SWR 455 twilight diagrams/workings

[TT-ONR-NRN]

5860 is allocated to 2S47 this evening, so is not yet off lease. I notice that on the new leaf-fall timetable diagrams, which commenced today, that this 4-car 455 diagram now includes a late evening trip to Windsor

Realtime Trains | 2U73 2233 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside | 22/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 2U73 2233 departure from London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside on 22/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

455 715 + 455 704 work back from Guildford as 2G58 at 18.04, then do a Chessington return at 19.17 ( 2M57 ) out and 20.10 ( 2M64 ) back; after that they're on the 20.54 Waterloo - Guildford via Epsom ( 2D63 ) and 22.42 return same route ( 2D78 ).

They then berth in the sidings immediately outside Waterloo, so there's a possibility they will be out tomorrow for at least the morning peak.

I wonder if it's time we should have a thread for the remaining class 455 workings?

Here’s a new thread specifically for those who want to discuss Class 455 units on passenger workings and diagrams in their last months, to keep the withdrawals thread free for that.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I personally don't like them either but have been out and about photographing them before they go. They were an important milestone in BR design; a new Mk 3 "standard" suburban EMU (along with their cousins Class 317 and 150) and the front end was improved upon with the /7's and /9's. They have been solid workhorses for the past 40 years and Wimbledon have taken good care of them. But like the 4-SUBs and EPBs they replaced; they have served their time and need to go.

I think posting the diagrams of units at risk of imminent withdrawal is a great idea if somebody has the time. I have been busy photographing them in their twilight years after a gap of about 10 years.

 

[442Haz]

Like them or loathe them, they have been the epitome of Southern region surburban transport for 42 years. They have easily the same nostalgic feel good factor to some as the old EPBs did until they wound up in 1995. They have earned their retirement. Personally, love the units, especially in their original interior condition and in BR and NSE colours. The time is right to let them go, but they should be saluted for getting people from A to B with no fuss or glamour, exactly what a 3rd rail surburban workhorse should do.

I'd imagine the final diagrams will be around November time, at a stretch into the new December timetable and perhaps one or two emergency workings into 2026, but that must at the rate of withdrawal seem very optimistic now.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

CORRECTION:

There is a typo in my post which has been quoted all over the place.

It is of course 455 705 with 455 715.

D'oh...

 

[Siemens Staines]

I personally don't like them either but have been out and about photographing them before they go. They were an important milestone in BR design; a new Mk 3 "standard" suburban EMU (along with their cousins Class 317 and 150) and the front end was improved upon with the /7's and /9's. They have been solid workhorses for the past 40 years and Wimbledon have taken good care of them. But like the 4-SUBs and EPBs they replaced; they have served their time and need to go.

I think posting the diagrams of units at risk of imminent withdrawal is a great idea if somebody has the time. I have been busy photographing them in their twilight years after a gap of about 10 years.

The LTP diagrams for the leaf-fall timetable that commenced this week are on SWRs website.

freedom of information

www.southwesternrailway.com

Note that the label "Diagrams July to September 2025" is out of date, but if you click on it, then it does take you to the September to December Carriage Working Notices and Unit diagrams. FX 455 diagrams commence on page 197, FO on page 195, SO on page 168, SU on page 138

 

[442Haz]

The LTP diagrams for the leaf-fall timetable that commenced this week are on SWRs website.

freedom of information

www.southwesternrailway.com

Note that the label "Diagrams July to September 2025" is out of date, but if you click on it, then it does take you to the September to December Carriage Working Notices and Unit diagrams. FX 455 diagrams commence on page 197, FO on page 195, SO on page 168, SU on page 138

No 455/8 diagrams according to that, I'm assuming come the end the only sub class remaining will be the /7 series.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

No 455/8 diagrams according to that

From a diagramming print out sense all 455's are listed as 455/7. They were never diagrammed or issued as separate sub classes. So what you see there is 25 diagrams, that's all that now remain.

 

[Andy1673]

I can add that now we have 27 diagrams of 455s becuase 22nd diagram of 701s isn`t introdused yet (may be next week or later). I mean the circuit originating off Staines CHS 5U06.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

From a diagramming print out sense all 455's are listed as 455/7. They were never diagrammed or issued as separate sub classes. So what you see there is 25 diagrams, that's all that now remain.

For 12 pairs and one single, I’m guessing?

 

[Big Jumby 74]

I can add that now we have 27 diagrams of 455s becuase 22nd diagram of 701s isn`t introdused yet

No doubt it (701) was planned to be in service this week. Just goes to demonstrate how a slight delay can throw the planned diagrams out for a short period. Ever was it thus!

Given these diagrams (as just posted) are dated until the December timetable change, I would hazard a guess that 455 wise, this will be the last such diagram issue from the SWR w/site. From this point on I believe the gradual removal from the plan of the last 25 diagrams will be done via STP (Short term plan notices). Same scenario will most likely apply from the start of the December timetable, should any 455's still be required from that date, they may well be back filled in to service to cover for 701's via STP notices as well.

For 12 pairs and one single, I’m guessing?

Correct.

 

[Siimo]

Got a ride on 455706 (in the 508 trailer) and 455729 today from Chessington to Woking on the way home from parkrun: the 200th anniversary seemed as good a day as any. Without planning to, I was wearing the same colours as these units - red parkrun '50', royal blue shorts and orange socks! The first train did seem pretty tired and appeared to have been skimped on cleaning, but the second was still in good nick. Another 455 overtaken by our 444 on the way up had been hit by an extensive graffiti attack, one wonders if they will bother cleaning it off.
Possibly useless observation: the tone of the train accelerating (I presume a mix of traction motors, gear drive and wind resistance) rises in exactly a perfect fourth, and the tone at 45mph cruise is a C sharp. At high speed it's an E flat. The 508 trailers still have windows you can open so took advantage of this, also welcome after a 16km trail run.

 

[Bikeman78]

5715 with 5716 did a round trip to Woking this morning. Currently at Clapham Yard allocated to work the ECS to Guildford for the 1558 to Waterloo via Bookham.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 29 Sep 2025 ==

31 units have worked today. One pair only worked the morning peak but the rest were all out this evening, so two pairs are covering for other traction.

5701+5731
5702+5865 am peak
5705+5708
5706+5871
5707+5873
5709+5734
5713+5717
5714+5719
5715+5716
5718+5728
5730+5737
5732+5742
5735
5739+5864
5750+5852
5860+5872

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 30 Sep 2025 ==

Tuesday 30th: 701012 had a door fault so 1230 Kingston rounder was cancelled. 5715+5716 have turned out from Wimbledon for the 1357 Kingston.

 

[Cravens]

Did a Class 701 go bang this morning? A Class 455 turned up on the 07:30 ex-Hampton Wick heading towards Richmond, which seems to be the first time in months I’ve had a 455 on this run.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Did a Class 701 go bang this morning? A Class 455 turned up on the 07:30 ex-Hampton Wick heading towards Richmond, which seems to be the first time in months I’ve had a 455 on this run.

That diagram has been run by 701s since the beginning of July, except for one week at the beginning of September

But it doesn't look like a 701 broke down. The only three absentees this morning are 12,41,56, and none of those were in use yesterday.

701053 had a failure yesterday evening, but seems to be back in service today.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Something of an Indian summer this morning for 455s, with 31 in passenger use. Their 25 regular diagrams plus

5729 2S05 0522 London Waterloo to Weybridge vice 2*458/4
5734+5849 2H90 0523 Shepperton to London Waterloo vice 701
5706+5871 2M05 0617 London Waterloo to Chessington South vice 701
5731 2C09 0620 London Waterloo to Reading vice 458/5

 

[Class15]

Something of an Indian summer this morning for 455s, with 31 in passenger use. Their 25 regular diagrams plus

5729 2S05 0522 London Waterloo to Weybridge vice 2*458/4
5734+5849 2H90 0523 Shepperton to London Waterloo vice 701
5706+5871 2M05 0617 London Waterloo to Chessington South vice 701
5731 2C09 0620 London Waterloo to Reading vice 458/5

Wonderful! That’s a lot of diagrams!

 

[Bikeman78]

On a less cheery note, 5715 went in the bin on Thursday. Along with 5707 and 5865.

 

[LUYMun]

5732 and 5873 went to Reading today:

Realtime Trains | 2C46 1439 Reading to London Waterloo | 13/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 2C46 1439 departure from Reading to London Waterloo on 13/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Bikeman78]

5706 on the Windsor line today. 1103 and 1333 from Waterloo.

 

[Solent&Wessex]

Is there a post anywhere which has the remaining 455 diagrams?

 

[sad1e]

The LTP diagrams for the leaf-fall timetable that commenced this week are on SWRs website.

freedom of information

www.southwesternrailway.com

Note that the label "Diagrams July to September 2025" is out of date, but if you click on it, then it does take you to the September to December Carriage Working Notices and Unit diagrams. FX 455 diagrams commence on page 197, FO on page 195, SO on page 168, SU on page 138

Is there a post anywhere which has the remaining 455 diagrams?

 

[Solent&Wessex]

Thanks, and sorry, completely missed that post!

 

[sad1e]

BLS had their 21st December save the date as the 455 farewell tour for a few days before they changed it back to save the date

If this does run i assume it will be the last run of 455's in passenger service ever.

 

[UP13]

BLS had their 21st December save the date as the 455 farewell tour for a few days before they changed it back to save the date

If this does run i assume it will be the last run of 455's in passenger service ever.
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Do you need to be a BLS member to book tickets?

 

[sad1e]

Do you need to be a BLS member to book tickets?

Nope , details have been announced today and it is available to book for anyone regardless of BLS membership.

 

[bb21]

A few people have asked me for up to date diagrams as the fleet comes to its operational end so I thought the wider community might find it useful, however please note there may be minor variations on Fridays (which I won't post separately as RTT would likely be a more efficient way of checking on the day) to the FX diagrams especially for late night services and occasionally first thing Monday morning, and while I will try and provide a weekly update, this will be subject to my availability. These can only be confirmed 3 days in advance so I am unable to give any confirmation earlier than the preceding Friday. As a result these updates are most likely to be provided over the preceding weekend. At the moment I am unable to commit to providing diagrams for weekends but I will try my best, again at the most 3 days in advance.

As with all planned diagrams, allocations are subject to change and 455s will also occasionally deputise on other diagrams, especially during disruption. Anything with two diagram numbers is booked 8-car, and anything with one diagram number is booked 4-car. I've also taken the decision that no ECS move is included in the list below.

I'm happy to answer individual questions however please take note of the time constraints above when asking.

FX diagrams starting 10/11/25 (8 sets remaining)

WM601/602​	2F02​	04:30​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	05:19​
	2D03​	05:39​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	06:46​
	2D14​	06:55​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	08:16​
	2G15​	08:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	09:38​
	2G26​	10:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	11:07​
	2M25​	11:17​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	11:51​
	2M32​	12:04​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	12:40​
	2F31​	12:50​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	13:38​
	2F40​	14:03​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	14:52​
	2G41​	15:03​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	16:10​
	2G52​	16:34​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	17:37​
	2M51​	17:47​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	18:22​
	2M58​	18:34​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	19:10​
	2F57​	19:20​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	20:09​
	2F66​	20:34​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	21:22​
	2G67​	21:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	22:38​
	2G92​	23:07​	Guildford​	Wimbledon​	23:52​
WM603/604​	2G08​	05:37​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	06:37​
	2F85​	06:50​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	07:47​
	2G18​	08:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	09:10​
	1D17​	09:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	10:16​
	1D26​	10:30​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	11:25​
	2J27​	11:36​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	12:14​
	2J34​	12:24​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	13:01​
	1D33​	13:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	14:16​
	1D42​	14:30​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	15:25​
	2J43​	15:36​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	16:13​
	2J50​	16:24​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	17:01​
	1D49​	17:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	18:16​
	1D58​	18:30​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	19:25​
	2J59​	19:36​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	20:13​
	2J66​	20:24​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	21:01​
	1D65​	21:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	22:16​
	1D74​	22:32​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	23:26​
	2D75​	23:42​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	00:56​
WM605/606​	2G10​	06:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	07:08​
	2F09​	07:17​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	08:08​
	2F96​	08:20​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	09:04​
	2F91​	17:02​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	17:57​
	2G58​	18:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	19:07​
	2M57​	19:17​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	19:51​
	2M64​	20:10​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	20:46​
	2D63​	20:54​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	22:07​
	2D78​	22:42​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	23:56​
WM607​	2R02​	06:01​	Hounslow​	London Waterloo​	06:38​
	2S11​	06:52​	London Waterloo​	Weybridge​	08:08​
	2S20​	08:33​	Weybridge​	London Waterloo​	09:55​
	2S47​	15:52​	London Waterloo​	Weybridge​	17:08​
	2S56​	17:40​	Weybridge​	London Waterloo​	18:56​
	2V57​	19:07​	London Waterloo​	Twickenham​	19:56​
	2U73​	22:33​	London Waterloo​	Windsor & Eton R​	23:29​
	2U80​	23:35​	Windsor & Eton R​	Staines​	23:51​
WM608/609​	2G05​	06:00​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	07:03​
	2D18​	07:39​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	08:55​
	2J17​	09:06​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	09:43​
	2J24​	09:54​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	10:31​
	2D23​	10:54​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	12:07​
	2D36​	12:42​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	13:55​
	2J37​	14:06​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	14:43​
	2J44​	14:54​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	15:31​
	2D43​	15:54​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	17:02​
	2G54​	17:09​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	18:10​
	2F53​	18:20​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	19:10​
	2F62​	19:33​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	20:22​
	2G63​	20:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	21:38​
	2G74​	22:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	23:10​
	2F73​	23:20​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	00:10​
WM610/611​	2F03​	05:50​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	06:38​
	2F86​	07:02​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	07:43​
	2D50​	15:58​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	17:16​
	2G51​	17:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	18:38​
	2G62​	19:04​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	20:07​
	2M61​	20:17​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	20:51​
	2M68​	21:04​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	21:40​
	2F67​	21:50​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	22:38​
	2F80​	23:03​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	23:54​
	1F83​	00:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	01:19​
WM612/613​	2J08​	05:54​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	06:31​
	1D07​	06:39​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	07:32​
	1D16​	07:47​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	08:46​
	2G17​	09:03​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	10:10​
	2G28​	10:34​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	11:37​
	2M27​	11:47​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	12:21​
	2M34​	12:34​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	13:10​
	2F33​	13:20​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	14:08​
	2F42​	14:33​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	15:22​
	2G43​	15:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	16:38​
	2D54​	16:58​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	18:16​
	1D53​	18:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	19:16​
	1D62​	19:30​	Dorking​	London Waterloo​	20:25​
	2J63​	20:36​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	21:13​
	2J70​	21:24​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	22:01​
	1D69​	22:24​	London Waterloo​	Dorking​	23:17​
WM614/615​	2F84​	06:41​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	07:26​
	2G11​	07:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	08:37​
	2F20​	08:46​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	09:52​
	2G21​	10:03​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	11:10​
	2G32​	11:34​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	12:37​
	2M31​	12:47​	London Waterloo​	Chessington Sth​	13:21​
	2M38​	13:34​	Chessington Sth​	London Waterloo​	14:11​
	2F37​	14:20​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	15:08​
	2F46​	15:33​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	16:22​
	2G47​	16:33​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	17:37​
	2D56​	17:44​	Guildford​	London Waterloo​	18:55​
	2J57​	19:06​	London Waterloo​	Hampton Court​	19:43​
	2J64​	19:54​	Hampton Court​	London Waterloo​	20:31​
	2F63​	20:50​	London Waterloo​	Woking​	21:38​
	2F72​	22:03​	Woking​	London Waterloo​	22:52​
	2G73​	23:03​	London Waterloo​	Guildford​	00:09​

 

[Siemens Staines]

Thank you for these diagrams, it is much appreciated. I assume from this that the diagram commencing with 2F06 0514 Guildford - Waterloo is the (last weeks 2*455) diagram that goes over to 2*450 tomorrow with the units displaced by 2C03 going over to 701?

 

[Stephen42]

Thank you for these diagrams, it is much appreciated. I assume from this that the diagram commencing with 2F06 0514 Guildford - Waterloo is the (last weeks 2*455) diagram that goes over to 2*450 tomorrow with the units displaced by 2C03 going over to 701?

Correct that one will now be 450 operated.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

A few people have asked me for up to date diagrams as the fleet comes to its operational end so I thought the wider community might find it useful, however please note there may be minor variations on Fridays (which I won't post separately as RTT would likely be a more efficient way of checking on the day) to the FX diagrams especially for late night services and occasionally first thing Monday morning, and while I will try and provide a weekly update, this will be subject to my availability. These can only be confirmed 3 days in advance so I am unable to give any confirmation earlier than the preceding Friday. As a result these updates are most likely to be provided over the preceding weekend. At the moment I am unable to commit to providing diagrams for weekends but I will try my best, again at the most 3 days in advance.

As with all planned diagrams, allocations are subject to change and 455s will also occasionally deputise on other diagrams, especially during disruption. Anything with two diagram numbers is booked 8-car, and anything with one diagram number is booked 4-car. I've also taken the decision that no ECS move is included in the list below.

I'm happy to answer individual questions however please take note of the time constraints above when asking.

FX diagrams starting 10/11/25 (8 sets remaining)

As someone who had a diagramming involvement in their introduction back in 1983, and someone who has always had a soft spot for the suburban work horses I was personally involved with (4 SUB's onwards), just wanted to put on record my thanks for your efforts in keeping others up to date, in what is a very fast moving scenario, that I can confirm (from a professional pov) can be bloody hard to keep up with in 'one's' day job, let alone taking work home to assist other enthusiasts. Well done!

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Yes I echo @Big Jumby 74's thoughts and appreciation. Lots of work that goes into diagramming/planning. I've kinda done my "last farewell" but may come out and follow the BLS tour (weather/health/non-work permitting).