That's only full journeys from Newark to Retford, though. For example, someone who wants to travel from Newark to any station on the Sheffield-Lincoln axis (apart from Lincoln itself) from would need to change at Retford.
5,560 a year so just under 8 each way per day but the point is still valid, you can see why that link is going.
But if it facilities more longer distance journeys and makes better use of the available capacity isn't that, overall, better for more people? There should be more services between Retford and Newark but they suffer from being on an extremely busy section of comparatively highspeed two track railway. If they were on a branch from the ECML then they'd absolutely have at least one train an hour each way calling at them. But sadly, for them, they're not.
Agreed, Durham is definitely poor. Though at least the morning peak gap has been plugged by a short LNER working from Darlington to Newcastle. But otherwise it's not great.
Those two do rank top of the list of Durham, with Edinburgh ranked 5th having around 153 daily trips. (15XX between NCL and DHM, 5XX between KGX and DHM)
For Cambridge there'll be the hourly Stevenage connection (and longer and more frequent services between Stevenage and Cambridge than from Peterborough).
Except that the morning "peak gap" train (0808 from Darlington) strikes me as a little too late for a lot of people working in Newcastle. The peak trains in the mornings are 1S01 (0710 at Darlo) and 9E05 (0745). 1S01 also stops at Northallerton currently; its successor no longer does.
Given that a number of the Newcastle stoppers are going to have to be 5-car (the 801/2s can only just cover the Edinburgh diagrams, let alone the stoppers), that may not be the case at all.
Is there really that heavy a peak flow at 0710? That gets to Newcastle at 0745. But either way there is still an 0706 and 0711 in the new timetable so that's well covered. Whilst the 0745 is still there just slightly re-timed to 0751. The problematic gap was the loss of the 0803 to Aberdeen (which seems like a much more likely peak service to me?) which has now been filled by the 0808 instead.
As noted, Northerallerton is another loser for sure.
I mean, yes southbound semi-expresses from Edinburgh do get crappy occasionally, especially during end of term times and the new faster, emptier service could be nice should it be a 9 car than 5.
The busiest train, purely from my observations at Durham was the old 1W02, now replaced by the 0808 ex Darlington service.
Which tallies with what I've heard and makes sense considering it's arrival time in Newcastle. Hence why its loss was a serious concern to the point of needing plugging with a short working from Darlington to Newcastle!
I don't know about 1W02 (because it's too late for me), but 1S01 and 9E05 always fill up well at Darlo and especially at Durham. A lot of students going to college in Newcastle as well, for whom I'd guess 1W02 may be a little too late.
I seem to recall there will be 10 class 897s, which will be an increase on the current MK4 fleet. I’m happy to be corrected but believe there are only 7 MK4 rakes.I'd be interested to know how many people from stations between Donny and Newcastle fly from Stansted with any regularity. I am suspecting a fairly round number
(Probably not none, but I don't think it's going to be enough to plan a timetable around, and many would drive)
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Will the coming of the CAFs improve this, I guess? Or are they just drop in replacements for Mk4 sets and thus only providing capacity uplift on Leeds services?
I've travelled Darlington to Stansted a couple of time.I'd be interested to know how many people from stations between Donny and Newcastle fly from Stansted with any regularity. I am suspecting a fairly round number
(Probably not none, but I don't think it's going to be enough to plan a timetable around, and many would drive)
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Will the coming of the CAFs improve this, I guess? Or are they just drop in replacements for Mk4 sets and thus only providing capacity uplift on Leeds services?
Only 4 rakes of MK4 in service each day, occasionally 5 sets.
By the time CAF units arrive. Timetable may yet again of been altered, and most certainly diagrams will be rewritten.I'd be interested to know how many people from stations between Donny and Newcastle fly from Stansted with any regularity. I am suspecting a fairly round number
(Probably not none, but I don't think it's going to be enough to plan a timetable around, and many would drive)
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Will the coming of the CAFs improve this, I guess? Or are they just drop in replacements for Mk4 sets and thus only providing capacity uplift on Leeds services?
Durham interests me with family at University in Newcastle and Durham, their home in Essex.
Correct. Roughly six passenger trains missing to start with.
Will additional stops be put into other services to compensate as I assume some of the missing services were due to call at some of the minor stations such as Northallerton, Retford, Grantham etc. that have a less frequent service?
That's a lot of people to fit into an hourly King's Cross service where, as far as I can see, at least half of the diagrams are going to be 5-car.
As a Thirsk passenger I can say that thus far we have been clobbered, and are set to be again. To go to Newcastle as I often do, we have to change at Northallerton. The wait there on both legs is shaping up to be around 45 mins a time.
