I also noticed the higher trailing load of 800 tonnes. It also shows the planned max speed is only 27mph instead of yesterdays 75mph.
VSTP (Very Short Term Plan) schedules can often have incorrect speeds. For a while Network Rail outputted speeds multiplied by 2.24 for some reason. 27*2.24=60mph which is the same speed shown on Rail Record.
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I admire your optimism, but it's the the first time since May that there have been two consecutive weeks without a new diagram. The rollout should be speeding up, not grinding to a halt. There's clearly a problem.
Ah right. Good spot!
The summer timetable reduction was never about speeding up driver training, it was about continuing the driver training pace without short notice cancellations. The drivers required to do the training means their original duties required covering, and as the summer holidays typically have fewer rest day volunteers and more drivers taking ad-hoc leave days something had to give.
69009 + 701026
Was only a single unit - just seen passing Esher in excess of 50mph - didn’t see the number myself (but reported by XCTurboStar as 701026)
Purely for info for those who may be unaware, as railway terminology is often used, generally speaking VSTP moves are usually those planned and resourced by Control, as they are too late in the day for published alterations to be made to train crew schedules which have strict deadlines in relation to alterations. They have no input from train planning who plan and publish LTP and STP workings within the aforementioned crew diagram criteria.
It’s only two units by 800 tonnes would be the 730/2, which currently still have some stored in Gascoigne wood sidings
That supposes that driver training is always the limiting factor, the reality is that the limiting factor could have changed to the rate at which additional units can be brought through the removal from storage, modifications as needed, fault free running and any fettling to get them ready processes. There had to be several pauses in the Cl.700 roll out for exactly this reason hence it wouldn’t be surprising if the same occurred with 701s. (Peak Cl. 700 new diagram increase rate is the same as the max for the Cl. 701s).
VSTP speeds can sometimes be in ms^-1 and 27 ms^-1 happens to be 60mph…
Do you mean next week? RtT shows it as 2x455 today
Yes, that was in response to the discussion about a new diagram next week
Does anyone have a full list of services which will make up this new 701 diagram?
This is interesting as 701026 is not one of the long term stored units at Marchwood - it has only been there since 28.05.25 and before that it was at Long Marston, so it is probably in "better condition" than the others at Marchwood !
Indeed 701026 had only been at Marchwood for just under five months. The other eight (all 701/0s) have been at Marchwood for 16 to 18 months with 701047 being just under ten months.
the beginning stages rollout of 701 perhaps is still no space left, that's why they keep on going to storage, but not now as the 455s are going to scrap consistently each week
last in first out maybe?
Can be applied to basically anything on the 701 compared to the 707s.
Yup, it was 701503, links below:
The diagramm including that service today, so a good bet for being the one next week, is a Kingston rounder, but starting and finishing at Staines
Many thanks. Very helpful indeed.
I wondered that, but looking at satellite of the area there are a lot of run-round options and very few units stacked on top of each other.
As is 2C98 with 1056
OK, perhaps I wasn't being clear enough and should have explained I meant the standard service pattern and not any rugby extras.
Tomorrow's Virginia Water services are mostly booked to be 458s with the occasional 450s. 2C73/2C76 should be the only 701s tomorrow.
