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Seems that the train will be visiting Llandudno Junction and Blaenau Ffestiniog on Tuesday 16 September, before heading the Cambrian

I have often wondered why they didn't choose this as a route, operationally quite easy and still pretty

Realtime Trains | 1Z31 1548 London Victoria to Blaenau Ffestiniog | 15/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z31 1548 departure from London Victoria to Blaenau Ffestiniog on 15/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z32 0455 Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno Junction | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z32 0455 departure from Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno Junction on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 5Z32 0906 Llandudno Junction to Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Z32 0906 departure from Llandudno Junction to Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 3Z33 1318 Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf to Llandudno Junction | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 3Z33 1318 departure from Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf to Llandudno Junction on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z33 1342 Llandudno Junction to Pwllheli | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z33 1342 departure from Llandudno Junction to Pwllheli on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Blaenau Ffestiniog a0135 d 0455
North Llanrwst parked from 0529 to 0751

Luxury?

So spending the night shuttling from Llanwrst to Blaenau, rather than Haverfordwest, followed by a morning in Llandudno instead of along the Heart of Wales line.

Tywyn is now used for the second night instead of Barmouth.
 
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nwales58 said:
Blaenau Ffestiniog a0135 d 0455
North Llanrwst parked from 0529 to 0751

Luxury?

So spending the night shuttling from Llanwrst to Blaenau, rather than Haverfordwest, followed by a morning in Llandudno instead of along the Heart of Wales line.

Tywyn is now used for the second night instead of Barmouth.
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Might marginally win out over Barmouth. That said, if you're asleep I don't think it will matter!
 
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gazthomas said:
Seems that the train will be visiting Llandudno Junction and Blaenau Ffestiniog on Tuesday 16 September, before heading the Cambrian

I have often wondered why they didn't choose this as a route, operationally quite easy and still pretty

Realtime Trains | 1Z31 1548 London Victoria to Blaenau Ffestiniog | 15/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z31 1548 departure from London Victoria to Blaenau Ffestiniog on 15/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 1Z32 0455 Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno Junction | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z32 0455 departure from Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno Junction on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 5Z32 0906 Llandudno Junction to Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Z32 0906 departure from Llandudno Junction to Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 3Z33 1318 Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf to Llandudno Junction | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 3Z33 1318 departure from Llandudno Jn Tc Gbrf to Llandudno Junction on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z33 1342 Llandudno Junction to Pwllheli | 16/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Z33 1342 departure from Llandudno Junction to Pwllheli on 16/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Spends a lot of times in/around Wales doesn't it?
 
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Jacob Porrett said:
Spends a lot of times in/around Wales doesn't it?
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I think that's the point. The "Royal Scotsman" focusses on Scotland after all!

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The Brittanic Explorer made it to the North Wales Coast stopping at Blaenau Ffestiniog overnight and it is now on its way to Pwllheli without incident

Interestingly, the current Network Rail sectional appendix shows that mark 3 carriages are not permitted on the line
 

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gazthomas said:
I think that's the point. The "Royal Scotsman" focusses on Scotland after all!

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The Brittanic Explorer made it to the North Wales Coast stopping at Blaenau Ffestiniog overnight and it is now on its way to Pwllheli without incident

Interestingly, the current Network Rail sectional appendix shows that mark 3 carriages are not permitted on the line
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Whoopsie
 
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Arriva Mk3's have been to Blaeanu prob about 10 years ago when they were 67 hauled. Although i'm unsure if they were ever officially signed off.
 
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j37401 said:
Arriva Mk3's have been to Blaeanu prob about 10 years ago when they were 67 hauled. Although i'm unsure if they were ever officially signed off.
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I remember that. More recently the Virgin Pretendolino was only allowed as far as North Llanrwst and LSLs Chairman's train had to leave it's mark 3 sleepers in Llandudno a couple of years ago. So hopefully this is is a positive development
 
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Realtime Trains | 0Z36 1446 Bescot Up Engineers Sdgs to Shrewsbury | 17/09/2025

Real-time train running information for 0Z36 1446 departure from Bescot Up Engineers Sdgs to Shrewsbury on 17/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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66701/744 again

Realtime Trains | 1Z36 1000 Barmouth to Oxford Up & Dn Passenger | 17/09/2025

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97302/303 then the 66s from Shrewsbury

Britannic Explorer tomorrow.
 
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Saw it at Victoria. Looked a bit like a rake of grey mk 3's to me.

Not long after passed a load of brown and cream pullmans going the other way at Penge.
 
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The one tonight from Victoria to Bishops Lydiard I think is 2xGBRF livery ones
 
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Was top.and tail London-Bishops Lydeard last night but now on way to Penzance behind 66701 heading 66744
 
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It hasn't left Victoria yet so perhaps it isn't running.

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RTT now shows it as cancelled due to problem with the train.
 
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Maurice Turner said:
It hasn't left Victoria yet so perhaps it isn't running.

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RTT now shows it as cancelled due to problem with the train.
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There wasn't a schedule off Stewart's Lane either, who knows?
 
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Looks like it got as far as Fenny Stratford tonight.
Now 5Z99 to Wellingborough.

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According to RTT yet more problems with the doors.
 
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Maurice Turner said:
Looks like it got as far as Fenny Stratford tonight.
Now 5Z99 to Wellingborough.

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According to RTT yet more problems with the doors.
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Wonder where they put up the guests last night? Is there a Travelodge at or near Fenny Stratford?
 
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ECS went to Eastleigh TRSMD from Wellingborough on Saturday. I think it's still there.
 
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