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Which Peak District railways to visit?

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Peak Rail has it's yard with plenty of interesting stuff.

Can you walk around the yard to view the stock or not?

Midland Railway at Butterley is fine for a full day. Dont think you can do it in a few hours because you wont manage to see the best bits. Swanwick is only accessible via the train from Butterley so forget the car. Leave car at Butterley station and just go with the flow.

Always enjoy a visit to the Midland Railway, the first time I visited I didn't realize just how much there was at Swanwick, one of the sheds is tucked away and a bit of a walk from the main complex around the station, I didn't know about it until my second visit!

The Golden Valley light railway is worth a ride too.
 
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What about the old Cromford and High Peak route. There are regular trains to Cromford on the Derby-Matlock route. The High Peak route itself has of course be closed many years ago, but the walk up the old incline is strenuous and full of railway architecture. If you walk all the way you reach the Tissington route at Parsley Hay. This is the old closed Ashbourne to Buxton line. Lovely old signal box at Parsley Hay.
So if you are fit do a very long circular route. Walk Ashbourne to Parsely Hay on the Tissington Trail. Then down the Cromford and High Peak to Cromford. Lots of railway architecture all the way, and the tunnel at Ashbourne can be fun, esp if they are playing steam train recordings. Train from Cromford to Derby and then hourly bus to Ashbourne.
Great day out with lots of exercise as well.
 

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If you want to enjoy a modest but very pleasant chunk of the High Peak trail without anything strenuous, you can get the bus (110) from Matlock** or Cromford to Brassington, take a short (3/4mile) not too demanding walk to get to the trail, then it's six miles to High Peak Junction via Middleton Top, with all the inclines downhill, then you follow the Cromford canal to Cromford and get the train.

** I'd always go for getting the bus from Matlock rather than Cromford since Matlock is better for provisions (e.g. M&S) and the service starts from the bus station there, giving you more certainty what with the local traffic conditions and the relative infrequency.
 

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The Golden Valley light railway is worth a ride too.
I can be decidedly out of touch -- I swear I'd never heard of the above line, until a moment ago -- had me thinking, "Pontrilas to Hay-on-Wye? -- What the...?" (Googling, has made sense of this thing to me.)
 

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There's an hourly bus service from Hanley - with frequent connections from Stoke station - to Cheddleton, thence a very pleasant walk along the canal towpath to the station.

So, after getting to Stoke by train, that's two buses and then a walk? No wonder the Churnet Valley is one of the (very few) UK preserved railways I have never visited! Some other railways with no mainline rail connection lay on buses to reach them, for Gala events anyway, AFAIK Churnet do not do this? But running to Leek will make things much easier.

I had a good day at the Ecclesbourne Valley Railway yesterday, the Ravenstor incline (in a brake van propelled by a Class 08!) was well worth doing. Only annoying thing was waiting 30 minutes in Wirksworth for a bus to Matlock, thanks to Trent Barton.
 

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One thing to bear in mind with the Churnet Valley, unless things have moved on from the time of my visit three years ago, is that they expect all visitors to start their journey at Kingsley & Froghall. I turned up at Cheddleton and it was quite apparent that the staff there were not accustomed to issuing tickets!
 

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One thing to bear in mind with the Churnet Valley, unless things have moved on from the time of my visit three years ago, is that they expect all visitors to start their journey at Kingsley & Froghall. I turned up at Cheddleton and it was quite apparent that the staff there were not accustomed to issuing tickets!

On the occasion of my visit two years ago, I had no problem purchasing a ticket at Cheddleton....although the elderly volunteer in charge of the station did take some time to complete the transaction.
 

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I can be decidedly out of touch -- I swear I'd never heard of the above line, until a moment ago -- had me thinking, "Pontrilas to Hay-on-Wye? -- What the...?" (Googling, has made sense of this thing to me.)

Never head of that one, I was referring to the Golden Valley light railway that runs from Swanwick station on the Midland Railway for about a mile through the country park, it's mostly ex-industrial stock but they also have an ex-Ffestiniog coach they use from time to time.
 

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You've also got the Foxfield Railway not (too) far from there, although not in the Peak District. We rather enjoyed our visit to that railway, although it's quite a short ride and nothing really to see at the other end.
 

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You've also got the Foxfield Railway not (too) far from there, although not in the Peak District. We rather enjoyed our visit to that railway, although it's quite a short ride and nothing really to see at the other end.
When the colliery is open there's lots to see
 

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The Golden Valley Narrow Gauge line mentioned above, i think only opens when the MRC is running a service but is well worth a look.
Recently restored a steam loco and has a number of working diesels.
In recent experience, a very friendly group of guys and a ride down the line and back is very reasonable price.
 

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I had hoped to have a ride on Peak Rail before the Matlock Town vs Bradford (PA) game on Saturday 9th August. Particularly so because its their Peak Rail Steam Gala.

But the only do-able round trip leaves Matlock at 1105, one minute before the hourly train from Derby arrives at 1106. With enthusiasts likely to be travelling from all over the country, why haven't they tried to make it a more convenient connection??

Annoyingly if it hadn't been the steam gala, there would have been a round trip departing Matlock at 1140.
 

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Well I visited the Churnet Valley today for the first time, and I would recommend it. Despite the 47 appearing rather than the 33, I had an enjoyable trip through a scenic landscape, and the climb up to Ipstones requires a bit of "umph" from the loco.

The train was very busy - diners, a coach party, other normals and a smattering of cranks.
 

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Really, just because Bradford Park Avenue are visiting?

Perhaps you should ask them if they can make the connection, since there are so many people potentially inconvenienced.
A very odd post, and entirely unnecessary.

Why run heritage trains from a mainline station and not use it as a source of footfall by offering a useful, sensible connection? Other railways manage it perfectly fine.

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Well I visited the Churnet Valley today for the first time, and I would recommend it. Despite the 47 appearing rather than the 33, I had an enjoyable trip through a scenic landscape, and the climb up to Ipstones requires a bit of "umph" from the loco.

The train was very busy - diners, a coach party, other normals and a smattering of cranks.
I think that 47 is newly restored to service? It’s an excellent line, you need to try it again when steam is operating- it’s a cracking experience.
 

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Why run heritage trains from a mainline station and not use it as a source of footfall by offering a useful, sensible connection? Other railways manage it perfectly fine.
Perhaps comsider that they might know their market better than you do.
 

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A business needs more than one market to prosper, so needless alienation of an easy potential revenue stream is unwise at best.
So, as I suggested previously, if you think they've got it wrong the tell them. You may find they agree or you may find that they really do know their market(s) better.
 

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So, as I suggested previously, if you think they've got it wrong the tell them. You may find they agree or you may find that they really do know their market(s) better.
…Instead, I’ll just visit the nearby line that connects adequately with the national network, including offering a through ticket from my local station.
 

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…Instead, I’ll just visit the nearby line that connects adequately with the national network, including offering a through ticket from my local station.
I don't know of any preserved line that does that. There are a few, very few, that connect to the national network, but I don't know of any through booking
 

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I don't know of any preserved line that does that. There are a few, very few, that connect to the national network, but I don't know of any through booking
Ecclesbourne Valley started doing through tickets earlier in the year. The search engine now also recognises the two intermediate stations which where not shown for a little while.
 

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Timing trains to connect with main line rail services would surely benefit one market segment (and increase their railway's appeal and therefore revenue) without in any way disadvantaging other sectors?
Competing demands such as line length/round trip time, number of services, passing points and spacing of services often override convenience of mainline connections, which is not ideal, but understandable if only a small fraction of the customers use those connections. In particular it may be impossible on intensive service days such as galas to provide reasonable connections and run the desired service. Personally, if there's a 50 minute wait (at Matlock for example) I'm OK with going to a handy pub, or just sitting on the platform if it's a nice day. But I realise that doesn't work for everyone.
 

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Really, just because Bradford Park Avenue are visiting?

Perhaps you should ask them if they can make the connection, since there are so many people potentially inconvenienced.

I did ask. They replied "I understand your frustration, however writing a gala timetable can be very difficult as we also have to factor in crew breaks, shift length as well as various stock moves etc. we can only apologise for any inconvenience."

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I don't know of any preserved line that does that. There are a few, very few, that connect to the national network, but I don't know of any through booking

The Ffestiniog Round Robin is one such ticket which receives next to no publicity. There is nothing at all on the Ffestiniog website. When I last used this ticket, bought at Chester, I did phone the FR in advance to make sure I would get a place on my chosen train.

 
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I did ask. They replied "I understand your frustration, however writing a gala timetable can be very difficult as we also have to factor in crew breaks, shift length as well as various stock moves etc. we can only apologise for any inconvenience."
Well done for asking the question (I mean that, genuinely). Obviously the answer isn't what you would have wanted but it does show that they have constraints, just like the main line railway. Anyway, for what it's worth, there is a half-hourly bus service from Chesterfield to Matlock which may provide better connections if you are travelling from the north.
 

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There are only three return trips for attendees arriving at Matlock by train, departing at 1105, 1310 and 1520, so keener railway enthusiasts than me would also want to make the 1105. I'm not quite sure what constraints on a self-contained railway stop Peak Rail running everything 10 mins or so later but they must have their reasons.

Sadly I'm travelling from Cheshire and would have to catch the 0652 from my local station and change four times with some tight connections to get the earlier 1005 arrival in Matlock at which time, of course, the pubs would still be shut. Getting the bus from Chesterfield to Matlock, or from Buxton to Rowsley South, doesn't work particularly well either. But thanks for the suggestion. So I'll just stick to the footy and Matlock's excellent GBG pubs, crampons being needed to get to two of them! To be honest, I'm more of a track basher than a steam enthusiast and I have done the line a few times before.

I once did a round trip on the Heights of Abraham cable car en route to a match at Causeway Lane but it now costs £29.50 (£26.50 online). Needless to say I won't be doing a repeat.
 

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Sadly I'm travelling from Cheshire and would have to catch the 0652 from my local station and change four times with some tight connections to get the earlier 1005 arrival in Matlock at which time, of course, the pubs would still be shut.
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The spoons may be long gone, but there is the Bod cafe-bar (200m, 3mins from the station) which opens at 8.30am on Saturdays and serves locally brewed beer (I haven't personally tried it so I can't say if it's any good, but judging by the pictures there's quite a lot of choice).
 
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Well I visited the Churnet Valley today for the first time, and I would recommend it. Despite the 47 appearing rather than the 33, I had an enjoyable trip through a scenic landscape, and the climb up to Ipstones requires a bit of "umph" from the loco.

The train was very busy - diners, a coach party, other normals and a smattering of cranks.

I probably checked you in! DM me your surname and I'll see whether I did (if indeed you had an advance ticket)
 
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