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TPE Nova 3 (Class 68 + Mk5s) updates and withdrawal from service

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We're the cracks not identical to the CAF class 19X and Hitachi IET's and just require an extra plate on the T-bar where the yaw dampers and alike attach to the solebar area?
Unsure. I have only limited knowledge myself…

But I did read that the safety concerns surrounding those cracks were a reason in their withdrawal from service.
How much of a reason though, I have no idea. But if it’s such a deciding factor for TPE, then it begs the question of how much work needs to be done… given that IETs were back out in a matter of day/weeks, it would suggest the issue is slightly more severe.
 
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I can't immagine bio fuels requiring too much work for conversion. The question is what's more cost effective, vinyl to Chiltern livery all the Former TPE locos or convert the current Chiltern locos to be MK5 compatible and only re-Vinyl the former TP locos that are actually required.

We're the cracks not identical to the CAF class 19X and Hitachi IET's and just require an extra plate on the T-bar where the yaw dampers and alike attach to the solebar area?
Factor in some ex TPE 68s would still need re-vinyling if Chiltern take on all 13 sets of Mk5s.

Also the biofuel experiment might benefit being continued on 68s in freight service (although the relevant 68s would have to be kept on services captive to a particular fuelling point).

I wonder if some of the severity of the TPE Mk5 cracking problem can be put down to TPE not wanting the Mk5s. How much of an issue was/is cracking on the Caledonian Sleeper Mk5s ?.
 

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I should imagine the ex Transpennie locos class 68 at Long Marston x6 , due to being compatible with mk5, will be used in service with the mk5 if and when to Chiltern,

Due to Compatibility as a op mentioned above, its highly likely the ex 68s from Tpex will work with mk5, like before, Dft most likely keen to keep costs down,

Chiltern 68s uses for mk3 are not compatible for M5, anyway, Also as Drs have a few more freight flows anyway ie Tesco for example, and to replace some 37s and 57s now gone, for freight the ex Chiltern silver set mk3 class 68s used on these would be great.
For extra loco capacity to Drs.
 

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But that would mean Chiltern may lose their biofuel locos, which whilst not overly important in terms of providing service, is disheartening considering the push towards green initiatives.

I understand the 68s required no modification work to run on biofuel, which would tally with most diesel road vehicles that use it. On the same basis I expect the only change would be to the maintenance, which is probably mostly more frequent attention to the filters.
 

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I would be good if LSL pick up the Chiltern plug doors when they've finished with them
 

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I understand the 68s required no modification work to run on biofuel, which would tally with most diesel road vehicles that use it. On the same basis I expect the only change would be to the maintenance, which is probably mostly more frequent attention to the filters.
That’s inline with my assumption, but I’m no expert; so didn’t want to look naive!
But it’s certainly reassuring to know and at least makes being somewhat greener, slightly easier.
 

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I understand the 68s required no modification work to run on biofuel, which would tally with most diesel road vehicles that use it. On the same basis I expect the only change would be to the maintenance, which is probably mostly more frequent attention to the filters.
Correct, and they can be fueled with regular diesel too.
 

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Debranded set in Wolverton works next to Lidl today, not sure if its a internal move or waiting to be collected.
Set TP01 must have been debranded on site at Wolverton, unlike the others , being done at, Long Marston, maybe TP01 has had all handback work done to it at Wolverton
Also it's possible TP01, might go, straight to Long Marston for Storage from Wolverton. Rather than going back to Longsight for final handback checks ??.

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Monday 02nd December 2024.
5Q70 1045 Long Marston to Wolverton Centre Sidings
37611 with set TP10 unbranded,
If to Wolverton looking like a future ahead.
However set TP10 unbranded at Wolverton Centre Sidings.

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Witnessed through Barnt Green.

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Ie going to Wolverton so looking like it has a new Future.
So currently we have
Wolverton TP01 TP10 unbranded.
Longsight TP04 TP06 Unbranded.
Long Marston 12802 DT
Long Marston TP02, TP03, TP05 ,TP07, TP08 TP09,TP11, TP12, TP13,

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All at Long Marston are also unbranded.
 
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Noted 68029 at LO yesterday pm coupled to a TPE set which has apparently today gone to Long Marston. Unattached 68 and separate TP set round back of LO depot as well.
 

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Tuesday 03rd December 2024
5Q94 0855 Longsight Tmd to Long Marston
68029 with Unbranded set TP04 returning to Long Marston for further warm storage.
 

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Noted 68029 at LO yesterday pm coupled to a TPE set which has apparently today gone to Long Marston. Unattached 68 and separate TP set round back of LO depot as well.
68029 was originally with set unbranded TP04,

Unattached was 68023 with unbranded set TP06, however it might go to Wolverton instead of Long Marston on next move.
But wait and see.

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UPDATE Tuesday 17th December 2024. 1820 Hours.
1. Tuesday 03rd December, from a video on YouTube at Worcester Shrub Hill, saw 68029 take unbranded set TP09, back to Longsight on the 5Q32 1534 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd for more attention.

However Tuesday 17th December 2024 witnessed at Longbridge today was.
1. 68023 taking unbranded set TP06 back to Long Marston for further storage, after being at Longsight approximately for 4 Months. On the 5Q94 0858 Longsight to Long Marston move.

2. Meanwhile witnessed at Northfield on
5Q32 1446 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd, going back to Longsight Tmd for further attention was unbranded set TP07,
TPO7 unbranded set, must be the most well maintained set, as this set has been returned to , Longsight many times. Compared to some of the other sets.

However at Long Marston we have.

Locomotives 68020 68022 68028 68030 68031 68032. Unbranded.

Sets
Longsight TP07 TP09 Unbranded
Wolverton TP01 TP10 Unbranded
Long Marston TP02 TP03 TP04 TP05 TP06
TP08 TP11 TP12 TP13 AND DT 12802 Unbranded.
 
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1446 5Q32 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd D witnessed at Barnt Green:

68019 with set TP02 Unbranded but rather jadded in places due to being in store over winter at Long Marston. returning to Longsight for maintenance.

Update Wednesday 05th February 202

Wolverton Centre Sidings set TP08, TP01
Longsight TP02 TP07
Long Marston 12602 DT
TP03 TPO4 TP05 TP06 TP09 TP10 TP11 TP12 TP13.
All Unbranded.

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1446 5Q32 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd D witnessed at Barnt Green:

68019 with set TP02 Unbranded but rather jadded in places due to being in store over winter at Long Marston. returning to Longsight for maintenance.

Update Wednesday 05th February 202

Wolverton Centre Sidings set TP08, TP01
Longsight TP02 TP07
Long Marston 12602 DT
TP03 TPO4 TP05 TP06 TP09 TP10 TP11 TP12 TP13.
All Unbranded.
Correction 12802 Unbranded is the spare DT at Long Marston.
 
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Does anyone know if either 68026 or 68027, moved to Leicester LIP in September I believe, have been accepted by Europhoenix yet? Last I heard there was some sort of paperwork glitch with them and they were split between Leicester LIP and Loughborough Brush awaiting work

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1. 5Q94 0857 Longsight Tmd to Long Marston was 68019 with set TP07 returned to Long Marston.

2. 5Q32 1442 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd was 68019 with Set TP05, returning to Longsight for some more servicing.
 
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