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gray1404

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I'll be arriving into Victoria Coach station at 16.20 and my connection is at 18.00. However there is a earlier service at 16.20 I am using a Fully Flexible and Refundable Ticket. Am I allowed to catch the earlier service if we arrive in London in good time?

On a separate note, today for the first time ever I saw passengers having to load their own luggage into the lockers on National Express. The driver said he had hurt his back.
 
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I'll be arriving into Victoria Coach station at 16.20 and my connection is at 18.00. However there is a earlier service at 16.20 I am using a Fully Flexible and Refundable Ticket. Am I allowed to catch the earlier service if we arrive in London in good time?

You can ask the driver but it'll depend on what mood they are in and if there's space.
 

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You can ask the driver but it'll depend on what mood they are in and if there's space.
Oh darn. It's down to driver discretion. So it's hit and miss. I might as well ask if I'm there in time.

There definitely is space as the price of a ticket on said service is less then the service before and after (which I'm booked onto already). It's a regular regional service.
 

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The remaining businesses that made up National Express Transport Solutions (NETS) have passed to The Coach Travel Group, who had previously acquired Stewarts Coaches from NETS. The acquisitions are namely Clarkes of London, Kings Ferry, Lucketts Travel and Worthing Coaches and will continue to trade under their existing names, as well as still operate National Express coach services. The following quote comes from the Coach Travel Group website...

Lucketts Travel, Worthing Coaches, Clarkes of London and The Kings Ferry Coaches to return to their local roots​


20th October 2025



The Coach Travel Group has significantly strengthened its UK footprint with the acquisition of four well-known and respected operators from National Express Transport Solutions: Lucketts Travel, Worthing Coaches, Clarkes of London, and The Kings Ferry.

This strategic move reflects The Coach Travel Group’s commitment to reinvesting in the UK’s coach travel sector and restoring the local identities of these businesses while maintaining their trusted service delivery in private hire, contract work and coach services, which will continue under the new ownership.

Tom Stables, CEO of The Coach Travel Group, said: “We are thrilled to welcome these four operators to The Coach Travel Group. This is a powerful example of our mission in action bringing together respected regional brands, many with family-run heritage and giving them the support they need to thrive in today’s market. We’re not only safeguarding their future, we’re giving them the tools to grow.

The acquisition of The Kings Ferry and The Kings Ferry Connections strengthens our ability to fulfil nationally through the established team, bringing with it a highly regarded national sales platform and a significant, long-standing client base. These assets complement and operate in synergy with The Coach Travel Group model, enhancing collaboration across our network of Operators and enabling seamless, in-house nationwide fulfilment. Coupled with access to a substantial partner operator database, this integration allows us to rapidly scale operations to support major events and meet the demands of high-intensity clients with consistency, flexibility, and reliability.

The Coach Travel Group was launched in June 2024 following the merger of Alpine Travel, Barnes Coaches, Coatham Coaches, JH Coaches, Johnsons Coaches, The Ready Group, Swans Travel and Whittles Coaches. In December 2024, Stewarts Coaches and Horseman Coaches also joined the Group, further strengthening its position as one of the UK’s leading coach operators. The Group now employs around 700 people and operates a combined fleet of more than 450 vehicles nationwide.

Tom added: “The addition of Lucketts, Worthing Coaches, Clarkes and The Kings Ferry gives us a stronger presence across the South and South East. Importantly, we are continuing to operate scheduled coach services on behalf of National Express, which remain a crucial part of the UK’s national coach network. At the same time, we are committed to restoring each operator’s local identity and empowering them to grow in the private hire and contract space.

The acquired companies include:
  • Lucketts Travel – a respected Hampshire-based operator with deep community roots.
  • Worthing Coaches – serving Sussex with a strong reputation for group transport and contract services.
  • Clarkes of London – a trusted name in private hire and contract travel in the capital.
  • The Kings Ferry – a premium operator with a legacy in Kent and the wider South East.
While now part of a national group, all four brands will continue to operate under their original names, maintaining their commitment to customer service and local relationships. Integration is already underway to enable the companies to benefit from shared resources, technology, and group-wide support.
By bringing together operators who are aligned in their values and service quality, we’re creating a group that balances national reach with local expertise. This approach allows us to meet the evolving needs of customers across the UK while setting new standards for coach travel.” – Tom Stables, CEO of The Coach Travel Group.

Kevin Gale, Chief Executive Officer of National Express UK & Germany, said:

“We are pleased to complete this deal with The Coach Travel Group and we welcome them as our new partner operator on the scheduled coach network. Following a comprehensive review of our UK coach business, this move allows us to focus on areas where we can deliver the greatest value to our customers and stakeholders, while pursuing new opportunities for growth and future success.

“We are very proud of the achievements of our Transport Solutions colleagues and their valuable contributions over the years. We wish them every success for the future.”
Source: https://www.coachtravelgroup.com/ne...s-london-and-kings-ferry-coaches-return-their
 

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So apart from National Express (coaches), buses West Midlands and Coventry ), what else will be left ?
 
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The remaining businesses that made up National Express Transport Solutions (NETS) have passed to The Coach Travel Group, who had previously acquired Stewarts Coaches from NETS. The acquisitions are namely Clarkes of London, Kings Ferry, Lucketts Travel and Worthing Coaches and will continue to trade under their existing names, as well as still operate National Express coach services. The following quote comes from the Coach Travel Group website...


Source: https://www.coachtravelgroup.com/ne...s-london-and-kings-ferry-coaches-return-their
Stewarts also purchased Woods Coaches in June of this year. The coach travel group is growing steadily.
 

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Does this leave Woods of Leicester as the sole surviving, owned subsidiary? (leaving aside the directly operated Birmingham, Luton & Stansted operations) Also no mention of the Bournemouth operation at Holdenhurst Road, which I believed to be part of Lucketts?
 

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Stewarts also purchased Woods Coaches in June of this year. The coach travel group is growing steadily.
Which Woods are we talking about, the Leicester one? Stewarts bought that Woods back in 2014, with both passing to National Express in 2018. When Stewarts passed from National Express to Coach Travel Group in 2024, did it do so minus the Woods bit?
 
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Which Woods are we talking about, the Leicester one? Stewarts bought that Woods back in 2014, with both passing to National Express in 2018. When Stewarts passed from National Express to Coach Travel Group in 2024, did it do so minus the Woods bit?
Yeah, it’s Woods of Leicester Google was showing June 2025, my apologies.

Does anyone know if there’s any truth to the rumours about Edwards Coaches purchasing the Parks Plymouth operation?
 

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I haven’t heard any rumours of Edward’s Coaches purchasing Parks Plymouth operation as not been on National Express for while, but im not surprised, as Parks have been very unwilling to buy etc new Levante’s, and so have a old clapped out fleet, compared to Edward’s. I think Edward’s would be good choice as they have decent new Levante fleet, and operate to Barnstable etc and Penzance, so operating out of Plymouth shouldnt be problem for Edward’s.
 

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Just following up my own post, I note that both Lucketts and N.Express have valid operators licences for the Bournemouth Holdenhurst Road site(ex Yellowbus). Anyone know any more?
Re the 2 previous posters, I am still unclear whether Woods of Leicester is still owned by N.E or was sold off at the same time as Stewarts of Reading?

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Correction, I should have said Yeomans Way Bournemouth not Holdenhurst, feeling my age.
 

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To clarify, Woods of Leicester (also with vehicles based in Aston) is owned by NX and will remain owned by NX following today's announcement.
NX Bournemouth is not part of Lucketts and will not be passing to Coach Travel Group.
 

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Yeah, it’s Woods of Leicester Google was showing June 2025, my apologies.

Does anyone know if there’s any truth to the rumours about Edwards Coaches purchasing the Parks Plymouth operation?
If Edward’s purchased parks Plymouth one would assume new coaches and wage increase…
 

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To clarify, Woods of Leicester (also with vehicles based in Aston) is owned by NX and will remain owned by NX following today's announcement.
NX Bournemouth is not part of Lucketts and will not be passing to Coach Travel Group.
Was NX Bournemouth ever part of Lucketts? I note that routes out of Bournemouth seemed to be referred to as being operated by Lucketts.


Its interesting too to see these splits as NatEx bought all these forms up to bring the express coach operation more in house rather than sending money to 3rd party contractors. Unless NX has kept some depots somewhere, I presume that means they will be back to paying Kings Ferry and Worthing/Lucketts to operate services.
 

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Was NX Bournemouth ever part of Lucketts? I note that routes out of Bournemouth seemed to be referred to as being operated by Lucketts.


Its interesting too to see these splits as NatEx bought all these forms up to bring the express coach operation more in house rather than sending money to 3rd party contractors. Unless NX has kept some depots somewhere, I presume that means they will be back to paying Kings Ferry and Worthing/Lucketts to operate services.
As far as I understand CTG will be continuing to operate NX services as normal so yeah they’ll be paying outside the group now.
CTG’s CEO was of course formerly with NX so he’ll know these operations inside out.
 
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Does anyone know if there’s any truth to the rumours about Edwards Coaches purchasing the Parks Plymouth operation?
It's been confirmed via Park's' internal comms that Edwards are to take over Plymouth in January 2026.
Good timing on Park's part as most of the fleet in Plymouth is due for replacement.
 

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It's been confirmed via Park's' internal comms that Edwards are to take over Plymouth in January 2026.
Good timing on Park's part as most of the fleet in Plymouth is due for replacement.
Expect standards on those routes to go up dramatically then! I have a feeling they'll run the Cornwall routes single manned as driver swaps can be done easily from Edwards depot in Avonmouth as it's just off the M5.
 
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I seem to remember that N.Express had a subsidiary that ran Heathrow Airport car park shuttles, possibly for BA, they had a depot/yard somewhere around Hounslow and a small fleet of of enviro 200s, is this still in existence?
Staying in the same area, Sipson Road depot is quoted in various publications as an N.e site and I think it may have an Ops licence in the name of National Express, I have never been exactly sure who owns it, uses it, actually bases vehicles there or provides maintenance services?
 
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I seem to remember that N.Express had a subsidiary that ran Heathrow Airport car park shuttles, possibly for BA, they had a depot/yard somewhere around Hounslow and a small fleet of of enviro 200s, is this still in existence?
Staying in the same area, Sipson Road depot is quoted in various publications as an N.e site and I think it may have an Ops licence in the name of National Express, I have never been exactly sure who owns it, uses it, actually bases vehicles there or provides maintenance services?

The Hotel Hoppa work that NX carried out at Heathrow passed to Rotala.
 

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I seem to remember that N.Express had a subsidiary that ran Heathrow Airport car park shuttles, possibly for BA, they had a depot/yard somewhere around Hounslow and a small fleet of of enviro 200s, is this still in existence?
Staying in the same area, Sipson Road depot is quoted in various publications as an N.e site and I think it may have an Ops licence in the name of National Express, I have never been exactly sure who owns it, uses it, actually bases vehicles there or provides maintenance services?
The Hotel Hoppa work that NX carried out at Heathrow passed to Rotala.
National Express did also used to do the British Airways staff shuttle buses, but these are now operated by BM Coaches.
 

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It's been confirmed via Park's' internal comms that Edwards are to take over Plymouth in January 2026.
Good timing on Park's part as most of the fleet in Plymouth is due for replacement.
I'll believe that when I see it and it actually happens. Park's/Trathens have been part of National Express for over 40 years and it is well known that they get treated differently to all other NX operators.
 
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I'll believe that when I see it and it actually happens. Park's/Trathens have been part of National Express for over 40 years and it is well known that they get treated differently to all other NX operators.
I've read a copy of the staff notice - I'm just not in a position to share it.
 

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It's been confirmed via Park's' internal comms that Edwards are to take over Plymouth in January 2026.
Good timing on Park's part as most of the fleet in Plymouth is due for replacement.
Would have to be a hefty fleet replacement, assuming they have committed to it? Purchasing an operation that requires an almost entirely new fleet would suggest a very good price...
 

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It's been confirmed via Park's' internal comms that Edwards are to take over Plymouth in January 2026.
Good timing on Park's part as most of the fleet in Plymouth is due for replacement.
About time the Parks fleet has been clapped out.I have seen a few at Digbeth over the past few days looking like they dont care anymore.
 

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Have noticed Amans Travel covering Parks duties a number of times in recent weeks. Specifically the 101/102 service from Birmingham to Plymouth via Bristol. Other times, Parks have regularly put out a Levante that has their own livery rather than that of NX.
 

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Have noticed Amans Travel covering Parks duties a number of times in recent weeks. Specifically the 101/102 service from Birmingham to Plymouth via Bristol. Other times, Parks have regularly put out a Levante that has their own livery rather than that of NX.
They have one of their own duties I think.
 

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