Routeing point fares checks

[Crithylum]

When determining a valid routeing point, if the "fare" from a start or end point to the routing point is greater than the fare for the complete journey, that routeing point is invalid. It must be compared with the same ticket type. http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf

However, if (for example) an anytime ticket comparison passed the fare check (anytime fare vs anytime fare), but off-peak failed (off-peak vs off-peak), what would happen?
1. If any comparison passes, the route is valid on all tickets (between the two stations)
2. If the comparison for the selected ticket type passes, the route is valid on that ticket type
3. If any comparison fails, the route is not valid on all tickets

Furthermore, (super) off-peak restrictions can vary quite significantly, as well as the potential mess of regionally restricted railcards, and operator only tickets

Also, what happens when all routeing points fail the fare check, such as the London terminals - Slateford super off-peak single? Is that ticket not valid on any route?

 

[yorkie]

Edinburgh group passes the fares check for Slateford to London.

You are getting muddled up over the rules; Super Off Peak fares, Railcard discounts, restriction codes, TOC restrictions etc don't come into it; take a look here:

RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide - Section 3 - Routeing

Section 3 - Routeing Contents 3.1 Introduction to routeing 3.2 Through trains 3.3 Shortest route 3.4 Routes shown in the National Routeing Guide 3.5 Doubling back 3.6 Tickets routed via stations that are not on a permitted route 3.7 Group Stations (as an origin/destination) 3.8...

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As with airline fares, booking engines take care of applying the rules. The general public are simply expected to simply use a booking engine, and not make any calculations themselves.

Those interested in how things work 'under the hood' can do so, but it can be very time consuming to fully understand the rules; there is a lot of material to take in, and you also have to understand the logic involved in understanding when to apply the rules. Only understanding part of the rules, or misunderstanding the rules, can be quite dangerous as these lead to incorrect conclusions, so it's a bit of a minefield.

 

[CyrusWuff]

When determining a valid routeing point, if the "fare" from a start or end point to the routing point is greater than the fare for the complete journey, that routeing point is invalid. It must be compared with the same ticket type. http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf

The best thing to do is use the Routeing Point calculator, as that does the checks for you.

If you're doing it yourself, you need to use the fares from NFM64 (September 1996), before TOCs started their shenanigans.

In the case of Slateford - London, both Motherwell Group and Edinburgh Group are valid routeing points as what was then the Standard Open Single (SOS, now Anytime Single) to London from all three was the same price (£68.00.)