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Flexi season not available on some Scotrail journeys

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smsm1

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I'm wondering why there is no Flexiseason ticket available from Camelon to Stirling or Bridge of Allan and similar journeys whilst a season ticket is available. Going the other direction into Edinburgh or Glasgow the Flexiseason tickets are available.
 
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To the average traveller the name Flexipass or Flexiseason doesn't really matter. Having cheaper travel that is frequent, but not frequent enough for a weekly, monthly, or annual pass is what matters.

Why isn't it available on all flows which have a season ticket available, especially considering MSPs have been claiming they that would be available as part of dropping the off peak fares pilot? Or is this an issue of not considering people who don't commute into Edinburgh or Glasgow?
 

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Why isn't it available on all flows which have a season ticket available, especially considering MSPs have been claiming they that would be available as part of dropping the off peak fares pilot?
I believe it was only ever available on flows into Edinburgh and Glasgow. Beyond that you'd probably have to ask Scotrail and your MSP.
 

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To the average traveller the name Flexipass or Flexiseason doesn't really matter.
It does matter because the core features of the products are very different: the former is a carnet which means that it provides a fixed number of single journeys within the period of validity; the latter is a non-continuous season which permits unlimited travel each day on the relevant route on the selected days.
 

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It does matter because the core features of the products are very different: the former is a carnet which means that it provides a fixed number of single journeys within the period of validity; the latter is a non-continuous season which permits unlimited travel each day on the relevant route on the selected days.
Oh I hadn't realised the difference, thanks for pointing it out.
 

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I believe it was only ever available on flows into Edinburgh and Glasgow. Beyond that you'd probably have to ask Scotrail and your MSP.

Flexipasses are available on many more flows than that.

e.g. for certain flows into Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth, Stirling and Inverness.

Flexipass tickets are valid on all ScotRail, CrossCountry, and TransPennine Express services within Scotland. This includes over 1,350 journeys across 28 ScotRail routes

The ScotRail website has a tool to check if Flexipass is available on your route.

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I'm wondering why there is no Flexiseason ticket available from Camelon to Stirling or Bridge of Allan and similar journeys whilst a season ticket is available. Going the other direction into Edinburgh or Glasgow the Flexiseason tickets are available.

Flexipasses are available from Falkirk Grahamston/High to Dunblane (£55.90 for 12 journeys).

Unfortunately, the T&C prohibit break of journey.

It is worth noting that season tickets on flows priced by ScotRail are reduced by 20% from 28 September for a year.
 
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Flexipasses are available on many more flows than that.

e.g. for certain flows into Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth, Stirling and Inverness.
Originally I typed "major cities" and then changed it to "Edinburgh and Glasgow". I should have stuck with the original!
 

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For the one or two journeys a week a monthly season is unlikely to be worthwhile. If not time constrained the bus is notable in being cheaper especially in the peak.
 

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There is, or was, a general requirement that at least one of the stations on each flexi pass flow must be barriered.
 

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There is, or was, a general requirement that at least one of the stations on each flexi pass flow must be barriered.
Stirling has barriers. Camelon doesn't.

Falkirk to Dunblane has the Flexipass, yet no barriers at either station.

I wonder if there is a minimum distance? However even the short Slateford to Haymarket has the Flexipass.
 

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Falkirk to Dunblane has the Flexipass, yet no barriers at either station.

Falkirk High is allegedly barriered in the "peaks" - and yes I'm aware that the High is not on the Dunblane line.

However, that was probably enough to "tick the box" to get them implemented.

There is significant push back from certain elements within ScotRail to curtail and, even if possible, reverse the implementation of flexi passes. They are seen, and in fact are, a fare dodgers paradise - basically Satan's choice of ticket.

Conversely, they have their champions too - not least with the political side to the industry who are not so au fait with the nefarious shenanigans of a hard core subset of our travelling public.

Seemingly, the latest iteration of m-ticket flexis only allow you to activate one per day (which tbf only formalises the usual attempt to use one activated flexi for a return journey).
 
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