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Advice responding to fare evasion letter

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tannoreth

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I have received a letter from thameslink threatening prosecution due to me travelling without a ticket. It has been extremely upsetting, as I did not mean to! I would really appreciate some advice.

I bought a ticket on the app Trainline when I arrived at King’s Cross. I found the app confusing, as it wouldn’t let me buy a ticket with a QR code like I usually did. I assumed it was the rail companies trying to stop me using the app. I bought a weekly return from London to Cambridge, but for some reason it didn’t let me download the ticket in the app. I therefore went to the ticket desk at King’s Cross and they printed the ticket for me. On the train I was told that the ticket was for the Liverpool Street train and not valid for that service.

I feel very stupid. I remember feeling very confused navigating the Trainline app. When I bought the ticket I was in a huge rush as I had a meeting in Cambridge I didn’t want to miss. I totally forgot that you could buy tickets that were London to Cambridge but not via Kings Cross. I’m a regular commuter on that line, which makes me feel particularly dumb.

Relevant info:

The stations* where you actually started & finished your journey

Start: Kings Cross
End: Cambridge

The stations* where you changed trains (if applicable);
N/A

If you presented a ticket(s), the information* stated under "Ticket type", "From", "To", "Route", and any other relevant details;

Weekly Season
London Terminus to Cambridge
Greater Anglia only

Details of any Railcard(s) held;
N/A

When and where ticket(s) were purchased, including whether this was prior to the journey commencing;

Ticket bought on Monday 24 February on Trainline, collected at Kings Cross ticket office from someone at the ticket desk.

What happened in any encounter with railway staff;

I was asked for my ticket by a ticket inspector on the train. He informed me it wasn’t valid for that train. I explained that I’d got it from the ticket desk at Kings Cross.

This happened in the morning of Wednesday 26th Feb.

Upload copies of any paperwork (with personal details redacted) with your post.

I’ll upload these if people think they are needed.

We need to know what outcome(s) you would consider satisfactory

I don’t mind paying for the proper ticket and a fee, but I really don’t want to go to court.

Ok, so here’s my draft letter:

I am very sorry to have bought the incorrect ticket on the occasion mentioned. I bought my ticket on Trainline for the train from London to Cambridge and I did not realise that the ticket was restricted to trains from Liverpool St. I collected the ticket from the desk at Kings Cross and it let me through the barriers at Kings Cross, therefore it was not until I showed the ticket to the inspector that I realised it was not valid for my train.

Please, would it be possible to pay the correct fare and any additional fees?

I will certainly be more careful in the future to ensure I have the correct ticket for my journey.
 
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Skimpot flyer

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How did you get through the barriers at Kings Cross, with a Greater Anglia Only ticket? I would’ve expected it not to work?
 

Hadders

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Welcome to the forum!

Unfortunately as you now know, your ticket wasn't valid on the service between Kings Cross and Cambridge. Also, for information season tickets are not available as barcoded tickets, they can only be sold as a traditional paper ticket, smartcard or sometimes held in an app. Thsi is because they are available for unlimited journeys and there is a risk that a normal barcode ticket could be distributed to other people resulting in fare evasion and a loss of revenue.

Legally speaking, you've comitted a criminal offence by boarding the train without a valid ticket. GTR could prosecute you in the Magistrates COurt if they wanted to but they will normally offer an out of court settlement to people who engage with them and who haven't come to their attention before.

What happens next is they will write to you threatening prosecution but asking for your version of events before deciding how to proceed. The letter could take several weeks to come as they currently have a large backlog. When it arrives post a redacted copy of it in this thread along with your draft reply and forum members will oproof read it for you.

I would mention the following points in your reply:

- That you are sorry for what has happened
- What you have learned from the incident
- That you are keen to settle the matter without the need for court action
- Offer to pay the outstanding fare and GTR's administrative costs in dealing with the matter

Expect to have to pay the cost of the full Anytime Single fare between Kings Cross and Cambridge plus an admin fee, typically £150. Paying an out of court settlement might feel like paying a fine but technically it isn't a fine - only a court can impose a fine as a punishment upon conviction. You won't have a criminal record as a result of paying an out of court settlement.
 

WesternLancer

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Ok, so here’s my draft letter:

I am very sorry to have bought the incorrect ticket on the occasion mentioned. I bought my ticket on Trainline for the train from London to Cambridge and I did not realise that the ticket was restricted to trains from Liverpool St. I collected the ticket from the desk at Kings Cross and it let me through the barriers at Kings Cross, therefore it was not until I showed the ticket to the inspector that I realised it was not valid for my train.

Please, would it be possible to pay the correct fare and any additional fees?

I will certainly be more careful in the future to ensure I have the correct ticket for my journey.
Re the draft you have posted here:

I would replace ‘desk’ with ‘…from a member of staff at the ticket office at Kings Cross station.’

Also I would add somewhere ‘Please be assured that at no time did I have any intention to evade paying the correct fare’.
 
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pelli

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What happens next is they will write to you threatening prosecution but asking for your version of events before deciding how to proceed. The letter could take several weeks to come as they currently have a large backlog. When it arrives post a redacted copy of it in this thread along with your draft reply and forum members will oproof read it for you.
Note that the letter has already been received,
This happened in the morning of Wednesday 26th Feb.
I have received a letter from thameslink threatening prosecution due to me travelling without a ticket.
and a draft response provided.

To the OP: As you can see from previous threads, Govia Thameslink Railway basically always offers an out-of-court settlement if you cooperate.

If they research your ticket history on Trainline (they usually do for E-tickets, but I'm not sure if they how often they do for printed tickets bought online, and I don't think we've had any case with a printed weekly season bought online before; have they mentioned anything in their letter?), they will presumably see a long list of London to Cambridge tickets (day returns and seasons) all valid for King's Cross, so there shouldn't be anything to worry about. I presume you have not made the exact same mistake before undetected, since you say you usually get the season ticket with a QR code (which Trainline calls "Mobile barcode in-app"), which is not available for the Greater Anglia only ticket. If there are tickets for Liverpool Street in your purchase history, then you might have to prepare to either provide evidence that you didn't use them on King's Cross trains, or have to pay the fare for those instances too as part of the out-of-court settlement.

I think your response looks fine and covers the points in Hadders's tried-and-tested formula, and you shouldn't worry about needing to polish it to perfection. WesternLancer's suggestions look good, and further you might consider changing the second sentence to 'I bought my season ticket on Trainline for London Terminals to Cambridge and didn't notice that it was "Greater Anglia only", so not valid at King's Cross.' Although the investigator should have this information available already, it might remind them that you did not select a train from Liverpool Street when purchasing, and your ticket did not say Liverpool Street on it.

If you have the time, you could wait a bit longer for other forum members to give their opinion too though.
 

MarlowDonkey

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, and further you might consider changing the second sentence to 'I bought my season ticket on Trainline for London Terminals to Cambridge and didn't notice that it was "Greater Anglia only", so not valid at King's Cross.
The wording on the tickets is deceptive. London Terminals means both Kings Cross and Liverpool Street in the context of Cambridge, but Greater Anglia only impliies Liverpool Street only without saying that explicitly as they don't operate trains to Kings Cross.

On the other side of London, tickets which are effectively Chiltern only south of Banbury just say via High Wycombe.
 

Haywain

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Excuse my naïveté but couldn’t a Change of Route Excess have been charged here, or am I misunderstanding and excesses have to be obtained before boarding?
An operator only restriction ("Greater Anglia only") cannot be removed by an excess fare. Also, season tickets cannot be excessed, so this one fails on two counts!
 
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