The original plan was December. Pretty sure they could get a few drivers competent by then .
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And Train Managers, and catering teams, and station teams.
Also the depot teams.
That's still quite a few people to get trained, when at the moment (not actually confirmed officially) they only have one unit at Etches Park.
Oh I don't necessarily think it will , but definitely was a diagram pencilled in .
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The 9 car units don’t have a 25kV busline either, so you’ll only see one pantograph raised and one transformer in use.
duffield
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I predict at least one passenger diagram will get scheduled before 31st December, in order to save face.
PG
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Damn, beat me to it!
Something for the MD to stick on their CV, à la Claire Mann with the first 701 just before she left SWR.
tfw756rider
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Which 810?
Post #4108!
There already was .
South-of-Bedford OLE upgrade is now complete; however the 100mph cap on electric traction has an undefined stay of execution, for reasons I'm trying (and failing) to understand.
ryan125hst
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What's the high voltage line for that runs at the top centre of each carriage? I thought this was the 25kV bus line? There's what looks like a bus bar linking it to the pantograph on the driving vehicles.
Thanks for the heads up. Confirmed 810009 is on this.
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Didn't see it picked up here but it looks like an Old Dalby based 810 was out and about last week overnight, getting as far south as Luton
Today seems like today's plan is test running Old Dalby-Bedford-Leicester-Luton-Old Dalby
Today seems like today's plan is test running Old Dalby-Bedford-Leicester-Luton-Old Dalby
Sadly not a chance - signalling failure at Wigston - it’s a right mess!
I take that back - it looks like they’ve been able to run.
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InTheEastMids
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It wasn't planned to go via Wigston, but via Oakham.
RTT seems to think it reached Bedford and headed back north towards Leicester via Harborough as 5Q32
Data doesn't look particularly trustworthy so would suggest an eyeball is needed to confirm.
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Just arriving at Leicester apparently. Hopefully it'll still be there in 10 minutes but seeing as its in platform 1 and I'm due to be on 1 it has to be doubtful.
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Nottingham59
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Does that mean that the problems with overheating wiring and not working in tandem have been fixed?
Not sure on about that - only the chosen few are allowed near them or on them at the minute!
10 car working still needs all the relevant testing to be carried out by Hitachi.
These 2 units are the first to be leased by EMR which enables proper driver and other crew training to commence.
As for over heating wiring, as long as it has been replaced at the factory on these units, then yes, sorted.
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Wiring sorted on those units. That's why 008 went back to Newton Aycliffe.
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At the risk of overlapping with the "stopgap options" speculation, does this apparent progress end the need for stopgaps?
Any genuinely informed news going around within EMR?
i.e. get the crews into training, lose a few 7-car to Lumo in September, accept that Oct/Nov is probably going to be... challenging... and then hope to get a few 810s slotted into what are currently 7-car diagrams before Christmas?
(At the risk of being cynical, if 222s are heading to Lumo and there aren't enough to run the service, the crews from the cancelled services can be used to accelerate training. It's a genuine win-win!)
You stop yourself now! How dare you talk sense!
Nottingham59
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How long will it take for the wiring to be fixed on all the units?
That way, at least, they could run as 300-seat 5-cars.
Which looks like it started today but only got as far as Nottingham due to a fatality at Kettering.
Realtime Trains | 3A27 1300 Etches Park Sdgs to Nottingham | 12/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A27 1300 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to Nottingham on 12/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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DaveyJones
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810008 is allocated to the same journeys todayWhich looks like it started today but only got as far as Nottingham due to a fatality at Kettering.
Realtime Trains | 3A27 1300 Etches Park Sdgs to Nottingham | 12/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A27 1300 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to Nottingham on 12/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Realtime Trains | 3A27 1300 Etches Park Sdgs to St Pancras International | 13/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A27 1300 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to St Pancras International on 13/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | 3A28 1548 St Pancras International to Etches Park Sdgs | 13/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A28 1548 departure from St Pancras International to Etches Park Sdgs on 13/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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InTheEastMids
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810008 is allocated to the same journeys today
Realtime Trains | 3A27 1300 Etches Park Sdgs to St Pancras International | 13/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A27 1300 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to St Pancras International on 13/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Realtime Trains | 3A28 1548 St Pancras International to Etches Park Sdgs | 13/08/2025
Real-time train running information for 3A28 1548 departure from St Pancras International to Etches Park Sdgs on 13/08/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
So just to test my understanding (and perhaps to summarise for those that aren't following every twist and turn of the soap opera), there are now 2 different 810 test/training operations
- 3AXX based around Derby that are units that have been accepted by EMR, and these are operated by EMR (crew training etc.)
- 5QXX based out of Old Dalby that are units still owned by Hitachi(?) and doing testing etc., prior to handover
Not sure whether both have run on the same day yet, the Old Dalby ones seem to have been cancelled for today.
Shame. We all secretly look forward to a good old crisis with decrepit cast-offs and heritage trains being press-ganged into frontline service.
Wyrleybart
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I wouldnt call that a win-win if timetabled passenger trains are cancelled. It means that yet again the railway industry has failed the customers as, despite sky high fares, the service just isn't being offered.