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I’ve just finished a trip of the UK traveling on a UK England Rail pass (First Class, 4 days in a month). Here, hopefully useful to others is my experience
The Rail Pass at least in my region can only be obtained through ACP International. Their customer service is pretty good and friendly. The only problem is paying them. Getting the site to accept credit cards is the challenge. While they suggest the normal solutions, clear cookies, try a different browser etc. they also advised this
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I tried more than one card, from two banks (one in the US one in my country of residence, Colombia) and both were declined. I did call the banks and they could not see the declinations. Eventually the security department of the Colombian bank called several hours later and asked if I had tried to make a payment. He then cleared the payment. It does suggest as if their banking structure, no doubt for tax purposes, loses them business.
Given the payments issue I did not make seat reservations, a service they offer, as I didn’t want to deal with declined cards again. They actually suggest that you leave reservations until you arrive in the UK.
I used the electronic M-pass option and I had no issues with getting through gates. One ticket inspector on Grand Central(Kings Cross - Hartlepool) didn’t scan it as ‘it would make a ‘strange noise’. The tickets, with my plan you download a ticket for each chosen day, worked fine. However they don’t load to Apple Wallet. I left mine in my email and the attachment opened up fine for scanning.
On another train, GWR Torquay to Dorchester West, changing at Castle Cary. There are no gate lines at Torquay so my ticket was not scanned there. As we neared Castle Cary over an hour later, no ticket inspector. I asked a member of staff about scanning my ticket and he said that the ticket inspector was further down the train and would not scan my ticket before we arrived.
My concern was that in not having my ticket scanned GWR would not get any revenue share for the day. With a layover at Castle Combe I spoke to a member of staff there who seemed to have an excellent knowledge of ticketing. He explained the flaw in my thinking. Where you travel and on which train company doesn’t matter. The revenue from the ticket is split across train companies on an agreed basis. You could spend the entire ticket validity on GWR and LNER would still get a portion. Perhaps that works, but I’m a little surprised that with electronic ticket checking that it is not more sophisticated.
In terms of value obviously it is a great was to see the UK. I paid $349 for the four day England flexi pass in First Class on the senior rate. Given that one of my journeys was from Hartlepool to Torquay (Grand Central to KC, GWR from Paddington, rather than having to use Cross Country) that probably paid for most of the ticket. These days, with crowded trains even in First (the GC to Hartlepool was full) the idea of just getting on any train you want, to wherever you wanted go isn’t without potential problems.
i also bought their $25 Safeguard plan which was vague in terms of what it covered prior to purchasing and not much better afterwards.
On my trip no check was made of my eligibility for the Senior discount and nor that I was an overseas resident - I am UK born now living in Colombia. Proving that you are resident abroad and meet the ticket requirements is more difficult these days. I have a UK passport and that is not stamped on entry and departure from the UK anymore.
Would I buy a UK rail pass again? Yes, but the payment issue suggests making sure that you can get the pass, before commiting to other plans.
The Rail Pass at least in my region can only be obtained through ACP International. Their customer service is pretty good and friendly. The only problem is paying them. Getting the site to accept credit cards is the challenge. While they suggest the normal solutions, clear cookies, try a different browser etc. they also advised this
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There are a few reasons why payments are not successful through our website because our bank where the payments are processed is located in Dublin, Ireland and some credit card companies may block this transaction due to fraud protection as this payment from an overseas bank has not been authorized by the cardholder. This can easily be fixed by notifying your credit card company and letting them know you are trying to make a payment to "ACP Rail International" for the total amount of your purchase and that our bank is located in Dublin
I tried more than one card, from two banks (one in the US one in my country of residence, Colombia) and both were declined. I did call the banks and they could not see the declinations. Eventually the security department of the Colombian bank called several hours later and asked if I had tried to make a payment. He then cleared the payment. It does suggest as if their banking structure, no doubt for tax purposes, loses them business.
Given the payments issue I did not make seat reservations, a service they offer, as I didn’t want to deal with declined cards again. They actually suggest that you leave reservations until you arrive in the UK.
I used the electronic M-pass option and I had no issues with getting through gates. One ticket inspector on Grand Central(Kings Cross - Hartlepool) didn’t scan it as ‘it would make a ‘strange noise’. The tickets, with my plan you download a ticket for each chosen day, worked fine. However they don’t load to Apple Wallet. I left mine in my email and the attachment opened up fine for scanning.
On another train, GWR Torquay to Dorchester West, changing at Castle Cary. There are no gate lines at Torquay so my ticket was not scanned there. As we neared Castle Cary over an hour later, no ticket inspector. I asked a member of staff about scanning my ticket and he said that the ticket inspector was further down the train and would not scan my ticket before we arrived.
My concern was that in not having my ticket scanned GWR would not get any revenue share for the day. With a layover at Castle Combe I spoke to a member of staff there who seemed to have an excellent knowledge of ticketing. He explained the flaw in my thinking. Where you travel and on which train company doesn’t matter. The revenue from the ticket is split across train companies on an agreed basis. You could spend the entire ticket validity on GWR and LNER would still get a portion. Perhaps that works, but I’m a little surprised that with electronic ticket checking that it is not more sophisticated.
In terms of value obviously it is a great was to see the UK. I paid $349 for the four day England flexi pass in First Class on the senior rate. Given that one of my journeys was from Hartlepool to Torquay (Grand Central to KC, GWR from Paddington, rather than having to use Cross Country) that probably paid for most of the ticket. These days, with crowded trains even in First (the GC to Hartlepool was full) the idea of just getting on any train you want, to wherever you wanted go isn’t without potential problems.
i also bought their $25 Safeguard plan which was vague in terms of what it covered prior to purchasing and not much better afterwards.
On my trip no check was made of my eligibility for the Senior discount and nor that I was an overseas resident - I am UK born now living in Colombia. Proving that you are resident abroad and meet the ticket requirements is more difficult these days. I have a UK passport and that is not stamped on entry and departure from the UK anymore.
Would I buy a UK rail pass again? Yes, but the payment issue suggests making sure that you can get the pass, before commiting to other plans.
