TfL National Rail Map - Liverpool Street

[DynamicSpirit]

Not sure how long this has been the case for, but I've just noticed the TfL national rail map (updated today for the new Overground line names) shows the Elizabeth line stopping at Moorgate but serving Liverpool Street only via an interchange. It's the map at https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/national-rail (with a link to the full PDF of the map at https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf). I assume the logic is that they don't want to show multiple stations along the line when it's actually stopping at a single station. And with that in mind, there's some sense in preferring Moorgate because that's the station the platforms are closest to, and which therefore has the shortest walk from the entrance.

It's an intriguing choice for how to show a rather complex set-up, and somewhat different design from the tube map (https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube) which shows the Elizabeth line stopping at a station that might be either Liverpool Street or Moorgate but not clear from the map which one.

I'm curious which way of showing it people think is better?

 

[zero]

The NR map is a bit misleading as it implies you need to go via the overground platforms to interchange. Perhaps a longer horizontal oval-shaped station could be drawn over the Crossrail line to show that you can use the Crossrail station to get between the tube stations (at least I think you can)

 

[DynamicSpirit]

to show that you can use the Crossrail station to get between the tube stations (at least I think you can)

Yes that's correct. If you exit from one end of the Elizabeth line platforms you find yourself in Moorgate station, and if you exit from the other end you find yourself (after quite a fair walk) in Liverpool Street tube station.

 

[YorksLad12]

It's a strange map full stop. If you look at it, there's an internal interchange between Waterloo, Waterloo East and Southwark (I don't remember that); the walking route between Waterloo and Southwark is longer than between Tower Hill and Fenchurch Street, I'm sure!

Respect to the poor designer(s) but... that map's doing a bit too much, I think.

 

[PaulJ]

It's a strange map full stop. If you look at it, there's an internal interchange between Waterloo, Waterloo East and Southwark (I don't remember that); the walking route between Waterloo and Southwark is longer than between Tower Hill and Fenchurch Street, I'm sure!

Respect to the poor designer(s) but... that map's doing a bit too much, I think.

I guess it depends where you are at the station. You can enter Southwark tube via the entrance at the end of platform D Waterloo East.

 

[YorksLad12]

I guess it depends where you are at the station. You can enter Southwark tube via the entrance at the end of platform D Waterloo East.

Ah... I've only ever used the retro-inspired main entrance/exit on The Cut. Internal interchange between Waterloo and Southwark seems odd though, given that they're adjacent stops on the Jubilee. But you could probably say the same about Moorgate-Liverpool Street (and we're back on topic).