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Transport for Wales - Trainee Train Drivers

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I know a few drivers and have been told multiple things - "we are way over subscribed with drivers so won't be a course next year" "they are cutting the course numbers down from 8 to 4" "they will be running a max of two courses next year" "they are going to focus on tfw employees first" also been told 5 different months that the first course will start on. So in other words, I haven't got a clue
 
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Anyone heard anything from Cardiff at all? Been in the pool almost a year now
Nothing at the moment. Im the same, been in the talent pool since December 23 (when I did the paper tests). Emailing every few months for updates. Fingers crossed we get some news in the new year.
 

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Nothing at the moment. Im the same, been in the talent pool since December 23 (when I did the paper tests). Emailing every few months for updates. Fingers crossed we get some news in the new year.

All they seem to be taking on is qualified drivers now, so not sure why they put so many trainees into the talent pool!
 

LoftyTD

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All they seem to be taking on is qualified drivers now, so not sure why they put so many trainees into the talent pool!
I think the pay increase has caused retirement-bound drivers to stay on, and im sure someone told me not long ago they have still been interviewing in Cardiff up until atleast a few months ago, if that is true it makes me question whether they have a bigger plan and know something we dont.
 

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Word from a friend that works there, most depots are either at capacity or have a backlog of trainees. Most courses next year are cancelled.
 

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What’s the medical for then with medigold? Testing for recreational stuff and general well being is it
 

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There is an article in modern railways this month which says that there are enough drivers at the moment at TfW.
Surplus of drivers thanks to low attrition is the headline.
Im not sure what that will mean for people in talent pools though.
 

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LoftyTD

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Seems like Cardiff have over recruited? I’m in the same boat, waiting for Cardiff. I’ve sent two emails over the last 3 weeks just to chase, not had a reply.
Yeah I think so, pay increase has led to more senior employees not retiring. Ive not been getting much response either.
I just can’t see them investing in all the tests and interviews and then letting 50 people drop out of the talent pool. Fingers crossed we hear something soon mate.
 

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Yeah I think so, pay increase has led to more senior employees not retiring. Ive not been getting much response either.
I just can’t see them investing in all the tests and interviews and then letting 50 people drop out of the talent pool. Fingers crossed we hear something soon mate.
The cost is neither here nor there for TfW. It's a sunk cost regardless - everyone could fail the driver interview or medical and they still paid for testing (which is done in house anyway).

Unfortunately, pretty much all depots are oversubscribed and there is a wait time that wasn't expected 2 years ago. Highly unlikely they will change their policy on the 2 years since testing stipulation, despite industry standard being 5 years.
 

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The cost is neither here nor there for TfW. It's a sunk cost regardless - everyone could fail the driver interview or medical and they still paid for testing (which is done in house anyway).

Unfortunately, pretty much all depots are oversubscribed and there is a wait time that wasn't expected 2 years ago. Highly unlikely they will change their policy on the 2 years since testing stipulation, despite industry standard being 5 years.
It has already been extended to 3 years
 

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Yeah I think so, pay increase has led to more senior employees not retiring. Ive not been getting much response either.
I just can’t see them investing in all the tests and interviews and then letting 50 people drop out of the talent pool. Fingers crossed we hear something soon mate.

The cost is neither here nor there for TfW. It's a sunk cost regardless - everyone could fail the driver interview or medical and they still paid for testing (which is done in house anyway).

Unfortunately, pretty much all depots are oversubscribed and there is a wait time that wasn't expected 2 years ago.
Part of the issue as well is the scaling back of the timetable plans. Fewer trains are being run in 2025 than was originally planned a few years ago, and fewer trains means fewer drivers.

That said, I would be surprised if there isn't some degree of movement in the talent pools later this year. Some drivers may have postponed their retirement plans to make the most of the pay deal, but they'll still want to go eventually and will need replacing.
 

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Another email to say all 2025 courses filled for Cardiff. They’ll be in touch when more courses become available in 2026. Has anyone managed to get actually get on one of these 2025 courses? That will be at least a 2 year delay for me so I’m beginning to resign myself to it never happening. Thankfully I’m already in a fairly well paid (albeit miserable!) job!
 

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Another email to say all 2025 courses filled for Cardiff. They’ll be in touch when more courses become available in 2026. Has anyone managed to get actually get on one of these 2025 courses? That will be at least a 2 year delay for me so I’m beginning to resign myself to it never happening. Thankfully I’m already in a fairly well paid (albeit miserable!) job!
Just had the same
 

LoftyTD

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Ive also had the same. So disappointed. I have enquired on how long I can stay in the talent pool as I'm pretty sure mine runs out this December.
 

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Another email to say all 2025 courses filled for Cardiff. They’ll be in touch when more courses become available in 2026. Has anyone managed to get actually get on one of these 2025 courses? That will be at least a 2 year delay for me so I’m beginning to resign myself to it never happening. Thankfully I’m already in a fairly well paid (albeit miserable!) job!

Just had the same email too, unless the time in the talent pool is extended again then it’s unlikely any of us will end up on a course in my opinion. I for one will only have a few months into 2026 until my time in the talent pool expires. I don’t know why they have recruited for trainees when all they have done is taken on qualified drivers to the point they’ve got far too many.
 

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