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TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc
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Thats good as im planning on catching that one later. As much as I like the 197s i dont fancy being crammed into a 2 car for a booked 5 car service!
LNW-GW Joint
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Appears to have been cancelled at Gaerwen with a brake fault.
1Z91 started from Chester, presumably a unit.
Realtime Trains | 1Z91 0716 Chester to Cardiff Central | 06/12/2024
Real-time train running information for 1Z91 0716 departure from Chester to Cardiff Central on 06/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Avanti's 1R25 also started from Chester after running ECS from Holyhead - maybe affected by the 1V91 failure.
37052 xb mr
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67006 & 67017 change over at Canton
Both cancelled 006 back to Cardiff
Looks like 017 is going to rescue
67013 set 4
Both cancelled 006 back to Cardiff
Looks like 017 is going to rescue
67013 set 4
Diagrams seem to slightly change and with the extras as mentioned by @BillStampy.
Mon-Fri
1
05:27 Holyhead to Cardiff
10:53 Cardiff to Manchester
14:30 Manchester to Cardiff
18:53 Cardiff to Manchester
2
04:33 Cardiff to Manchester
08:30 Manchester to Cardiff
12:53 Cardiff to Manchester
16:30 Manchester to Swansea
ECS to Canton
3
ECS to Swansea
05:43 Swansea to Manchester
10:30 Manchester to Cardiff
17:22 Cardiff to Holyhead
4
05:13 Crewe to Cardiff
08:53 Cardiff to Manchester
12:30 Manchester to Cardiff
16:53 Cardiff to Manchester
ECS to Crewe
5
ECS to Manchester
06:27 Manchester to Cardiff
14:50 Cardiff to Manchester
18:30 Manchester to Cardiff
Saturday
1
ECS to Manchester
06:27 Manchester to Cardiff
10:53 Cardiff to Manchester
14:30 Manchester to Cardiff
18:53 Cardiff to Manchester
2
04:35 Cardiff to Manchester
08:30 Manchester to Cardiff
12:53 Cardiff to Manchester
16:30 Manchester to Swansea
ECS to Canton
3
ECS to Swansea
05:39 Swansea to Manchester
10:30 Manchester to Swansea
16:53 Swansea to Manchester
ECS to Crewe
4
05:12 Crewe to Cardiff
14:53 Cardiff to Manchester
18:30 Manchester to Cardiff
Sunday
Same as now
37052 xb mr
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1W57 is 197051
Change of plan for a few sets now due to HD04s issues.
The 3 sets remaining out will remain on their booked diagrams all day with the remainder of the Holyhead start diagram being 197s all day.
HD04 will remain in Holyhead over the weekend after and is planned to run ecs to Crewe on Monday. This leaves only 3 sets for tomorrow with HD01 and HD06 on Cardiff starts and HD02 on the 06:27 from Manchester, the 04:54 Crewe to Cardiff and rest of that diagram will be units.
Sunday will then see HD01 on the Crewe diagram and HD02 on the Cardiff.
Obviously that's all if nothing else goes wrong!!
D6130
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Have you seen tomorrow's weather forecast for that part of the world? 
Welshguy1048
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HD03+67016 are planned.
Welshguy1048
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37052 xb mr
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Thanks
BillStampy
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Does anyone know the status on HD05 right now? Last time I checked it was on the wheel lathe still, any time of it returning yet?
Finished on the lathe/wheel replacement and now on a minor exam still at Crewe ETD. Would expect it back early next week.
BillStampy
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Brilliant, thanks as always.
37052 xb mr
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Is the plan definitely for 5 sets Mon - Fri ?
Still the plan now. We've been here before and it's been knocked out last minute but hopefully this time it will happen!
All diagrams are now suspended today with everything until further notice turning at Crewe on the Manchester route.
37052 xb mr
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Thanks
No Mk4s again today due to multiple line blockages. Tomorrow loses half a diagram due to set displacement causing a delayed exam on HD06, it's clear for 1 run only so will do the 16:49 Cardiff to Manchester then stop for a minor exam at Crewe when it arrives with the rest of that diagram unit operated.
HD01 on the Cardiff start, HD02 on the Crewe start and HD03 on the Holyhead start are planned on full diagrams (line openings permitted)
67017 will run light to Holyhead to collect HD04+67013 and run ecs to Crewe and HD07 will be the load for a test run, yet another one for 67025s sander issues from Crewe to Shrewsbury and back.
HD01 on the Cardiff start, HD02 on the Crewe start and HD03 on the Holyhead start are planned on full diagrams (line openings permitted)
67017 will run light to Holyhead to collect HD04+67013 and run ecs to Crewe and HD07 will be the load for a test run, yet another one for 67025s sander issues from Crewe to Shrewsbury and back.
37052 xb mr
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Thanks
37052 xb mr
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Both tomorrows Crewe starters currently showing as 197s
Topological
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A little disappointing since things were looking so positive last week.
The joy of getting an advance first for cheaper than an advance single on the 08:49 tomorrow seems to have been somewhat short-lived. Since that is the same diagram as the 16:49 it means RTT is probably right showing 197122. I better bring my coffee in a flask like normal.
This is of course all subject to trains actually running.
37052 xb mr
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RTT will always show what’s on the
diagram in full, once its 1st allocated
Regardless of any changes planned tomorrow, 1V31, 1W55 & 1V42 are planned the 197, then 1W23
Should become 67015 set HD06
Which won’t show till later tomorrow
Topological
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Thanks
RTT also has 1W19 as a 197. Presumably that means a decision has been taken for that diagram too.
None of the other services currently showing as allocated anything.
Of course, there is still no knowing that there are actually trains tomorrow yet.
Things have slipped back with regards to fully opening the routes compared to where they were expected so none of the diagrams have started out this morning. Hopefully as and when things return back to normal they'll get out but not guaranteed at this stage.
All Mk4s now suspended for the remainder of today too including stock moves.
*IF* things open and are back to normal tomorrow should have:
HD01 1W11 1V37 1W23
HD03 1V91 1W19 1V50
HD04 ECS to Crewe 67017+67013 d.i.t
HD06 1W57 1V46 1W65
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Welshguy1048
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37052 xb mr
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Thanks
37052 xb mr
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The other loco & set will be
Shut down