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Thoughts on the Trump presidency

brad465

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Indeed. The Dow Jones isn't going to keep growing without investment bankers and stockbrokers.
Thinking about it the cocaine cartels usually try and disguise their cargo in banana crates. If the tariffs impact bananas then unless the smugglers can find alternative storage means without getting caught, inflation really will hit the street.
 
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I do wish people would stop saying they won't be an election in the US in 2028 because that is extremely unlikely because elections for mayors and Governors are going to be taking place as usual plus the Senate and House midterms.
 

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I do wish people would stop saying they won't be an election in the US in 2028 because that is extremely unlikely because elections for mayors and Governors are going to be taking place as usual plus the Senate and House midterms.
While I agree that it's unlikely that the MAGA nuts will be able to prevent the 2028 presidential elections from happening I'm not confident enough to say that it's impossible.

I can see scenarios under which an imagined emergency causes the Executive to suspend the constitution, and I don't trust either the legislative or judical branch to step in.
 

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Right.

I was going to put a temporary pause on this thread tonight due to the outbreak of arguments about Trump’s decisions/declarations on transgender issues but it seems like things have calmed down now. However I am going to say this, rather than contacting people separately.

There are some issues that can end up being so heated that they draw all of the limited staff resources into dealing with them if we’re not careful and unfortunately this is one of those discussions that can end up becoming that way if we’re not careful…

We are, at the end of the day, a railway and transport discussion forum and we just don’t have the spare capacity to moderate debates on every single wider issue that’s taking place in the world currently.

The general discussion area on this forum has only ever been an add on to what we’re actually here for and there are more specialised forums for discussing these kinds of topics than on here. So for the sake of pragmatism and to keep things polite and constructive, I’d suggest that we leave that there and move on with the conversation.

No doubt there’ll be a new thing to get exercised over tomorrow anyway!

Thanks. ;)
 

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As I see it, the American public voted Trump into office, probably on a wave of misinformation or sensationalist social media postings. They've made their beds etc...

On a worldwide scale it seems clear that other political leaders may not share his views or opinions on various matters. It also begs the question how much outside sources or individuals have had an influence on the election process.

We've already seen threats made against neighbouring or friendly countries, against government departments and to the rights of many people. Time will tell whether he is the right person to lead a country.
 

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We've already seen threats made against neighbouring or friendly countries, against government departments and to the rights of many people. Time will tell whether he is the right person to lead a country.
Saw the original, didn't like it. The sequel isn't shaping up to be any better.
 

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Thinking about it the cocaine cartels usually try and disguise their cargo in banana crates. If the tariffs impact bananas then unless the smugglers can find alternative storage means without getting caught, inflation really will hit the street.
Seems Columbia has now agreed to accept the repatriation flights and the threat of sanctions is lifted. So the cartels can get on with packing their bananas.
 

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Seems Columbia has now agreed to accept the repatriation flights and the threat of sanctions is lifted. So the cartels can get on with packing their bananas.
I'd be interested to understand what message was given to the government of Columbia, it's entirely possible they just turned down two unexpected military aircraft because the proper procedure hadn't been given. Particular given the claims of 'taking back' territory from their neighbours in Panama.
 
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Saw the original, didn't like it. The sequel isn't shaping up to be any better.
I quite agree.
Time's already told a pretty vivid and odorous tale, don't you think?
Absolutely. The first time round showed his intentions. Now, the reality is occurring. Spurred on by right wing fanaticism that fails to differentiate between right and wrong.
 

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Yesterday Nvidia suffered a significant market devaluation after the Chinese AI rival DeepSeek emerged, which given its significance, Trump has weighed in on:


US President Donald Trump has called the rise of Chinese company DeepSeek "a wake-up call" for the US tech industry, after the emergence of its artificial intelligence (AI) model triggered shockwaves on Wall Street.
Shares in major tech firms such as Nvidia fell sharply, with the chip giant losing almost $600bn (£482bn) in market value.
What has shaken the industry is DeepSeek's claim that its R1 model was made at a fraction of the cost of its rivals - raising questions about the future of America's AI dominance and the scale of investments US firms are planning.
DeepSeek has become the most downloaded free app in the US just a week after it was launched.
Responding to the news, Trump said the latest developments in China's AI industry may be "a positive" for the US.
"If you could do it cheaper, if you could do it [for] less [and] get to the same end result. I think that's a good thing for us," he told reporters on board Air Force One.
He also said he was not concerned about the breakthrough, adding the US will remain a dominant player in the field.
However, DeepSeek has raised cyber security concerns in some countries with Australian science minister Ed Husic urging caution.
He told Australia's national broadcaster ABC: "There are a lot of questions that will need to be answered in time on quality, consumer preferences, data and privacy management."
DeepSeek is powered by the open source DeepSeek-V3 model, which its researchers claim was trained for around $6m (£4.2m) - significantly less than the billions spent by rivals. But this claim has been disputed by others in AI.
Its emergence comes as the US is restricting the sale of the advanced chip technology that powers AI to China.
To continue their work without steady supplies of imported advanced chips, Chinese AI developers have shared their work with each other and experimented with new approaches to the technology.
This has resulted in AI models that require far less computing power than before.
It also means that they cost a lot less than previously thought possible, which has the potential to upend the industry.
Following the shock to markets in the US on Monday, the FTSE 100 stock index of the UK's biggest publicly-listed companies appeared resilient in early trading on Tuesday, rising by 0.46%.
Futures on the tech-heavy Nasdaq index were also up by 0.1% after Nvidia stock had ticked up slightly in after-hours trading.
But shares in Japanese AI-related firms including Advantest, Softbank and Tokyo Electron fell sharply, helping to push the benchmark Nikkei 225 down by 1.4%.
Several other markets in Asia are closed for the Lunar New Year holiday. Mainland China's financial markets will be shut from Tuesday and will reopen on 5 February.

Whatever one thinks of Chinese apps/companies, this will no doubt in my mind highlight once again the hypocrisy shown by so-called free market lovers. As soon as a rival comes in that is a threat to their business, steps are taken to eliminate the competition, either by banning or buying up the rivals. This was one of the suspected motives behind all the TikTok drama.
 

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I can only hope that X and Tesla values drop accordingly too. Elon's wealth is tied to ridiculous over valuations based on lies - much of it now around AI (and robotics etc) - which has now taken a huge dent.
 

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Whatever one thinks of Chinese apps/companies, this will no doubt in my mind highlight once again the hypocrisy shown by so-called free market lovers. As soon as a rival comes in that is a threat to their business, steps are taken to eliminate the competition, either by banning or buying up the rivals. This was one of the suspected motives behind all the TikTok drama.
Ask DeepSeek about Tiananmen Square and see if it's a free market.
 

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A lot of AI is deeply flawed and will be for some time. But there's a lot of money to made hyping it up, with investors keen to throw money for quick returns (a lot through ignorance, none more so than Trump almost certainly not understanding it any more than he 'gets' crypto) and a lot because if you don't get onboard with AI then you'll stand out - not in a good way.

There are some real uses for AI that shows promise but a lot of it is bad, and open to abuse which makes it dangerous.

Trump would be better advised to keep an eye on things with a view to regulation but he's not into regulation so it makes things even more worrying. Indeed, the bad aspects of AI will be what he likes most.
 

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Oh I don't doubt this Chinese version is deeply flawed, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of certain entities in all this.
Is it hypocritical?
How many western tech companies have unfettered access to the Chinese market, like TickTock and now DeepSeek have to the Western market?
 

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Oh I don't doubt this Chinese version is deeply flawed, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of certain entities in all this.
I read a summary of their approach and it does appear to be genuinely innovative. What's more, they're using an open source strategy so if there's fakery going on it will be discovered reasonably quickly.

This may turn out to be a case of export embargoes coming back to bite, since they had to try to find a way around the limits on GPU availability.
 

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I wondered how Trump would make politics and expand culture wars out of the tragic crash of a military helicopter and an airliner on the approach to Washington National airport. The angle is now disgustingly clear:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy7kxx74yxlt

Trump blames diversity hiring in air traffic control - published at 16:41​

16:41​


Bernd Debusmann Jr
Reporting from the White House
A major theme of President Trump's comments during this news briefing is one that has become a significant feature of his administration so far: the fight against diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI programmes.

Trump has now - explicitly - blamed his predecessors in the Biden administration - particularly former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg - for allegedly hiring people with disabilities and psychological issues for air traffic controller positions.

He hasn't provided any evidence to support his claims. The Federal Aviation Administration is a large organisation with 35,000 employees - a fraction of whom are air traffic controllers.

"I don't think so," Trump says, remarking on whether he believes those hired in Buttigieg's time were qualified to safely control air traffic.

The FAA, he claims, was "ran into the ground" by DEI hires after it was determined that the agency was "too white".
 

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I've just watched the White House press conference.

What a remarkable event that was, with the President's sentiments totally echoed by the Sec of Defense, Sec of Transportation and the Vice-President.

Really shocked at the whole thing...
 

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He's got himself in a bad position. Cuts, sackings, whatever in airline safety staff leaver you - as it would any leader - at the mercy of nothing going wrong in the immediate aftermath, whether it can be blamed on the cuts or not.

He took a chance, now he's squirming.
 

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From the BBC live text feed (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy7kxx74yxlt):
A reporter puts it to Trump that he has said a couple of things during today's press briefing, including that he wasn't sure the air traffic controllers made any mistakes and suggested the helicopter pilots did.

Trump acknowledges the remark but adds "it's all under investigation".

The reporter then asks the president how he can claim at this moment that diversity hiring policies had something to do with this crash.

"Because I have common sense, and unfortunately a lot of people don't," Trump says.
What a disgusting, vile piece of gaslighting, let alone the needless speculation. My thoughts and prayers to those who are having to deal with this selfish intrusion into their grief and shock.

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His self-belief or self-delusion is so great that he just won’t see it.
As he continues to be utterly unfiltered and free of remorse for any utterance, I assume that his immediate team are there only to praise the emperors new clothes.
 

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Ask DeepSeek about Tiananmen Square and see if it's a free market.
And ask Chat GPT about the US blowing up Iran Air flight 655.
I wondered how Trump would make politics and expand culture wars out of the tragic crash of a military helicopter and an airliner on the approach to Washington National airport. The angle is now disgustingly clear:
Inevitable.

Of course the inquiry, in a few years, will no doubt discover that it was an idiot in the US military doing something they shouldn’t have been doing. And, also of course, there will be no consequences to the military, just as there wasn’t when they killed 20 people in an Italian cable car.
 

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Of course the inquiry, in a few years, will no doubt discover that it was an idiot in the US military doing something they shouldn’t have been doing.
I wouldn't be so quick to apportion blame to someone not following procedures. Apparently the southbound departure from the military base, across the approach for runway 33 is a long-standing arrangement.
 

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I have no words. Well, I do but they wouldn't be appropriate for the forum.

Times Radio has a video of Trump's response to the recent air crash on its YouTube channel (link below). It's long-winded and rambling, but essentially he's taking a swipe at the Federal Aviation Authority and its "diversity" policies.

To politicise a tragedy like this is utterly shameful.
 
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What’s really scary is all his MAGA acolytes on social media happily believing every word. Trump knows the cause. He wouldn’t speculate. He has spoken to the chief investigator and he KNOWS. Truly terrifying
 

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Trump knows the cause. He wouldn’t speculate. He has spoken to the chief investigator and he KNOWS.
I'd say at this point that we have a most likely cause, but it's too early to say that the definite cause is known.
 

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