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overthewater

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As stated in the Stagecoach West Scotland Thread, Stagecoach are leaving the area, which means we really should have a new thread for the area:

The last known information was posted here: https://www.dumfriesandgalloway.gov...d-safeguard-services-across-dumfries-galloway

The council has approved recommendations to award contracts through the tendering process, which is in the final stages. Details will be confirmed at the end of that process, in early July. The council is committed to ensuring all school transport routes are operational for the start of the school year in August.

That surly meant the First week in July, Were now heading into the second week, However they did admit the school contracts are going ahead.


The tendering process for home-to-school routes is now complete. Contracts have been awarded and services will begin on the first day of the new school year in August, replacing contracts due to expire at the close of the current academic year.

Local operators A2BeeTravel Ltd, Andersons of Langholm, Brownriggs (Thornhill) Ltd, Houstons Minicoaches, Irene Benson Minibus Hire and Contract Hire, McCalls Coaches and Telfords Coaches, have been awarded long-term contracts of up to seven years, guaranteeing continuity of service. Where no compliant bids were received through the tender process, DGC Buses – the council’s in-house bus service provider – will step in to keep every route running smoothly.

This announcement follows the recent confirmation, from SWestrans and Dumfries and Galloway Council working in partnership, that the wider subsidised local bus network across the region has been secured through the award of 45 long-term contracts. Together, these measures provide the foundations of a more stable and sustainable public transport system that keeps communities connected across Dumfries and Galloway.

So has anyone actually heard if we will get the information tomorrow of sometime this week? https://www.dumfriesandgalloway.gov...ansport/bus-ferry-timetables/changes-services
 
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SO what has happened over a week later and the council seems to have forgotten to tell anyone who or the new services are. What on earth is going on?
 

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The council may be blank, (well current timetables only) but these companies have timetables

https://www.mccallscoaches.com/timetables/
https://telfordscoaches.com/localbusservices/bus-timetables/
https://www.houstonscoaches.co.uk/timetables/

Traveline looks like its been updated
I don't know the area at that detail.
That link for Telford’s is their current timetables and includes routes in Cumberland and the Scottish Borders. It is also out of date as the Harrier is no longer operating as far as I know.
 

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That link for Telford’s is their current timetables and includes routes in Cumberland and the Scottish Borders. It is also out of date as the Harrier is no longer operating as far as I know.
Can't find anything beyond 2023 for the 503 running, the Saturday only 693 between Bellingham and Kielder is also still missing (thankfully now tracks on bustimes). The Houston's link is seemingly just the current timetables too.
 

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It clear as day now the council is running about like a headless chicken as they have still Not said who is actually taking over the council contracts let alone the services Stagecoach are leaving behide.

Infact Stagecoach have highlighted this with a change the No79;

From 9th August there are some changes to journeys in the evening on service 79. Late evening services between Annan and Dumfries will no longer operate.

These evening services are funded by Dumfries & Galloway Council, and from August Stagecoach will no longer be the contracted operator to provide these journeys.

For passengers who use these journeys, please contact Dumfries & Galloway Council for clarification as to the service provision in the evenings that will be in place from 9th August. There is no updated timetable provided by Dumfries & Galloway Council for evening journeys at this stage or confirmation of new operator currently available.

If you look on Bus times the new X74 timetable is there with Extra journeys to and from Glasgow. I didn't release the changes are taking place on A Wednesday..
 

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It clear as day now the council is running about like a headless chicken as they have still Not said who is actually taking over the council contracts let alone the services Stagecoach are leaving behide.

Infact Stagecoach have highlighted this with a change the No79;



If you look on Bus times the new X74 timetable is there with Extra journeys to and from Glasgow. I didn't release the changes are taking place on A Wednesday..
Notices and Proceedings this week showed a number of Dumfries and Galloway’s own routes cancelled from the Thursday. Are the changes starting on Wednesday or Thursday? Anyone know?
 

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Stagecoach have announced their new 79 timetable from the 9th, which is the Saturday. Bustimes shows most of their services ending on Wednesday 6, when the contracts end, and the altered X74 starting on Thursday 7, but Stagecoach haven't announced anything else.
 
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Not knowing very much about Dumfries depot operations. Just looking at the new X74 timetable. I would assume Dumfries will become an outstation to Cumbernauld. My assumption is 3 vehicles need to be based in Dumfries overnight (possibly 4 with one as a spare with Cumbernauld 80 miles away) and 2 vehicles from Cumbernauld to give the 5 vehicles required to operate the full service.

A slightly left field theory all is ran by Dumfries with arrivals into Glasgow at 23:55 & 00:45. Drivers pick up other work until there return in the morning. Dumfries have the drivers and will save on redundancy. Frees up some Glasgow drivers for Citylink work during the day.
 

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I travel on a couple of services in D&G fairly regularly and emailed the council on Monday 21/07 to ask what was going on, this is all they have been able to say less than three weeks before everything is supposed to change:

The timetables for services will be going live in the next week, the new network commences on 7th August 2025, please keep an eye on the Dumgal website for updates https://www.dumfriesandgalloway.gov.uk/roads-transport-parking/public-transport/bus-ferry-timetables

There have been some amendments. Everything is in the process of being finalised and updates will be on the council webpage soon.
So far the council haven't even managed to update their website to say the timetables will change on 07/08.

I did talk to a man in Stranraer who was gathering signatures on a petition about the bus services and he said he had heard that the contracted companies were having trouble recruiting drivers.
 

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So there only going to give the public ONE weeks notice which is against the regulations..(which everyone breaks but the council should be following 21 days Public Notification)

It's turning in to another shambles..
 
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Not knowing very much about Dumfries depot operations. Just looking at the new X74 timetable. I would assume Dumfries will become an outstation to Cumbernauld. My assumption is 3 vehicles need to be based in Dumfries overnight (possibly 4 with one as a spare with Cumbernauld 80 miles away) and 2 vehicles from Cumbernauld to give the 5 vehicles required to operate the full service.

A slightly left field theory all is ran by Dumfries with arrivals into Glasgow at 23:55 & 00:45. Drivers pick up other work until there return in the morning. Dumfries have the drivers and will save on redundancy. Frees up some Glasgow drivers for Citylink work during the day.
New times are brilliant for later night services, Beats nearly £30 sometimes a lot more in a Taxi back to Glasgow from Hamilton after midnight
 

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So there only going to give the public ONE weeks notice which is against the regulations..(which everyone breaks but the council should be following 21 days Public Notification)

It's turning in to another shambles..
Is it not 14 days public notification of changes?
 

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As an aside, one concern I have with these changes is that it will mean a significant increase in cost for many passengers - for instance I recently travelled from Dumfries to Portpatrick and back (all on Stagecoach) for £7.50 because of the day ticket, but presumably this won't be an option with new operators. Single fares for those journeys would have been nearly four times as expensive compared to what I paid...
 

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As an aside, one concern I have with these changes is that it will mean a significant increase in cost for many passengers - for instance I recently travelled from Dumfries to Portpatrick and back (all on Stagecoach) for £7.50 because of the day ticket, but presumably this won't be an option with new operators. Single fares for those journeys would have been nearly four times as expensive compared to what I paid...
The West Scotland Connect Dayrider is good value for a daytripper at the moment. I've done Glasgow-Ayr-Stranraer-Dumfries-Glasgow before, and just recently I did Glasgow-Ayr-Girvan-Newton Stewart-Port William and back. As you say, unless the council arrange some kind of multi-operator ticket I unfortunately see no replacement for that.

I also bet that Stagecoach won't reduce the price of the Dayrider despite it now providing access to a significantly reduced area...
 

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SPT is now advertising the revised 359, which will be operated by DGC Buses. Starting on the Thursday, as previously discussed.
 

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As an aside, one concern I have with these changes is that it will mean a significant increase in cost for many passengers - for instance I recently travelled from Dumfries to Portpatrick and back (all on Stagecoach) for £7.50 because of the day ticket, but presumably this won't be an option with new operators. Single fares for those journeys would have been nearly four times as expensive compared to what I paid...
I thought there was a multi operator ticket, the Dumfries and Galloway discovery ticket, I made use of the ticket a few times when I was visiting family.
 

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As an aside, one concern I have with these changes is that it will mean a significant increase in cost for many passengers - for instance I recently travelled from Dumfries to Portpatrick and back (all on Stagecoach) for £7.50 because of the day ticket, but presumably this won't be an option with new operators. Single fares for those journeys would have been nearly four times as expensive compared to what I paid...
The £7.50 day ticket has always been valid on all operators in D&G. Acceptance is a condition of contract. I cannot see why that would change now.
 

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Huh, I've never heard of it, and there's very little mention online of it. The top result in fact is a 2019 thread from here. Does anyone have a link to any more info?
 

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Also the 520 to Dalmellington has been cut back just to Carsphairn (which is a shame, it's an incredibly scenic route).
I saw that. Never got a chance to travel that one, very sad. The route description still says Dalmellington but no journeys go there. Some other routes look quite severely reduced and some are not yet available.
 

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The 124 no longer has a single journey beyond Eskdalemuir to the Regional Boundary. Does anyone know why it ran beyond Nether Cassock originally?
 

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And here is a summary of who's got what.
 

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They have pushed out a press release, it seems not all of the routes have been covered yet.



Following a rigorous procurement process, 45 long-term contracts – each lasting up to seven years – have been awarded to local operators to deliver the subsidised bus network across the region. The council will also deliver several bus routes in its role as the operator of last resort, where there has been no affordable private operator interest.

The updated network will take effect on 7 August, with adjustments to timings on routes and changes to the operating company in some cases. Passengers are strongly encouraged to review the new timetables prior to travel from 7 August onwards.

Cllr John Campbell, Chair of SWestrans, said:

“We are pleased to publish the new bus timetables in advance of the new bus contracts starting on 7 August. These will help people confidently plan their journeys – whether for commuting, socialising, or accessing vital services – and I urge everyone to check their local timetable online before travelling.
“We appreciate there has been a great deal of uncertainty on the future of the local bus network and hope these new timetables will reassure members of the public that communities will remain connected. We remain fully committed to ensuring a smooth and successful transition, and we look forward to working alongside the operators that will serve our communities over the coming years.
“With 1000 bus stops in the region, new printed timetables may not reach all bus stops in time for the start date, but we’ll make sure they’re in place as soon as possible afterwards.”
Timetables and updated operator information can be viewed at: Get bus and ferry timetables | Dumfries and Galloway Council.

For those without internet access, information will shortly be available via Traveline Scotland on 0141 465 1878. In the meantime, the council’s contact centre can help on 030 33 33 3000. Paper copies of timetables will be available to view at local libraries.

As previously confirmed, all home-to-school transport bus services will operate from the start of the new school term in August.

In addition, SWestrans and the council have been actively working to ensure that as many of the region’s 12 commercially operated bus routes as possible are in place by 7 August, although neither SWestrans nor the council is responsible for the procurement of services on these routes.

The following routes have so far been confirmed:

Service Route Operator Notes
D1 and D2 Locharbriggs and Heathhall to Dumfries Town Centre Houston’s Mini Coaches Merged services
Timetable available online
D3 Georgetown to Dumfries Town Centre DGC Buses Timetable available online
D4 Lochvale to Dumfries Town Centre DGC Buses Timetable available online
D10 and D12 Lochside and Lincluden to Dumfries Town Centre Houston’s Mini Coaches Merged services
Timetable to be confirmed
236 Dumfries to Kirkton to Thornhill DGC Buses Timetable available online
246 Dumfries to Cumnock McCalls Coaches Ltd Timetable to be confirmed
81 and 381 Dumfries to Lockerbie (some services only) Houston’s Mini Coaches Merged services
Timetable available online
An operator has not yet been confirmed for the 501 Dumfries to Kirkcudbright and Castle Douglas services. Discussions are ongoing to confirm an operator for this route.

Due to limited operating capacity across both commercial operators and DGC Buses, the 74 Dumfries to Moffat service will be withdrawn. However, parts of the route will be covered by the introduction of additional X74 journeys and a revised 101 timetable.

Unfortunately, it has been necessary to discontinue two further services, to ensure the delivery of an affordable and sustainable bus network. Due to very low passenger volumes, the 512 Castle Douglas town and the 410/411/412 Stranraer to Glenluce, Knock and Ervie service will be withdrawn from 7 August.

As soon as timetable information for the D10/D12 and 246 services is finalised by the new operators, it will be available on the council’s website, along with the 501 if an operator is identified.

Cllr Stephen Thompson, Leader of Dumfries and Galloway Council, said:

“Reliable, sustainable and efficient public transport is essential for our communities, connecting people for work, education, healthcare and much more. The launch of the new subsidised bus network reflects the shared values of the council and SWestrans and underscores our commitment to supporting the best possible services for all residents.
“The procurement of the subsidised and home-to-school bus networks represents a great deal of work that has resulted in stronger contract arrangements with the operators who provide the backbone of the local bus network in the region. These arrangements have been achieved within the agreed budget, ensuring value for money and sustainability in the local networks.”

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Stagecoach has now made a post on it's Website: Going by the new timetables, it looks like there is NO bus from Moffat to get users into Dumfries before 9am?

Dumfries & Galloway depot closures
25 Jul 2025 to 31 Aug 2025
We regret to announce that our bus depots in Dumfries and Stranraer will permanently close on 6 August 2025.

This decision follows a tender process conducted earlier this year by Dumfries & Galloway Council and SWestrans for bus service contracts due to expire on that date. A number of these contracts are currently operated by Stagecoach West Scotland, and the outcome of the tender has led to the closure of our depots in the region.

From Wednesday 6August 2025, Stagecoach will no longer operate the following services: 

  • D1 Dumfries, Locharbriggs

  • D2 Dumfries, Heathhall

  • D3 Great King Street Dumfries, Georgetown

  • D4 Great King Street Dumfries

  • D5A/C Dumfries, Crichton

  • D7 Dumfries, Troqueer

  • D8 Dumfries, Cargenbridge

  • D9 Dumfries, Summerhill

  • D10 Dumfries, Kenilworth Road

  • D12 Dumfries, Lincluden

  • 74 Dumfries, Moffat

  • 75 Stranraer, Newton Stewart

  • 81 Dumfries, Lockerbie

  • 236 Dumfries, Sanquhar, New Cumnock

  • 246 Dumfries, Sanquhar, New Cumnock

  • 359  Girvan, Newton Stewart 

  • 365  Stranraer Local 

  • 367  Stranraer, Port Patrick 

  • 407  Stranraer, Drummore 

  • 408  Stranraer, Kirkcolm 

  • 415/416  Stranraer, Port William, Newton Stewart 

  • 420  Newton Stewart Town Service 

  • 500 Dumfries, Twynholm, Newton Stewart, Stranraer

  • 501  Dumfries, Castle Douglas 

  • 879  Dumfries, Mouswald 

The following services will continue to operate:

79 Carlisle to Annan

X74 Dumfries, Glasgow

358/360 Stranraer, Ayr 

From Thursday 7 August 2025

X74 service will operate from Cumbernauld depot

79 service will continue to operate from Carlisle depot.

358/360 services, operated under contract from SPT, will run from Ayr depot.

Thank you for your continued support and understanding.

For more information and to find out who'll operate your bus service, please visit swestrans.org.uk.
 
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McCalls Coaches have now provided a new 256 timetable on their Facebook page. In the post, they say that it's not registered yet and they are awaiting a start date depending on whether they can get short notice approval. https://www.facebook.com/mccallscoa...LDVUULKGdvo6PPsALWKkKn4BNNgmi1APVWxpdRBc4gj5l
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In another post, they confirm that they are looking to take on the 501 but it only mentions Dumfries to Dalbeattie on a reduced service and they want to run it with 2 buses max.
 

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I confess that I don't know Dumfries and Galloway very well; I think I've visited just a couple of times and never sampled the local buses. Am I missing something but the changeover is on a Thursday (with depots closing the night before)?

I'd love to know what the liability issue was that Stagecoach wouldn't accept. Anyone know what this was?
 

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Good luck to McCalls carrying out consultation via Facebook. With only two buses available, I suspect a lot of people are going to be disappointed as the present hourly timetable requires three buses and from some of the posts, reliability is not always as it should be.
 

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They have pushed out a press release, it seems not all of the routes have been covered yet.





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Stagecoach has now made a post on its Website: Going by the new timetables, it looks like there is NO bus from Moffat to get users into Dumfries before 9am?
Majority of X74s will still operate from Dumfries depot as an outstation.
 

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