Greek Street bridge replacement Stockport

[pokemonsuper9]

That’s not an unusual ratio really.

Indeed, the bridges at Hindley and Ince were closed to road traffic for many months, rail traffic was only disrupted for the odd week or so.

 

[edwin_m]

Indeed, the bridges at Hindley and Ince were closed to road traffic for many months, rail traffic was only disrupted for the odd week or so.

The most extreme recent case was probably the sorry saga of the A363 at Bradford on Avon.

A363 Bridge replacement Bradford-on-Avon

Network Rail are holding a public drop in on Monday 11th June 2022 4-6pm at St Margarets Hall, Bradford-on-Avon regarding replacement of A363 Bridge EDIT : adding the Network Rail Presentation Link (full of photos and diagrams so not practical to quote it)...

www.railforums.co.uk

The railway company is due to begin the work on Monday, 5 September 2022 and finish Monday, 3 April 2023 [post 1] ... ... ... ... Open with small strip of road also barriers off [post 155, 18 December 2023].

 

[Nottingham59]

The most extreme recent case was probably the sorry saga of the A363 at Bradford on Avon.

Botley Road in Oxford might be in the running for that accolade

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The month closure ratio of 12 to 1 in the Stockport Greek Street road to rail time closures seems greater than other quoted examples.

 

[The Planner]

The month closure ratio of 12 to 1 in the Stockport Greek Street road to rail time closures seems greater than other quoted examples.

Its not a month for the railway, its 3 weeks.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Its not a month for the railway, its 3 weeks.

I was being kind. The matter of more concern to the bus and car users of Stockport is the twelve month closure of a major road junction at the roundabout.

 

[The Planner]

I was being kind. The matter of more concern to the bus and car users of Stockport is the twelve month closure of a major road junction at the roundabout.

Its been closed for a number of months already, has there been loads of press coverage of it going badly or have locals dealt with it?

 

[CHAPS2034]

Its been closed for a number of months already, has there been loads of press coverage of it going badly or have locals dealt with it?

Being a local, we are dealing with it. The 'carnage and chaos' predicted by some prior to the work starting doesn't seem to have materialised. It was all advertised in advance and received a good amount of press coverage. Some bus times have now been tweaked by a few minutes to take into account the longer journeys round the diversions. After watching numerous motorists ignoring the many road closed signs everywhere in the first few weeks, people now seem to be finding ways round it

The only time I have noticed it causing real problems was when County were at home. Even before the closure though, that area was very busy before and after matches

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Being a local, we are dealing with it. The 'carnage and chaos' predicted by some prior to the work starting doesn't seem to have materialised. It was all advertised in advance and received a good amount of press coverage. Some bus times have now been tweaked by a few minutes to take into account the longer journeys round the diversions. After watching numerous motorists ignoring the many road closed signs everywhere in the first few weeks, people now seem to be finding ways round i

What has been a concern was the diversionary route via Longshut Lane, where the traffic lights at the junction with the A6 could have been amended to allow the traffic using the diversionary route to be given more time.

The bus service 368 that passes through my home town of Heald Green is one of those affected

 

[Rail Ranger]

The October blockade at Stockport for further work on the Greek Street bridge is from 4th to 6th October. Seems to end in the early hours of Monday 6th. Replacement bus times for the weekend are already in the National Rail website journey planner.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The only time I have noticed it causing real problems was when County were at home. Even before the closure though, that area was very busy before and after matches

The 12-month closure period will certainly affect the home fixtures of Stockport County for most of the next season's games.

 

[Ian Hardy]

It could be the fact that the design of Greek Street bridge means that it is not as easy to demolish as the Agar Grove bridge. There probably needed to be some advanced preparation undertaken which required a rail procession. Once that preparation has done the road would have to be closed. The availability of the rail block may mean that the road closure is longer than required at Agar Grove.

 

[jfollows]

Lots of Northern services booked to use Chelford Loop I notice, I’ll be on one of them next week.

 

[The Planner]

Lots of Northern services booked to use Chelford Loop I notice, I’ll be on one of them next week.

Pretty standard for any block north of Stoke.

 

[Oxfordblues]

This thread reminds me of Eddie in "Early Doors" rambling-on inanely about temporary traffic lights on Birdhall Lane:

 

[CJ]

I was on one of the local trains yesterday and we did indeed use the Chelfood Loop (towards Crewe), a CrossCountry train overtook us. Felt like it was about 5-7 mins before we moved.

Same in the opposite direction also (towards Manchester), allowing a CrossCountry train to overtake.

Noticed quite a few trains were delayed by about 10-15 mins around afternoon time, possible in consequence to too many trains occupying the same line and having a knock on effect if one or two are held further up.

There was one TfW train using platform 3 at Wilmslow and starting from there back to South Wales because it was delayed getting towards Manchester.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

There was one TfW train using platform 3 at Wilmslow and starting from there back to South Wales because it was delayed getting towards Manchester.

What arrangements would have been made for passengers booked direct to Manchester on TfW tickets?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

There was one TfW train using platform 3 at Wilmslow and starting from there back to South Wales because it was delayed getting towards Manchester.

What arrangements would have been made for passengers booked direct to Manchester on TfW tickets?

That was possibly the 1547 TfW from Wilmslow to Fishguard. Was 20 minutes late on its inbound journey to Manchester Piccadilly, when cancelled at Wilmslow at around 1509. Several other Avanti/XC/Northern services immediately thereafter. Next TfW service just before 1600.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Today was a mid-day kick-off at Edgeley Park in the Division One local derby between Stockport County and Bolton Wanderers won 2-0 by Stockport.

Normally, this would have seen a good number of Bolton fans travelling by train.

 

[Pete 1981]

Its been closed for a number of months already, has there been loads of press coverage of it going badly or have locals dealt with it?

The latter.

 

[Lewisham2221]

What arrangements would have been made for passengers booked direct to Manchester on TfW tickets?

Usually ticket acceptance Crewe/Manchester with at least one of the other TOCs, normally Northern, sometimes Avanti too.

 

[E B]

There was one TfW train using platform 3 at Wilmslow and starting from there back to South Wales because it was delayed getting towards Manchester.

This is quite common, regardless of the blockade

 

[sjm77]

I have noticed today that Northern are running Oxford Road to Liverpool (via Warrington Central) twice per hour all day just like in the good old days. I presume this is to make up for EMR not running Sheffield-Liverpool

 

[Killingworth]

I have noticed today that Northern are running Oxford Road to Liverpool (via Warrington Central) twice per hour all day just like in the good old days. I presume this is to make up for EMR not running Sheffield-Liverpool

I wonder. Could precedents be being set this month?

 

[Dr Hoo]

I wonder. Could precedents be being set this month?

Presumably Northern have ‘spare’ DMUs and crews who would normally be working Buxton and Chester services via Stockport (that can’t operate because of the Stockport blockade). Not sure that that would be the case in different circumstances.

 

[Killingworth]

Presumably Northern have ‘spare’ DMUs and crews who would normally be working Buxton and Chester services via Stockport (that can’t operate because of the Stockport blockade). Not sure that that would be the case in different circumstances.

Indeed but when, eventually, they get new rolling stock, and GBR has rationalised routes and services who knows!

 

[Rail Ranger]

Also the Piccadilly to Stoke, Alderley Edge and Crewe via Stockport are not running.

 

[sjm77]

Presumably Northern have ‘spare’ DMUs and crews who would normally be working Buxton and Chester services via Stockport (that can’t operate because of the Stockport blockade). Not sure that that would be the case in different circucewqfrqrwtfmstances.

Well additional DMUs are not necessary becuase they could simply use those units allocated to the peak extras all day instead

 

[Baxenden Bank]

As a side issue, RRB's running in place of trains as a result of the Greek Street works, here in Stoke-on-Trent:

A Rail Replacement Coach has broken down across both lanes, blocking Stoke Rd.
The services are diverting via Hanley Litchfield St & Leek Rd in both directions.
No service on Stoke Road at the moment.

 

[M60lad]

Just a correction is that Northern aren't running 2 trains an hour between Manchester Oxford Road and Liverpool Lime Street the other service is run by Trans Pennine Express and only calls at Warrington Central and Liverpool South Parkway these Trans Pennine Express journeys are the ones replacing the East Midlands Railway ones that aren't running during the blockade due to EMR having a lack of route knowledge between Sheffield and Manchester via Marple.