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They are the vehicles removed from the Class 458s being refurbished and reduced to 4-car formation by Alstom at Widnes.
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Small train yard near Stoke-on-Trent
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What's their destiny?
Defiance149
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Removed from the 458s being reduced to four cars at Widnes.
sprinterguy
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As of this evening there's now a short rake of EWS liveried HTA bogie coal hoppers sat behind a GBRf class 66, on the "main line" side of the discarded SWR 458 carriages.
Given the recent end of power station coal flows with GBRf using these wagons, would it be correct to assume that the wagons have been delivered there for disposal?
Given the recent end of power station coal flows with GBRf using these wagons, would it be correct to assume that the wagons have been delivered there for disposal?
Foggycorner
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more likely going to the wagon works the other side of the station to be converted to aggrogates wagons
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I passed there today on a Cross Country train. I counted 12, possibly 13, ex 458 coaches. All were originally from class 460 units.
sprinterguy
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Ah, that's a definite possibility, thanks. It looked to be far enough removed from the running lines to be within the haulage yard rather than just in the loop, but it was just a passing glimpse.
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The whole yard shown on "Trackmaps" as out of use, and as far as I am aware all the other vehicles there have arrived by road - so how much of it is useable from a rail point of view. I must saw that when the schedule appeared I wondered if there had been an error and they were intented for Granville Sidings.
sprinterguy
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And they were still there as of this Thursday. I noted a lot of vegetation clearance work out as far as the pointwork from the sidings going on earlier this year, but latterly put this down to them anticipating needing additional siding space for the large number of 458 trailers now on site.
childwallblues
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There is a small shunter and vans in the yard now.
sprinterguy
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They've been there for a while now, predating the arrival of most of the ex-SWR 458 trailers: The RES liveried full brake, 92347, was until recently in use by Stratford Bike Hire next to Bobby's Cafe at the North end of the Stratford Greenway on the former Stratford - Cheltenham line.
I haven't been able to identify the departmental yellow vehicle.
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ADB975496 (ex Mk1 BSK 34004), previously at the Rushden, Higham & Wellingborough Railway
sprinterguy
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Ah, many thanks for that - I've been wondering for a while.
50002Superb
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Does anyone know the coaches at the Reid Freight Services main yard?
43300 is still in situ, steam locomotive ‘Fenchurch’ and a 153 (I think 365) were both on the low loaders.
43300 is still in situ, steam locomotive ‘Fenchurch’ and a 153 (I think 365) were both on the low loaders.
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Lewisham2221
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Three carriages at this location were damaged by fire over the weekend:
www.bbc.co.uk
If anyone is interested in trying to identify the carriages involved, there's additional photographs on the Staffordshire Fire Service website - https://www.staffordshirefire.gov.u...uish-blaze-inside-derelict-railway-carriages/
BBC News - Stoke-on-Trent firefighters put out derelict rail carriage blaze - BBC News
Stoke-on-Trent firefighters put out derelict rail carriage blaze
Nobody is injured, and an investigation into the cause is ongoing, the fire service says.
www.bbc.co.uk
If anyone is interested in trying to identify the carriages involved, there's additional photographs on the Staffordshire Fire Service website - https://www.staffordshirefire.gov.u...uish-blaze-inside-derelict-railway-carriages/
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Mk.1 26193 and Wagon-Lits sleeper 3801 are the two in the pictures. ID of the third is unclear, the end of Mk.3 42353 is visible in the second photo but half of 483009 was partly behind 26193 so may well be that.
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This photo (https://flic.kr/p/2r2WUnE) shows that there are possibly three other coaches around the Mk1 and sleeper (the FGW Mk3, half of 483009 and another European style coach)
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The other European coach is a DB ambulance coach https://cs.rhrp.org.uk/CarriageSurvey/displaycarriage.php?Ref=2RTW7UN6MHGK3SYFCQV11 Much more recent drone pictures on Facebook have the 483 car as the closest to the two burnt vehicles and 42353 and the ambulance coach alongside each other.
Lewisham2221
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There's been a further fire at this yard. Article is rather vague and refers to "a carriage" but that's about it.
www.stokesentinel.co.uk
Live: Flames grip Stoke-on-Trent railyard for second time in TWO weeks
Just in
www.stokesentinel.co.uk
CR165022
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The carriage in question is one from 769922
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