (100-299) stopped selling cash tickets back in late March 2020 when covid happened and it was then made permanent. The drivers on the regional buses and buses that go further out in to the suburbs of the city (300-999) all still accept cash onboard. If it was not for covid then i reckon a lot more cities would still be accepting cash onboard.
 

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On Dublin buses, contactless payments are not expected to be operational until 2029, so if you don't have a Leap Card or season ticket you have to pay the driver in cash - exact fare only in coins, according to the Dublin Bus website.
On my recent visit I had a 3-day Leap Card and didn't see how many passengers paid in cash as I was usually upstairs on a double-decker.
 

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Also in Ireland, this company runs the Waterford to Dublin express services I think. "JJ Kavanagh no longer accepts cash payments on its main bus services, and the company has stated that cash will not be accepted on its services. This change began on October 14, 2025"
 

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Also in Ireland, this company runs the Waterford to Dublin express services I think. "JJ Kavanagh no longer accepts cash payments on its main bus services, and the company has stated that cash will not be accepted on its services. This change began on October 14, 2025"
It sounds like that is only happening on their long distance coach routes:


They state on their website that their local bus services will still accept cash.
 

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It sounds like that is only happening on their long distance coach routes:


They state on their website that their local bus services will still accept cash.
To be more precise, it applies only to their commercially operated services, be they city, local or long distance.

Their PSO services (those under contract to the NTA) will still accept cash.
 
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I think there are a few things to unpack here:
- possibility to pay by cash
- possibility to pay the driver

GERMANY - I have not come across a bus which did not accept cash on board, however many people use the EUR58 monthly subscription ticket. It appears to be impossible to buy this ticket with cash, although I recall a forum post about a successful cash purchase when the ticket was first introduced.
Back in the 1990s I tried to pay cash to the driver on a bus in Jena but the driver told me they didn't sell tickets on board.

On many bus and tram networks in mainland Europe, the norm is for passengers to be expected to already have a ticket before boarding (and they very often have to be validated, although on some systems the validators are at the stops and on some they are on board the vehicle).

You do sometimes find self-service ticket machines on board, but unless this is the only or the usual method of buying a ticket where you are, it is best not to rely solely on these.
Most Italian cities still use paper tickets which you have to buy at news kiosks etc. These days most places probably allow (and encourage) contactless payments with credit cards. It must be many years since you were able to pay cash to the driver on city buses, if ever. Out of town services are different and cash/card is usually accepted by the driver.
As I recall back in the 1980s and 90s, many Italian buses and trams had a very basic ticket machine at the entrance into which you had to insert the exact fare and it would then print a ticket. Not sure if any Italian cities still have these, though.

There was also this thread from 2020 on bus and tram networks with no ticket machines or on-board sales and where tickets could only be bought from the various outlets selling them (newsagents, tobacconists, tourist information offices etc): https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...ket-machines-or-on-board-ticket-sales.200642/
 

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Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.
Likewise Eastern Europe, where again there were kiosks around selling newspapers, cigarettes (their main revenue), sweets etc, like an even smaller version of a UK corner shop. Though they were at various nodes in a city, they weren't necessarily by every bus/tram stop in the suburbs, and they did close in the evenings. I think the sale of tickets there started with the abolition of conductors, and drivers were never involved with payment.

Going along with this was a national shortage of small coinage, and if the kiosk did not have adequate change in the till then they would offer a couple of tram tickets instead! If you objected they would look around and offer a couple of their small packets of sweets, to the same value, as an alternative.
 

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To be more precise, it applies only to their commercially operated services, be they city, local or long distance.

Their PSO services (those under contract to the NTA) will still accept cash.
Dublin Express (a subsidiary of National Express) don't accept cash on their buses - only cards or tickets purchased from their website.

geoffk:

On Dublin buses, contactless payments are not expected to be operational until 2029, so if you don't have a Leap Card or season ticket you have to pay the driver in cash - exact fare only in coins, according to the Dublin Bus website.
On my recent visit I had a 3-day Leap Card and didn't see how many passengers paid in cash as I was usually upstairs on a double-decker.
Very few passengers pay in cash. The standard cash fare is €2.60 for a single journey, compared with €2.00 with a Leap card for 90 minutes of travel within a 23km radius of Dublin, not to mention fare capping. So using cash on board is a lot more expensive, as well as requiring coins and not providing change.
 
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GERMANY - I have not come across a bus which did not accept cash on board, however many people use the EUR58 monthly subscription ticket. It appears to be impossible to buy this ticket with cash, although I recall a forum post about a successful cash purchase when the ticket was first introduced.
In Berlin, Hamburg and Wiesbaden I know you can't buy bus tickets on board using cash anymore. It's either by card or in Hamburg it's with a strange prepaid thingy you need to load at a kiosk beforehand. There are possibly a few other cities.
 

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It's either by card or in Hamburg it's with a strange prepaid thingy you need to load at a kiosk beforehand.
Or with SEPA direct debit, which apparently is also available for buying tickets in the app.

What I find practical in many German regions is that tickets are available via the DB navigator app, so you don't require a whole range of apps to buy your tickets.
In Hamburg buying your ticket beforehand online or in the app is particularly attractive as you'll get a discount on the fare.
 

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Generally ALL communist eastern-EURope countries did not have any ticket sale ON board of bus/tram for citytransport-one had to buy before boarding. So that must have started in the early 1950ies years then or perhaps even late 1940ies. Validation was mostly by punching them-producing some holes in numbered squares-and it would even be possible, but as such ´frowned at´ to pass on such a ticket to a new boarder when alighting. Many locals who did not have any season would have a stock of such tickets (in old DDR common price 20 pf. each, in CzechoSlovak 1 CzK), just as one would have a stock of postage stamps in such old days. Ignorant first time visitors from that capitalist west were often able to purchase then such a ticket from them-on board- and pay with those precious WEST currency. All parties much satisfied then!
It was a kind of innovative advancement once that such tickets were declared universal nationwide valid-and not only in city of purchase.
However in the USSR, the norm was to pay on board. Buses and trolley buses had a number of ticket "machines" which were just glass-topped boxes with a slot and a knurled wheel. You dropped your money in the slot and turned the wheel to wind off the number of tickets you had paid for. The interesting part was that the coins landed on a little rubber conveyor belt connected to the wheel used for winding off tickets. Thus observers, or the next passengers to use the machine, could see how much you paid and how many tickets you rolled off. They could then presumably shame you or denounce you to the authorities if you misused the system. By 2003 the system had been replaced, in St Petersburg at least, by roving conductors.
 

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Buses in Vienna stopped selling tickets a while back.

Most buses in Salzburg stopped selling tickets on 1 October.
(according to https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowT...ickets_on_the_bus-Salzburg_Austrian_Alps.html)

The general rule in Switzerland is that you can't buy tickets from the driver at bus stops where there is a ticket machine, however buses in the Zurich canton stopped ticket sales on buses last December.

Drivers on some buses in Bristol (those branded as 'metrobus') don't sell tickets. Bank cards are accepted for tap on, tap off but the driver doesn't issue a ticket.
 

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Buses in China still accept cash payments I think - in most cases exact fare dropped into a farebox. Some routes have conductors that give change.

Last year buses in Barcelona were still cash handling, as were buses in Marrakesh.
 

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Generally ALL communist eastern-EURope countries did not have any ticket sale ON board of bus/tram for citytransport-one had to buy before boarding.
Almost but not exactly.
DDR used ‘Zahlbox’ which took either the pre-purchased tickets or coins.
So you could buy on-board.

Imagine a sort of one-armed bandit with a 6 or 8 (can’t remember) section wheel behind a perspex screen. You dropped your ticket or pfennigs through a slot into the machine, pulled the handle and a ticket came out, sometimes (I remember that bit jamming or nothing coming out).

It was not an honesty system, other passengers watched you and shouted at people who didn’t go to the machine. Elderly with a pass held it up to show before sitting down. Drivers took no part in this at all.

That was on trams in Leipzig, Halle and Erfurt in the late 60s/early 70s. I can’t remember how you paid for S-Bahn, I only remember using Halle-Neustadt, was it Zahlbox at the platform entrance?
 

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Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.

I purchased a handful of single bus tickets for cash from a kiosk outside Thessaloniki railway station in late 2023.
 

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Buying at a newsagents/tobacconists used to be the norm in Italy and various Central European countries but I've never done this and am not sure if it still happens.
I purchased a handful of single bus tickets for cash from a kiosk outside Thessaloniki railway station in late 2023.
I also bought tickets from outdoor kiosks in that city, but unless I am mistaken I thought they were run by the bus company and only sold tickets, rather than being convenience kiosks.

I also remember boarding from the back door and then inserting a €2 coin into a ticket machine on the bus, but I am not sure if it was only the airport bus which had this facility.
 

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I also bought tickets from outdoor kiosks in that city, but unless I am mistaken I thought they were run by the bus company and only sold tickets, rather than being convenience kiosks.

It was this kiosk which sold all the types of products you would typically expect from such a place.

I had alighted from a FlixBus nearby and sought to find a bus station outlet inside the station without success.
 

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In Switzerland Transports Publics du Chablais do not appear to offer any means of online sales. My sister who lives locally bought me a ticket online beforehand and printed me off a paper receipt. Not very user friendly.
 

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In Switzerland Transports Publics du Chablais do not appear to offer any means of online sales. My sister who lives locally bought me a ticket online beforehand and printed me off a paper receipt. Not very user friendly.

You can use the SBB app nationwide. For example:

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You can also use SBB Easyride nationwide on all public transport.
 

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One interesting thing is the USA and Canada where almost every single bus operator is exact fare and uses electronic fareboxes. You put your coins and banknotes in to the farebox and it tells the driver how much you put in. So it kind of works like a self service checkout.

Here in the UK a very small amount of bus operators use fareboxes but these are all old fashioned types without any electronics. It just has a clear glass screen and the driver has to manually look at how much you put in. So it is very easy to underpay and get a cheaper bus ride if you throw in a large amount of coins.

But the strangest thing by far is the fact that most bus operators in the USA and Canada do not give you a ticket. So you just put your money in the farebox and walk on. It always feels so strange to pay for a ticket but not be given any physical ticket.

Another oddity is that the three bus operators in the NYC area (MTA in NYC and Bee Line in Westchester County and NICE in Nassau County) are all coins only and do not accept banknotes. This is because they use extremely old fareboxes that only have ability to take coins. This used to be common decades ago when bus fares were cheaper but practically every other bus operator in the USA upgraded to banknote accepting fareboxes over a decade ago so i have no idea why these three have not.
 

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But the strangest thing by far is the fact that most bus operators in the USA and Canada do not give you a ticket. So you just put your money in the farebox and walk on. It always feels so strange to pay for a ticket but not be given any physical ticket.

If they do transfers then they need to give you a transfer ticket which they give you on request. Some operators have ditched those and now only allow free transfers when using a smartcard or contactless bank card.
 
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