They were more interested in their breakfast service, as far as I could see. Anyway, the scenery a bit further along is spectacular (see AT units for details!)
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Jacob Porrett
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Steddenm
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That 66 is looking a bit dirty down the door opening
Llanigraham
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Complaints on the Cambrian that the 1640(ish) Down passenger train from Shrewsbury had to be cancelled to allow the Belmond to go to Machynlleth.
Jacob Porrett
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A bit dirty yeah.
The punters got the full authentic west Wales experience this morning. Torrential rain and gale-force winds. Detrained at MCN and soaked through between platform 1 and the minibuses via the footbridge, despite the corporate pac-a-macs and the flunkies with umbrellas.
Sun Chariot
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Is that the most expensive Tractor Growl per mile cost in the UK?
And not for the first time either. I rather suspect TfW isn’t best pleased with the Bellmond and the BE.
I guess that was IJ19 BHI-AYW yesterday? Left BHI 25 mins late and arrived SHR 30mins late.
'This service was cancelled between Shrewsbury and Aberystwyth due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)'
Maybe blaming the presence of the Belmond train, which was more or less on schedule, might have been a handy excuse? Just a guess, obviously I don't know. TFW terminated another AYW train at SHR in the morning for the same reason, and that can't have been Belmond related.
Parts of the carpark at MCN were barriered off for their minibuses today though, which was certainly a nuisance, and they screwed up some Pwllelli trains big-time on a test-run a few weeks ago.
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Wilts Wanderer
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Out of interest, when the Royal Scotsman runs to Kyle of Lochalsh and anywhere else it does in the Highlands, what sort of punctuality issues are caused (if any) on the single lines there?
It looks more like 1J21 SHR-AYW, which was PD cancelled (i.e., planned). The Belmond took its path SHR-MCN.
1J19 was CAPED at SHR, probably due to the late-running, with a right-time restart from there as 1Z19.
50002Superb
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That’s a great picture
DarloRich
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I wonder if this Fridays trip to Yorkshire and Cumbria will run?
50002Superb
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I assume this is the one tomorrow:
Realtime Trains | 1Z20 1548 London Victoria to Keighley & Wvlr | 05/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 1Z20 1548 departure from London Victoria to Keighley & Wvlr on 05/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Followed by this:
Realtime Trains | 1Z80 0906 Keighley & Wvlr to Penrith North Lakes | 06/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 1Z80 0906 departure from Keighley & Wvlr to Penrith North Lakes on 06/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Then this:
Realtime Trains | 1Z82 1838 Penrith North Lakes to Ribblehead | 06/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 1Z82 1838 departure from Penrith North Lakes to Ribblehead on 06/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
And this:
Realtime Trains | 1Z26 1026 Ribblehead to Princes R'boro Ace | 07/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 1Z26 1026 departure from Ribblehead to Princes R'boro Ace on 07/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Then finally this:
Realtime Trains | 1Z66 0546 Princes R'boro Ace to London Victoria | 08/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 1Z66 0546 departure from Princes R'boro Ace to London Victoria on 08/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Peter Sarf
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The locos (66744 & 66748) and ECS (presumably the stock) went back to Eastleigh on 5Z56 today.
Hopefully only for some quick fettling/re-stocking, otherwise not looking good for tomorrows run to Yorkshire !.
Why not Stewarts Lane as far more convenient and has been hosting Belmond before I believe ?.
The source.
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Yesterday’s arrival into Victoria was 73 minutes late - most appears to have been lost at Clapham Junction.
Do Belmond do Delay Repay?
Do Belmond do Delay Repay?
It does appear that he stock went to Stewarts Lane, before heading down to Arlington in Eastleigh for the night before returning (Via Stewarts Lane) this morning.
eastwestdivide
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Looks like it's on the move at Eastleigh:
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Realtime Trains | 5Z65 0809 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Stewarts Lane T&R.S.M.D | 05/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Z65 0809 departure from Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Stewarts Lane T&R.S.M.D on 05/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Peter Mugridge
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Yes, it was sitting in platform 3 for quite a while, in full sunshine and attracting a lot of attention from everyone - it was quite a bit of fun telling the "normals" what the cost of a ticket for it was...
That joke was being cracked quite a bit with the Belmond staff while it was stopped!!Do Belmond do Delay Repay?
When it came back from Eastleigh today, did it have 99104 included in the rake? That one was still missing while it was at Clapham Junction.
I saw it in Carlisle today and the coaching stock was 99101 (next to 66748) to 99110 (next to 66744) in numerical order minus 99104.
Peter Mugridge
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Hmm... at least I think we can now deduce which carriage was causing all the problems in the test runs!
Planning to see it on the Chiltern line later this afternoon.
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If the coach was constantly causing problems and train's being cancelled, l'm surprised it wasn't removed before. Great loss of revenue and customer confidence.
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If the coach was constantly causing problems and train's being cancelled, l'm surprised it wasn't removed before. Great loss of revenue and customer confidence.
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Realtime Trains | 5Z66 0853 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf | 07/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Z66 0853 departure from Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf on 07/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Single coach sent back to Steele's today.
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Reported elsewhere as 99104.Realtime Trains | 5Z66 0853 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf | 07/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Z66 0853 departure from Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf on 07/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Single coach sent back to Steele's today.
Steddenm
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Weirdly RTT has it as cancelled yet still ran albeit was late early on and then arrived earlyRealtime Trains | 5Z66 0853 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf | 07/09/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Z66 0853 departure from Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Hamilton Gbrf on 07/09/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Single coach sent back to Steele's today.
BillStampy
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When a service is cancelled but then reinstated for X reason, RTT never gets rid of the cancellation message so it remains up even though it ends up running. Happens sometimes.
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Rarely any issues on the Kyle line. It often used to cause a small delay to the 1346 from Kyle as the RS is too long for the loop at Strathcarron, so by the time the 158 had arrived, dropped the token, the RS had picked it up, the driver had pressed the plunger for the level crossing and the train had finally left, the service train could often be five or so minutes late leaving which had a knock-on effect on other services. A simple fix a few years ago of retiming the service train to give a it a few minutes longer dwell at Strathcarron solved that!
50002Superb
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Does anyone know if this is going to be a seasonal offering or will it run throughout the year?
Belmond website showing trains in Sep, Oct, Nov. Then from Mar 2026.
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