Help please: LED bathroom light fittings

[BanburyBlue]

Hi peeps,

we have a LED bathroom fitting that went bang the other night. I took it down and as per the photo, the LED bit has blown. Does any one know if you can replace the LED inserts, or do I need to buy a whole new light fitting?

I’ve done internet searches, but haven’t found anything. It doesn’t help that I’ve no idea what the LED insert are called, so searches come back with either light fittings or LED bulbs.

Thanks

 

[Blindtraveler]

I had one of these installed by my landlord to my previous Council rented home. They advised me that if it went it would need full replacement. The inserts cannot be changed and the existing fitting has been designed to be 100% recyclable if deposited in the electrical recycling point at your local refuse facility
And before anyone has a go at me for a blind person answering this question, I'm purely quoting what was in my user handbook, a PDF of which still lives on Google drive, despite no longer being with that landlord

 

[GalaxyDog]

Given the scorch mark seen I would just replace the whole fitting. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Ken X]

Had a look at the Argos website, as per the label (868/3979) and it says led is integral and not replaceable. Reviews say some do not last long and pop with scorch marks like yours. £38 if you wish to renew.

 

[DustyBin]

Hi peeps,

we have a LED bathroom fitting that went bang the other night. I took it down and as per the photo, the LED bit has blown. Does any one know if you can replace the LED inserts, or do I need to buy a whole new light fitting?

I’ve done internet searches, but haven’t found anything. It doesn’t help that I’ve no idea what the LED insert are called, so searches come back with either light fittings or LED bulbs.

Thanks

I’m guessing there are a number of small LEDs on the other side of the component? In other applications (i.e. not bathroom light fittings!) it’s called an LED module.

Technically I can’t see why it couldn’t be replaced should you manage to find a suitable replacement, but @Blindtraveler is correct; you’re better off replacing the fitting. It’s simply not worth the hassle, or worst case affecting the IP rating.

Edit:

I’m not sure if this is an older or newer version, but here are the instructions:


(Image shows LED module removal instructions).

 

[Belperpete]

Try doing a search on Amazon for
Folewr Magnet PCB Board LED Module 12W 18W 24W

These look to be the same. However, as Amazon give very little technical information (importantly the operating voltage), I would be VERY hesitant to use them. My recommendation would be to completely replace the unit, and preferably with a different type that isn't so prone to fail

This appears to be a case of a supplier appearing to be all green and planet friendly by offering a device where you can apparently replace the part (even making the instructions on how to do so available on their website). Except that the replacement part isn't actually available. Personally, I would be asking Argos for information about how to source the replacement part shown on the instructions they have published, and kicking up a fuss if they aren't able to help.

 

[BanburyBlue]

Thanks all - I did unscrew the LED in the hope of finding some more information on the underside, but all blank.

Just a tad frustrating, when the light fighting in question isn't the cheapest one you can find, and it failed after 16 months.

So new light fitting then.

 

[StripeyNick]

Unfortunately quite a few of the lights we sell (big blue box retailer) are built in LEDs meaning the whole fitting needs replacing when the LEDs blow.......not exactly sustainable but I guess the theory is they should last quite some time

 

[BanburyBlue]

Unfortunately quite a few of the lights we sell (big blue box retailer) are built in LEDs meaning the whole fitting needs replacing when the LEDs blow.......not exactly sustainable but I guess the theory is they should last quite some time

Yes, that what I thought. Buy a new LED light fitting and forget about it - didn't expect it to blow after 16 months!!

 

[lyndhurst25]

Thanks all - I did unscrew the LED in the hope of finding some more information on the underside, but all blank.

Just a tad frustrating, when the light fighting in question isn't the cheapest one you can find, and it failed after 16 months.

So new light fitting then.

Consumers Rights Act 2015. Not of satisfactory quality. A non-serviceable £38 light should not be failing after only 16 months domestic use. Argos should be giving you a replacement. Don’t let them fob you off with the “12 months manufacturer’s warranty” excuse. If they are selling garbage then it is their responsibility to compensate the customer.

 

[Belperpete]

Unfortunately quite a few of the lights we sell (big blue box retailer) are built in LEDs meaning the whole fitting needs replacing when the LEDs blow.......not exactly sustainable but I guess the theory is they should last quite some time

In this case, however, Argos include instructions on their website showing how to change the LED module. So a customer buying such a unit is entitled to state that they bought the unit on the understanding that it should be possible to replace the LED module. I therefore think it worthwhile asking Argos customer support where the advertised replacement modules can be obtained from, and kicking up a fuss if they are unable to help. Replacements should certainly be available only 16 months after purchase - ten years after might be a different matter.

 

[DelW]

Unfortunately quite a few of the lights we sell (big blue box retailer) are built in LEDs meaning the whole fitting needs replacing when the LEDs blow.......not exactly sustainable but I guess the theory is they should last quite some time

I've had two LED (non replaceable) outdoor PIR lights which failed at around 18-24 months. One was from Homebase and one from Argos, with similar brand names (something like Lucco and Luceco). When installing the second I turned the sensitivity right down so it only triggered when I was quite close so less frequently, but it didn't seem to help. I need to find another replacement before the dark evenings, but how do I avoid ending up with low quality Chinese tat? It seems even established retailers are having to compete with the junk that Amazon supplies, and quality goes first.

 

[Belperpete]

I've had two LED (non replaceable) outdoor PIR lights which failed at around 18-24 months. One was from Homebase and one from Argos, with similar brand names (something like Lucco and Luceco). When installing the second I turned the sensitivity right down so it only triggered when I was quite close so less frequently, but it didn't seem to help. I need to find another replacement before the dark evenings, but how do I avoid ending up with low quality Chinese tat? It seems even established retailers are having to compete with the junk that Amazon supplies, and quality goes first.

I used to have an external light that used standard light bulbs. Filament bulbs would last years in it, but the LED equivalents would only last a month or two at most. Don't know if it is the temperatures outside, or the humidity you get in an outdoor environment, or what, but LEDs don't seem to like the outdoors.