[SE] Trafikverket cancels procurement for new night train rolling stock - no eligible bids

[jamesontheroad]

Continuing the discussion here and here, Sveriges Radio reports today that Trafikverket (the Swedish Transportation Agency) received no eligible bids for the new “Norrland” night train rolling stock.
The procurement has been cancelled.

I’ll post other news links that can be more easily translated when they emerge later.

 

[nwales58]

Might it need subsidisy long term for a PSO air route to Kiruna with integrated bus connections to Abisko, Riksgränsen, Karesuando even?

 

[jamesontheroad]

Might it need subsidisy long term for a PSO air route to Kiruna with integrated bus connections to Abisko, Riksgränsen, Karesuando even?

The night trains serve Umeå, Luleå, Kiruna and Narvik, all of which already have commercial air service with both SAS and Norwegian. Gällivare has an existing PSO route with Populair. So the train doesn’t need replacing with air service.

Like the procurement for the Norrland night train operator which received no bids, it looks like Trafikverket are the problem here, writing calls for tenders that no commercial provider is willing or able to meet.

 

[JonasB]

I’ll post other news links that can be more easily translated when they emerge later.

I've tried to find out more about it, but Trafikverket won't say much. Apart from that they will issue a new tender later this year.

I'd love to know what the bid were and why they were rejected. But splitting the tender in two (one for locos and one for coaches) might be a good idea. Locos shouldn't be a problem, a Vectron should be able to handle the trains with very little modification.

 

[mountainpixel]

I dont't know if any standard Vectron would classify as suitable. Siemens is not really keen on making special Vectron versions. It's basically you get what we produce or f*** off.

 

[JonasB]

I dont't know if any standard Vectron would classify as suitable. Siemens is not really keen on making special Vectron versions. It's basically you get what we produce or f*** off.

Maybe, but that hasn't stopped them from doing it. And I don't think any major modifications are needed, a standard gauge version of the Vectrons delivered to Finland will probably be fine.

 

[43096]

Maybe, but that hasn't stopped them from doing it. And I don't think any major modifications are needed, a standard gauge version of the Vectrons delivered to Finland will probably be fine.

There's already a Vectron AC that is fitted for Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway (country package B18) that is either 160km/h or 200km/h max speed with electric train supply as standard. Not sure why you would need anything different?

 

[Gag Halfrunt]

The specification for the carriages included insulation for extreme cold, so the locomotives would also require winterisation.

@jamesontheroad wrote in the first thread:

The sticking point has been the choice between wider Swedish-profile rolling stock and narrower "continental" profile carriages. The committee concluded that with the smaller cross-section and the necessary insulation in the carriage walls for cold temperatures, the carriages would have a lower overall passenger capacity than a wider carriage.

[SE] Trafikverket has issued a tender for new night trains (update)

Mods, this could be considered a continuation of this closed thread (albeit one where I used the wrong country prefix, S instead of SE :E) https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/s-trafikverket-has-issued-a-tender-for-new-night-trains.241842/ The traffic committee in the Swedish Riksdag has...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[JonasB]

There's already a Vectron AC that is fitted for Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway (country package B18) that is either 160km/h or 200km/h max speed with electric train supply as standard. Not sure why you would need anything different?

Yes, there are Vectrons approved for Sweden and Norway. But for these trains to the far north of the country they need to be adapted for the winter weather. The Finnish Vectrons are built for temperatures down to -40°, but I think a standard Vectron is only built for -25°.