Reasons for paper tickets being the only option, rather than e-tickets?

[Sonic1234]

The reality is that using PAYG for your local London bit is usually cheaper than buying a through ticket, especially if the tube is involved. For example, if I pick a few places in all directions around Central London within the Oyster area and compare the same Advance price level (the below use ticket code BUS as an example):

Worth checking through tickets though. For journeys in the NSE area often a through ticket is only around £2 more so better value than using Oyster, and there is one operator where the through Advances are actually cheaper than the ticket to/from London Terminals.

If you use Advances, they also give you protection in the case of delays on the local leg.

 

[redreni]

Worth checking through tickets though. For journeys in the NSE area often a through ticket is only around £2 more so better value than using Oyster, and there is one operator where the through Advances are actually cheaper than the ticket to/from London Terminals.

If you use Advances, they also give you protection in the case of delays on the local leg.

You'll certainly find the through tickets sold against an itinerary for the through journey helpful when pointing out the railway caused you to miss your booked train and that you are therefore entitled to travel on the next one.

Worth remembering some journeys attract delay repay at between 25% and 100%, which also applies to the cost of the local leg if you have through tickets.

 

[Haywain]

a through ticket is only around £2 more so better value than using Oyster,

Paying more is better value?

Worth remembering some journeys attract delay repay at between 25% and 100%, which also applies to the cost of the local leg if you have through tickets.

It applies to the whole journey for split tickets as well.

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You'll certainly find the through tickets sold against an itinerary for the through journey helpful when pointing out the railway caused you to miss your booked train and that you are therefore entitled to travel on the next one.

Corrected that for you.

 

[cool110]

Paying more is better value?

It is compared to paying even more separately on Oyster/contactless.

 

[Sonic1234]

Paying more is better value?

Sorry, I meant only a couple of pounds more than the London Terminals fare - which is less overall than a ticket to/from London + PAYG to/from the final destination

 

[BazingaTribe]

Yeah, it probably also saves on having to handle different tickets as well. For all of £2 I'd find that a bit more valuable myself.

 

[miklcct]

You'll certainly find the through tickets sold against an itinerary for the through journey helpful when pointing out the railway caused you to miss your booked train and that you are therefore entitled to travel on the next one.

Worth remembering some journeys attract delay repay at between 25% and 100%, which also applies to the cost of the local leg if you have through tickets.

If your local journey is reservable (e.g. St Pancras - East Croydon) and you use an Advance ticket, you are forced to take the exact train on your local journey even if there are many trains on your local line. Using Oyster / contactless avoids the problem.

 

[island]

If your local journey is reservable (e.g. St Pancras - East Croydon) and you use an Advance ticket, you are forced to take the exact train on your local journey even if there are many trains on your local line. Using Oyster / contactless avoids the problem.

I believe it is GTR policy not to enforce this on the "local" leg of long distance advances.

 

[miklcct]

I believe it is GTR policy not to enforce this on the "local" leg of long distance advances.

Not if the other leg is also a GTR service, for example, Kings Lynn to Kings Cross.

Other examples of reservable local trains in the Oyster area include Clapham Junction to Waterloo (in the Waterloo direction only), Shenfield - Liverpool Street, Watford Junction - Euston, Bromley South - Victoria, Orpington - London Bridge, Wembley Stadium - London Marylebone.

 

[redreni]

I believe it is GTR policy not to enforce this on the "local" leg of long distance advances.

Which is not to say people who don't know that aren't put off buying through tickets by the railway's apparent policy of ambiguity on whether and when these things will be enforced.

 

[Sonic1234]

I believe it is GTR policy not to enforce this on the "local" leg of long distance advances.

But what is does allow GTR to do is prevent you using an Advance ticket on certain services, as they set the quota to zero. They don't seem to allow long distance Advances before 0930 except on Mondays, Fridays and weekends.

Reservable Thameslink trains are nonsense, and means you get an extra ticket while we're being told using CCSTs is evil for the environment.